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Submitted by the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan (Australia), Jan 1, 2009 at 04:00

GI wrote:

"you're not 'wrangling' me - but I'm fascinated with how good at self-deception you seem to have become."

"..... thats what they say when they are being wrangled ."
Wrangle: : to dispute angrily or peevishly - maybe you are 'wrangling' then.

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GI wrote:
"and I say - neither did the early arabs or any other variety of muslim prior to its discovery (by Infidels ) in the 20th Century CE."

"i agree they did not fully know what ALLAH meant by the suns orbit. but the point here is the infidels may have discovered this fact recently."
Good - we both agree on these two points.

".....but ALLAH already declared it 1400 years ago. "
we do not agree on this point.

".......the focus here is al quran, not arabs."
though it goes without saying that arab Muslims believe what is in the Koran

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GI wrote:
"Does the fact that I am calm make you angry - because you have a fixed belief that only Muslims can be calm? I guess it would stick in your craw wouldn't it? I can take the point that if non-Muslims can actually experience inner peace then that would be a threat to your claim of Islamic religious hegemony.

"you're calm ? ok."
It's good to see you find it OK that others can experience peace without following your belief system and that there is no need for Muslims to insist they have a monopoly on peace.

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GI wrote:
>>yes - you are free to - and no places are out of bounds - unlike Mecca etc in Saudi for us Infidels"

"unlike all places, mecca isnt a tourist spot . its a pilgrimage site.
"
Right - barred to the lowly 'kaffir'. The point being you are free to go anywhere you like including pilgrimage sites in Europe if you liked.

"....i countered all your baseless claims about islam. if you are not still convinced of your misunderstanding, our previous comments do exist on daniel pipes. feel free to scroll thru.

Thank you for the invitation. You have not countered many points I have made. Others you have delivered facile arguments against. For example you've said nothing about my accusing Saudis (and by extension Muslims of hypocrisy and intolerance by not allowing the following of other faiths in their 'holy land'.
Yet Muslims are crying 'discrimination' in the West if people don't want a mosque built in their street. At least we do allow mosques in the first place. And do allow Muslims in to live. Though I must say, to be frank, many, many people are now questioning the wisdom of this policy.

>> GI wrote:
Saying anything wrong is NOT restricted to the Koran or anything else. I was not talking about the Koran. I am not spewing politics. I have just requoted what the head of the ISLAMIC Republic of Iran said about another state - and its people - when he said he would wipe them off the map.
I consider that genocide - and if you consider genocide 'wrong' then it is wrong. Agree?

".......unless temporary chronic amnesia is the case, one would not quote or requote something different from said topic. it is unclear what point you were trying to make here .if we were talking about the quran based on which you made a ludicrous llegation, then logic behooves you stick to that topic.
or perhaps you simply have an axe to grind".

No axe to grind. We were not specifically limiting ourselves to discussion of the Koran. You asked the question 'what have Muslims ever done or said that was wrong" - I gave you an obvious answer. No amnesia involved. And you still haven't answered - was it wrong for the Musli leader of the ISLAMIC republic of Iran to suggest a genocidal action as the soultion for the problem he perceives?

>>GI wrote:
I know - it would win him votes in the next election in the ISLAMIC Republic of Iran - and kudos around the Muslim world."

"hey at least he was talking bout attacking israel."
You think that's a good idea? The Hamas are currently having their own realistaions about that matter.

a land forcibly taken from its original inhabitats. maybe they have it coming. so i guess the guy wasnt all wrong. was he ?"

One question I've oftened asked is why don't the Egyptians, give Sinai to their fellow Muslim Palestinians. They're not doing anything with it. The Palestinians would get better soils, waterside blocks on the Red Sea, mountain view estates, a huge amount of land much bigger than all of israel. etc. The Israelis graciously gave back the Sinai Peninsula to Egypt after their 1967 skirmish. Nothing is being done with it. Why not that area rather than the forsaken strip of desert they presently feel attached to.

He was talking about not just a war crime but a crime against the UN Charter. Yes, he was completely wrong. As expected - in your contrived hatred against a people who have never done you or any other BanglaDeshis harm - ` you cannot see that. You almost have to hate Jews don't you? I mean what sort of Muslim would you be if you didn't? Who could you blame all the Muslim world's troubles on otherwise? I do not hate jews, I do not hate anybody. I don't need to. Hatred is an emotional burden and like jealousy - eats its own heart.

>> GI wrote:
Let's see - the Jews have been there for several thousand years and have always had it as their homeland - and lived under Romans - then alongside Christians until the mid 700's when marauding Muslim militias from the newly started Islamic religion arrived from what is now Sauddi Arabia. They claimed the Jewish Temple Mount and the surrounding area and built a mosque on it - stating that this was the 'furthest mosque' mentioned that Mohammed had flown to in one night from Arabia on the back of a winged donkey with the face of a woman. They then went on to slaughter hundreds of thosands of people in North Africa or force therm to convert from Coptic Christianity to Islam.

So, whose place was it again?

"the jews have been there under the will of GOD. it was a covenant. their land and nationality was conditional upon them following god's law. they failed because they transgressed. book of lamentations and the deuteronomy states this. the talmud talks about this in detail. so if they lived in this land based on god's covenant, it must also mean they can be kicked out by god if they failed to uphold the covenant"
and how many times did they break the covenant? 3 times? 4 tiimes ? 10 times ?
"
Again, God is not a legal clerk.
All Jews? Which promises? Or are you singling out individuals?
Does God forgive Jews too, if they broke a promise?

"their right on this land was based on god's contract with them. there was breach of contract. so there is no more claim over this land. other than this, there is no reason for the jewish claim over israel.
"

Not in the Koran - but there certainly is in other scriptures.


"..... this land may belong to whoever that lives there, but certainly not the jews
."
We disagree.

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GI wrote:
So let's turn it around. If I told you someone had flown to your place 1400 years ago on the back of a large flying mammal and claimed it was a holy shrine of that person - what would you think? Would you just agree and let me take over your place?

"....but the problem is, youre the one telling me this."
You put the question to me - 'what if someone walked into my house and took it over ?' What would I do?

"ALLAH did not confirm it in the quran. since HE did not, i suggest you try profesions other than land law."
What are you - a robot? A lot of things were left out of the Koran - do you need instructions on everything?
. In any case I am not a land law professional.

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GI wrote:
I think you should have said that ' you do not reason without considerable argument'.
And your arguments are based on faulty premises."

"......and it is the nature of the kafir to deem what is appropriate and what is faulty without considering hs own fallacy."
Does it say that in the Koran too? What is the Kaffir's fallacy?

"and what makes my premise faulty? that i believe in ALLAH and HIS revelation? "
One of the several is you take things that are metaphorical as literal. By definition that makes you a 'fundamentalist' - as bad as Christian or Hindu fundamentalists.

"that i believe in the unseen? "
I believe in unseen things too - what does that make me?

".......obviousy being a kafir you lack humility for which you fail to see that for the INFINITE, everything is possible."
That would include the possibility that the kaffir is much more aware of and in touch with reality than the Muslim, who generally likes to criticise others with no justification and blame others for his plight while at the same time thinking he had some insight into what we would call 'God.'

>> GI wrote:
I did not mention the many and various beliefs of people neither was I talking about evolution. A logical argument is often described as "rational" if it is logically valid. The basis of the argument needs to be an initial fact - not an initial belief or wish that something was something it is not.

".........if i told a man that did not see rainbows in his life, that huge bows existed that stretch from one end to the other and had several colors, would he consider it logical to not believe or would he consider that it logical to believe me ?"

The man could consider it a possibility. If however I told that same man there is a gigantic pink rabbit sitting in a depression on one of the moons of Saturn and it is controlling everyone's thoughts on Earth - so well that they could never detect that this is what is happening - would that man believe me? Should that man believe me?

"......what more so if he were a color blind man?"
and what if the man had never seen even a normal rabbit?

"if i went to a man that never saw deep sea life and told him that a fish exists which glows like a styreetlight and uses bait to eat other fish, would he find me logical?"

100 years ago people would think i was illogical if i mentioned soundwaves and light wavesto them. so what is logic?
Logic is used to deduce information based on facts to arrive at a new hypothesis. Hypotheses can be tested to see if the assumptions are correct.
Implementing hypotheses leads to new discoveries. Discoveries lead to more facts in which yet newer hypotheses can be deduced and so on. A cycle of continuous refinement and improvement. This leads to improvements in the quality of life in every field. You use it (or should use it) every day.


"it definitely isnt a fixed thing as many skeptics believe. "

I don't know many sceptics who believe that. Information changes incessantly.

"logic is determined by the familiarity of different laws or dynamics."
logic allows us to infer from previosuly known facts.

".....with every new thing we discover or learn, we add another law to our logic".

Yes - exactly so,we agree. Although I would use the term 'premise' rather than 'law'.

"....what is logic to you? "
see above

".......and what makes you think that other things must abide by your logic or else it simply isnt logical?"
Logic doesn't belong to me. It is not 'mine'. We can use logic - we don't own it. If you are trying to say if new facts come along that conflict with what I had previosly assumed to be 'fact' - do I change my opinion? Of course .

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GI wrote:
but why can't you extend that concept to 'he does' ? Why the dogma that yours is the ultimate revelation? You cannot see the absurdity of that can you?

"....we would. only if HE said it was possible. according to ALLAH , muhammad peace be upon him is the seal of the prophets. the last and final messenger. so with islam, the chain of revelation has ended. we have all we need. this is HIS choice that the great prophet is the last prophet. we simply obey."

OK, we disagree on this crucial point. I say that 'God', or Supreme Intelligence or whatever label you give to it is continuously interacting with what we call 'reality'. There have been many 'prophets' and there always will be. In a sense, we are all 'prophets'.

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GI wrote
No - no smokescreen at all - although it did inadvertently bring out the raging division amongst Muslims.
Rephrase what I wrote - say a Sunni Imam in Banglasdesh says a fatwa to kill me because I do not believe at all that Mohammed was a prophet and another Sunni - in Egypt say - says no fatwa - I don't have to be killed.Who is right? (I'll go with the Egyptian) .Both cannot be.
But both think they know what 'Allah' wants. So it is a totally arbitrary system. The blind leading the blind.

"youll receive a fatwa to be killed only if you do something tht deserves a killing accordin to law of ALLAH. "
as interpreted by Muslim human beings .

"...otherwise imams do not have the authority to make up laws arbitrarily based on local norms or personal likings. if some imams do make up fatwas without support of quran and sunnah, that imam is not islamic at all. so before they make up a fatwa, there has to be permission for it in the sources (quran and sunnah).

So are you indicating the various sects of Islam do not have contradictory fatwas? But there is the possibility that that can occur. So therefore the system has nothing to do with 'Allah', is not what is wanted - and is a totally artifical system.

"if fatwas are not in compliance with quran and sunnah, the imam is to be blamed. not islam."
OK, Imams can therefore be misleading their followers.

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GI wrote:
"so you are neither a Sunni nor a Shia. I have heard of the 73 sects of Islam - whch are you if you care to tell?

".......in essence, you can call me sunni. sunnis follow the tradition of the prophet. we do this since ALLAH says in the quran that one should obey ALLAH and HIS prophet. the shias dont adhere to the sunnah or traditions of the prophet and so can be called deviants."

But if a Shia was asked - they'd say the same thing about Sunnis - so... where does that leave things? and all the other dozens of sects - they all think they are right of course. If you had been born in Iran - I wonder whether you would be a Sunni..

" i use sunni to identify myself to you and others to clear the confusion
."
OK

>> GI wrote: that's fine for a mono-cultural, mono-religious society. But what if there was a Buddhist equivalent of the sharia - would you live under that? Government needs to be secular because otherwise the various religious self-interest groups would be vying for supremacy.

"ah the slippery notion of secularism. government feels it has to be secular since it holds all religion in equal status. but the study into the religions themselvs show their places. not all books claim that it is the last and final book meant for all humanity. they in fact clealrly suggest to wait for further instructions from god. if i fnally have the ultimate book, the previous ones become obsolete. so there and then ends the debate of which religion to follow. "

Here we go - a false premise. YOU say that - but what if others disagree with you? You might be 100% convinced you are right - but still, you might be wrong.
Others might think they have the newer , more improved 'revelation' again. And yet others might think the earlier one was the original and yours is a distortion. And yet others again may have no concept of any revelation and wonder what on earth you are going on about. I have an Afghani Sunni friend - a doctor who also agrees that separation of religion and state is a good thing. He has lived under several regimes - Afghanistan, Iran, Russia. That is his conclusion. Another bit of anecdotal evidence for you to consider.

Again -would you live nder the Buddhist equivalent of Sharia - if there was one?

"only in the quran does ALLAH say that the deen has been completed and is now meant for all people, instead of specific tribes or groups. no other book claims that."
The washing powder box in my laundry claims it gives the 'best and brightest wash' too. It is not based on fact - it's just a claim - to get me to buy that brand over another. People will say anything to try to influence others that their beliefs are correct. Mostly it's a security thing.

"islamic state takes into account these facts which a secular society turns a blind eye over.
....lets say now that i want to establish gospel laws or talmudic laws to buikld a society (altho thre are no shariah type of laws for them im just saying)
,"

OK

".... then if i fully and painstakingly follow every law from those books i will automaticcally become muslim."
No you won't! There would be no requirement to face mecca 5 times a day, or wash yourself a certain way, expect women to dress in a certain way, or incorporate Jinns and Genies and Buraqs or Faristas in what you held to be reality. None at all.

But if you just mean you would become one who has reconnected with their true nature - as a Buddhist would say, or that you are 'entering the Kingdom of Heaven' as a Christian might - that might not happen either if you're just following a bunch of rules. There is no guarantee.

"why? because ALLAH talks about muhammad and quran in those books too. and orders us to acceptthm when they come. see my point ?"
I see your pont but it's a fictitious claim that Mohammed is mentioned in the Bible as you seem to be saying. You would like to think that - but it is not true. Neither is Mohammed mentioned in the Upanishads or Gita or any Buddhist scripture.

"and on a diferent note, buddhism is not a religion. its more of a philosophy. it does not center around GOD. rathr on personal experiences. and as the rule is, true peace nirvana or bliss can never be acieved if to ALLAH one does not submit."

But Buddhists DO surrender to their original inner nature - which is pure and undefiled. That is the whole point! Leaving ignorance and arrogance behind,disentangling the mind from its impurities acheived by entanglement in 'samsara' . They also believe in unseen realties , in the Blessed realms of the Clear Light of the Buddhas etc. They hold their truths as much as you do yours.And like Muslims - they hold it with varying degrees of conviction.

"so it never was a case of many religions. religion always has been one."
and that certainly is not Islam. If I invent a new religion and call it 'Peace' does that mean it is necessarily peaceful - because it uses that word to self-describe? 'Islam' is a world religion - with all its dogmas and superstitions. The real 'religion is reconnection with the real Source - which is within us. All the great teachers have always said this. And they showed their followers how to re-connect. And it has nothing to do with external rules and regulations.

>> GI wrote That is not hypocritical . It ALLOWS its members to hold various religions and does not seek the dominance of any.

"this is a very slippery yet interesting topic. dont you see that a religion is not given its due if it is not allowed to dominate? what is religion? set of guidelines from ALLAH. yes?"

NO - that is wrong. Real 'religion - is the growing realisation that you've always been connected to this Source - and reconnecting to it - consciously.It has nothing to do with personal annihilation - but with merging your own consciousness with that Source. Awakening your true 'spiritual' nature (for want of a better term, couched as the word 'spiritual' is in so many negative connotations.) Call it self-actualisation - but nothing to do with the ego.

You can NEVER reconnect to it by merely following rules etc written in a book - no matter how good (or bad) that book is. The realisation involves a transformation of consciousness. This by necessity is an inner process - has nothing to do with words or even actions although some actions (wrong actions) will take you away from your inner goal.

" ok. look at the key word here :ALLAH. if what HE says does not dominate, harry truman certainly does not. see my reasoning ?"
Besides Truman not being alive - if 'Allah' is my original true nature - then 'he' doesn't need to 'say' anything. I would live from that understanding.

".....now the question is if indeed religion is to dominate, "
external religions do not need to nor should they 'dominate'

"then from seemingly all the thousans of them we have, which one ??"
the real one - which is not really religion at all - but which all religions are based on. And it is not Islam

>> GI wrote: It has arisen because of practicality. Imagine if the West was ruled by Christian fundamentalists - there'd be zero mosques in our cities.

"absolutely right you are. but fact is, the christians have no laws like the sharias"

Thank God. An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth was Mosaic law.

".like that of the muslims from quran. the message of christ was never final "
You would like to think that.

"and thus it never had a fully functional administrative machinery included in it."

He said "My kingdom is not of this world." . He was right - it is the kingdom of Soul.
Christ would never suggest stoning a woman to death for adultery. You might have heard Christ said - when confronted with a group of people who were about to do just that - 'let he who is without sin cast the first stone'. Nor would Christ have suggested whipping people or cutting off their lims for insignificant property crimes.

"......allow me to add, that according to sharia, different religious groups in it are allowed to build their places of worship."
But not in Saudi , right. And with only grudging accomodation to that precept in Iran etc.

>>GI wrote:
and with all due respect - we DO have an innate ability to recognise truth.

"yes we do. i did mention something about a universal awareness actually, in my last post. but it is not always apparent. we are confused with lesser forms of awareness that cloud our judgenment."
OK, good - we agree again......

"serial killers may know it is bad to kill people, but they do still. "
Unfortunately some are so truly sick that they don't.
pedophiles molest children. in doing so, most find gratification. so even if they are aware of this perverse state of being, they program themselves or are programmed to interpret thoe feelings as somehow good."

.... and again

>> GI wrote :Awareness IS NOT information.
Most people are not aware that they are aware. If I asked you for a second to stop whatever it is you are doing, drop everything - and be aware of your awareness, you might have a momentary insight into the fact that you are aware. But as soon as you drop it - you're back into your mind's thoughts and everything going on in your life and you mistake that for awareness. We do not need BUNJIL to tell it to us in a book. That source is within us. We need to recognise that there are far deeper parts to ourselves that are totally in harmony and that expanded harmonious awareness ('the Kingdom of Heaven' which Mohammed doesn't speak about) is within us.


"i dint say awareness was information."

I know - I made that statement.
" i said awareness is accentuated and made clearer with information. It can be - it also can become clouded by it.a sailor might develop a sixth sense for feeling land. but if he never came across an iceberg hed be mistakenly drawn to it and thus meet his end. or lets say other like hazards at sea. or lets say, i meet a woman that looks like florence nightingale and she gives me all the vibes of a caring person. little do i really know that she has developed this venus fly trap attitude to ensnare idiots like myself to do ALLAH knows what with me."

Yes certainly possible - without clarity of mind and emotions - we attribute qualities to people which they do not have -or fail to see qualities (good and bad) that they do have.

"...what i am basically trying to say here is that all is always not what it seems.
"
I agree and ultimately , absolutely nothing is.

".....so despite having all these distractions , where we feel it may be one thing but it becomes another, we cannot say we dont need guidance from ALLAH. yes universl awareness shows us the truth but it is a weak beacon."
The inner truth becomes the brightest beacon, brighter than any book. That's why some people glow.

" we need reassurance. with cold facts. id personally feel much better if i have them.that where the quran comes in from ALLAH."
scriptures and books are merely a guide , not the end in themselves - and should be pointing you to an internal truth.and it's not one size fits all. Whereas your inner truth or true potential or whatever name we give to it - is tailor made for you.

>> "animals live moment to moment. "
GI wrote:
not relevant
"but it is very relevant. to live moment to moment would mean to abide by different circumstances adopting entirely different ways every time".
Requiring .a practical yet spontaneous response to every unique situation.
Basically, it means seeing everything with a fresh pair of eyes. I still eat cornflakes with a spoon each morning - but I'm aware it's a brand new day, a brand new moment.

We all live from moment to moment - we are in existence from one moment to the next. This is how it is. Our lives are strings of 'moments' and or interpretation of our experiences within those 'moments'. We can only ever be conscious 'now'.

" as a man, this seems highly degrading since it denies the sophisticated natures of man."
Actually experiencing 'now', being present without any qualifications or beliefs or prejudices - requires and heightens our 'sophistication'. It requires our full participation. It is not degrading at all - in fact just the opposite.

".... man has a plan. he goes by a plan. he does things for purpose. nd so tempers his life accoring to it."
A man should have a plan. And it should be a good one that at the very least causes no harm to individuals around him/her.

"............the purpose that animals have is to survive."
I'm glad you didn't say - '......is for us to eat them'. Some also have a sense of fun and a degree of self awareness.

>>GI wrote:
wouldn't say struggle though initially the mind tries to wrestle control. It is a matter of focus - focus on illusion - that becomes true for you. Focus on truth the illusion (and struggle) dissolves.

"....ok let me make it simple. why would anyone bother ? if they did not know that it is a process of elevation?"
Elevation ? Of consciousness? Why they would bother is - it's fun -and a wonderful voyage of personal discovery. And because it is the only thing that really improves the way you experience life. And because you are operating from closer to your true potential, automatically you help others - in subtle and not so subtle way.

"......and truth would come after illusion dissolves? so illusion has a place as much as the truth as you say?"
That is not what was said - illusion or confusion or 'maya' as the Hindus would call it comes from the mind's involvment in the 'world'.

".....then tht truth is not ultimate truth since it is clouded by yt another constatnt. illusion."

Illusion is not constant. The analogy is clouds passin the face of the Sun in the sky.

"so truth is something that has illsions in it."
If you are experiencing truth - there is no illusion in it. If you are experiencing illusion chances are you are unaware of itm and also unaware of truth . But you may still be aware that truth exists beyond the illusion. i.e. that your current state is unaware.

"and it has them for a purpose. the illusion is as much as the truth as what u think is true for you."

I am not saying that at all.

" im not concerned here is what is true for me or you or any other guy. im referring to the ultimate truth. GOD. the only way to be at peace with him is to know him. day to day.minute by minute . second by second."
right and where is that God - where do you perceive anything from ? Of necessity it is within (but not limited to) your own consciousness. Consciousness is primary. It is not dependent on anything. Books are symbols - written in characters that make a meaning in your mind. You could give me a Bible or Koran or anything written in Urdu to me - it would be a bunch of meaningless scribbles to me. I could give you a Bible or Koran or Zendavesta written in German - which I could read - but would be meaningless to you. Consciousness and meaning are the primary things. Not words, not books, not rules.

"and HU knows the best course of action for us to take. in islam, you just dnt search for truth, TRUTH comes to you too with more eagerness."
You find truth and truth finds you.

" thats what was revealed to Muhammad. there is interaction. by following HU's commands we interact with HIM . thats the way HU, the TRUTH set for us. we dont have a choice."

OK, but I and many others do not limit that interaction to one particular interpretation - devised at one particular time in one particular place - for one particular group. In 10,000 years time, Islam will not exist, nor will probably Christianity or Buddhism in their present forms for that matter. People will understand that all these teachings reflect the basic truth - that of their true inner being, the source of consciousness and their innate potential.

>>GI wrote:
Therefore the closer you are to 'Allah' the less likely you are to harm others - because for one, you realise there is no 'outside' so what you are doing to the apparent 'outside'

"the TRUTH is infinitely more complex than that. ok the truth has to be infinite."

and yet at the same time , truth is very, very simple.

"....... thats why it is the ULTIMATE. the ULTIMATE, by the way is another attribute of ALLAH. in arabic it is AL AAKHIR. being at peace with god dosent mean necesarily that i live in blissful ignorance or cowish ignorance like a farm animal. "

I should hope not!!! Blissful consciousness of necessity requires supreme wakefulness and awareness - in fact - 'super' consciousness you could term it.

"bliss from truth also has to better you. improve you. make u do things you never did or thought you could do. it gives you reasons and tells you what to do."
OK

"part of enjoying this bliss is gloryfying the truth that brought you bliss in the first place. the gloryfying can take different forms. it can mean raising a family, or planting trees, or building hospitals,
conscious, right action. or destroying harmful things. so if a person takes it upon himself to be bad and do bad, there is purpose in getting rid of him as well."

Part of being aware is about seeing the present without judgement. There is definitely no subscript about judging people despite how bad things might appear to people's egos.

>> GI wrote:
you are actually doing directly to yourself. And secondly - you have no motivation to harm others because you see how we are all connected.

"......so you wont hve any motivation to harm a man that might harm your family? "
that is not what was said. It means the mind has lost the intention or even the capacity to rob, cheat or steal or malign other people. Protection of other people or self is another thing.

"truth has set it as such that in order to restore balance, one must be ready to harm the deserving individuals as well. fact. truth allows you to accept basic law easily."
I have no problem with that and indeed have ability to protect myself or other individuals. Experiencing truth does not require you to not protect yourself. However, personally, you have to be tolerant and not strike out at anything because it gets in your face. You have to allow for other people's ignorance.

>> GI wrote:
Thirdly - you have a conscious recognition of the beauty of life and the uniqueness of everyone you meet.
"....yes. cannibals are unique too, if u learn to accept their reasoning."
That is picking an extreme, a circumstance which is not in usual day to day life. Everything is unique. How cannibals think is just a phenomena. There is no beauty in it as far as I can see and their reasoning would not be accepted by a conscious individual as it is totally against instinctively held universal values for one thing.Then again, if you were one of those Argentinians 20 or so years ago who were forced to eat the dead bodies of their companions who died in a plane crash,
you might see the necessity of cannibalism. The point I was making is that if you are truly living in the moment you are consciously aware that each moment is totally unique, that this little bit of history which you are now creating has not happened before and never will again - and that you should do your best in interacting with it.

"everything is beautiful,"
Looked at from the right perspective - it could be. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. But would I see a 20 tonne truck 5 metres away, travelling at 100kph , headed straight for me as beautiful? I hardly think so.

." but not every beauty is good for you. swinging is a beautiful thing too but its not good. if i appreciated all kinds of beauty in life, id be in chaos. man is creature of order."

If you have no truth or beauty in life and just 'order' then you are not really living.then

>> Fourthly - you live consciously , moment to moment, with the insight that no dogma or beliefs that your mind clings to are 'right' for anyone else.

"i follow dogma. it is purposeful. like i said, animals live moment to moment. not joining the dots. not reading between the lines."
You do not have to follow a dogma. The purpose of dogma is to get you beyond dogma - to the direct realisation of truth.

>>

BTW which 'ayahs' did he say that in?"

"the hadith of the prophet : whoever knows himself, knows GOD."

Could you find that particular reference ? And why did he not focus on that. This is what Socrates said - and all teachers . That alone is THE truth.

"and this is what ALLAH says about the self in the quran :It is WE WHO created man, and WE know what dark suggestion his soul makes to him: for WE are nearer to him than his jugular vein."

I've wondered about this - who is this 'WE'


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4Reply to ikram ijazi [49 words]SandipAug 12, 2010 12:41162985
1HEY AK..LAHORE -10 TERRORISTS, BROAD DAYLIGHT, NO HOSTAGES, OPEN ROAD, ARMED CONVOY, TERRORISTS 0 POLICE 5 [181 words]Proud IndianMar 3, 2009 10:32151531
1Pak's 'duplicate' war on terror reimbursement claim scam unearthed by US Government Accountability Office. Fraudsters to the Core [358 words]Proud IndianFeb 27, 2009 05:04151276
2Negationism in Indian media [444 words]B.N.GururajFeb 18, 2009 04:59150713
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2DEAR READERS AFTER 79 DAYS, PAKISTANIS ADMIT THAT KASAB IS PAKISTANI & 26/11 PLOTTED FROM ITS SOIL!!! MANSOOR, AK47.. WHERE ARE YOU?? [1412 words]Proud IndianFeb 13, 2009 14:38150396
still here, ollu [60 words]Lt. General Ayyub KhanFeb 18, 2009 01:11150396
1Pakistan's Islamist Jehadis can bring Nuclear Weapons through sea..: Awake , Alert and Act now... [462 words]UmakantFeb 18, 2009 11:43150396
1Indian Links for Mumbai attacks?? We have already provided the links to Pakistanis.. And stop calling names like a Sissy!!! [196 words]Proud IndianFeb 27, 2009 05:54150396
1Local Support to Terrorism = Muslims helping in Jehad.. [123 words]Kallu BhaiFeb 27, 2009 12:17150396
Lt. Gen Gayub Khan from Punystan.. We are now an aircraft carrier building nation!!! [120 words]Proud IndianFeb 28, 2009 23:54150396
-- indian!! [222 words]Lt. General Ayyub KhanMar 2, 2009 01:38150396
Now dont be crybaby yourselves heres a joke to cheer you up.... And for the last time.. ATLEAST SEND ME THE PHOTOS !! [233 words]Proud IndianMar 3, 2009 01:49150396
2india supporting tamil tiger LTTE terrorists [4477 words]Lt. General Ayyub KhanMar 4, 2009 06:47150396
You Forgot the MEAT of the Joke!!!! =( [690 words]Lt. General Ayyub KhanMar 4, 2009 08:11150396
your proposal was rejected [16 words]Lt. General Ayyub KhanMar 5, 2009 06:08150396
Indians support LTTE? Thats laughable.... And Thanks for the Lecture on Strategic Importance of The Indian Ocean [69 words]Proud IndianMar 6, 2009 03:07150396
Laugh after you read this. india support for LTTE is not refutable. Are you in denial? [188 words]Lt. General Ayyub KhanMar 9, 2009 02:31150396
poor article [75 words]rafiApr 3, 2009 13:01150396
you want to bring blame to Indian Muslims [69 words]ChanduJul 16, 2010 07:09150396
lol [226 words]Lt. General Ayyub KhanJul 16, 2010 18:40150396
1Blind case [79 words]MansoorAug 5, 2010 05:46150396
Blame the victims? [189 words]LyndaDec 3, 2012 07:14150396
Umm al Momineen recruiting muslim women for suicide bombing against innocent civilians... [430 words]Free Muslim Women...Feb 4, 2009 19:59149832
6Islamists are working actively to Islamise India and turn it into World's Largest Islamic Country.. [262 words]SOSFeb 4, 2009 19:56149831
Hindu Terrorists [170 words]DonJan 31, 2009 18:44149615
Ram Sena another face of Religious extremism [99 words]MansoorFeb 4, 2009 06:29149615
1reply to don on 'hindu terrorists' [121 words]RudraFeb 5, 2009 09:04149615
To Rudra - "History" [272 words]DonFeb 10, 2009 15:49149615
talebanization if hindustan [154 words]Lt. General Ayyub KhanFeb 11, 2009 02:07149615
'harakat-Al-talebany fi al hindustan' [173 words]Lt. General Ayyub KhanFeb 11, 2009 02:17149615
1Christian rudeness and blatant misuse of secularism [268 words]JairamFeb 13, 2009 07:21149615
Mutalik, Leader of Ram Sena arrested along with his band of rowdies bfore Valentines Day!!! Mansoor / AK47 where are you?? [384 words]Proud IndianFeb 13, 2009 13:24149615
Still here sir....Still waiting for the end to the Christian/Muslim holocaust crisis in bharat-istan [91 words]Lt. General Ayyub KhanFeb 17, 2009 05:19149615
AK, SPARE YOUR CROCODILE TEARS!! THEY WILL COME IN HANDY AS THE TALIBAN TAKE OVER PAKISTAN!! THE NIGHTMARE BEGINS!!! [1271 words]Proud IndianFeb 18, 2009 04:12149615
Don's "Hindu Terrorists" [673 words]B.N.GururajFeb 19, 2009 09:49149615
India is run by minority communities [409 words]B.N.GururajFeb 24, 2009 22:03149615
HEY AK, NOW THE NAVY CHIEF JOINS IN THE CHARADE... SAYS KASAB & TERRORISTS DID NOT USE SEA ROUTE..DRAMA CONTINUES [262 words]Proud IndianMar 1, 2009 00:11149615
BE A MAN! [160 words]Lt. General Ayyub KhanMar 2, 2009 01:24149615
2india was better off under Muslim power [97 words]Lt. General Ayyub KhanMar 2, 2009 01:43149615
I am a man.. Question is... are you?? [211 words]Proud IndianMar 3, 2009 01:26149615
2Generl Ayyub Khan. Sorry to interrupt your pleasant dreams but it is time to wake up and smell the coffee. [1192 words]PlatoMar 3, 2009 05:42149615
1Mr.Plato, please don't expect a Kid who plays voilent video games to engage in a scholarly Debate.. [278 words]Proud IndianMar 4, 2009 02:41149615
-- indian!! [827 words]Lt. General Ayyub KhanMar 4, 2009 07:22149615
Hey AK,With all the MANPADS, F-22s, Professional Army etc etc.. Pakistan still kneels itself before the Taliban!!. [812 words]Proud IndianMar 6, 2009 03:48149615
To jairam [450 words]DonMar 7, 2009 16:24149615
To DON (USA) [12 words]KhatraApr 4, 2009 07:44149615
Can not achieve anything by killing [255 words]manojJul 1, 2009 18:34149615
we never knew pakistanis could be so blooded [153 words]sherinMay 5, 2010 00:53149615
yup [90 words]Lt. General Ayyub KhanMay 5, 2010 18:25149615
MR DON GET UP [181 words]JOSHIPALMay 14, 2010 13:07149615
Non-Violence cannot tackle Jehadi Terrorism : Dalai Lama [114 words]J.DayalJan 18, 2009 13:10148362
The Collapse of Indian Security System: Agenda For Action [2126 words]DMJan 18, 2009 09:50148347
Support the killings [258 words]MansoorJan 20, 2009 03:02148347
Well, "Mansoor", you finally spit out a truth - "Muslims cannot forgive", must have "revenge".. how sad.. [85 words]kmanJan 27, 2009 00:34148347
Mansoor, Your stupid islamic terrorists killed 52 of your brethen as well!! [208 words]Proud IndianJan 27, 2009 02:10148347
Banking on Human Resources? [206 words]MansoorJan 30, 2009 15:30148347
"Mansoor", you repeatedly contradict yourself. [59 words]kmanJan 30, 2009 22:44148347
1Dear Mansoor, It was the Fear of Americans that Made you join the war on terror!!! [356 words]Proud IndianFeb 5, 2009 07:26148347
Dear K Man, Not only does he contradicts himself, he also shows poor knowledge of Quran & world affairs [257 words]Proud IndianFeb 5, 2009 07:43148347
Pakistanis are dreaming to lead the Global Islamist Empire and Islamabad as Capital of Islamic Caliphate [468 words]TomJan 18, 2009 09:15148344
Sharjah doesnt need more coffee-makers [144 words]Lt. General Ayyub KhanFeb 11, 2009 02:27148344
Pakistan admits to presence of Terrorist Training Camps on its soil [275 words]AmaanJan 15, 2009 19:32148152
Strength and courage!! [184 words]MansoorJan 17, 2009 06:36148152
DearMansur , Hemant Karkare was in touch with Hassan Gafoor!! [501 words]Proud IndianJan 27, 2009 04:43148152
So now, the Terorist camps will be moved to another region ... [69 words]kmanJan 27, 2009 17:51148152
courage to accept! LOL [94 words]RudraFeb 5, 2009 12:18148152
1Part of Pakistan safe haven for Al Qaeda: Cheney [156 words]Pakistan means Islamist TerrorJan 15, 2009 04:40148093
Pakistan's fate [40 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanJan 15, 2009 21:27148093
Propaganda.. wasted!! [468 words]MansoorJan 17, 2009 05:05148093
You must be joking me [294 words]Lt. General Ayyub KhanFeb 2, 2009 07:27148093
Come on grow up!!! [88 words]RudraFeb 5, 2009 11:33148093
Jawab [161 words]Lt. General Ayyub KhanFeb 11, 2009 02:02148093
AL QAEDA CALLS UPON MUSLIMS TO WAGE JIHAD AGAINST ISRAEL [369 words]BRJan 14, 2009 03:35148000
Iranian Ayatullahs are taking help of Somali Pirates to supply Arms to Hamas Jehadis in Gaza.... [55 words]WarriorJan 13, 2009 12:43147928
45 Days After Mumbai Jehad....Aftermath of 26 / 11 ... [1639 words]TomJan 13, 2009 12:04147924
11Spineless and looting Indian politicians [1099 words]B.K. NambiarJan 12, 2009 00:47147808
Authenticity of figures about Indians' deposits with Swiss banks? [170 words]Kanan V. JaswalFeb 16, 2009 13:06147808
Still Asleep After Mumbai [76 words]Subash Ranjan BhattacharjeeApr 27, 2009 06:46147808
1Can our Best Non NATO ally "Pakistan" can help us in arresting these Terrorists hiding its border areas ?? [308 words]DatharJan 10, 2009 13:00147669
Pakistan can show its seriousness in war against Terror by taking few steps... [208 words]PeacemakerJan 10, 2009 12:46147665
Israel has faced 3700 missile attacks in last 7 yrs from Hamas.... [238 words]Y2KJan 10, 2009 12:29147662
Being politically incorrect [1127 words]ATJan 10, 2009 12:25147661
Jehadi Terrorist Groups operating from Bangladesh ( earlier known as East Pakistan) [91 words]AmanJan 10, 2009 11:54147656
Mumbai after attacks [223 words]manJan 9, 2009 01:00147530
Thanksgiving in the shape of rockets and bombs [531 words]PriyaJan 8, 2009 10:30147442
If tiny little Israel can welcome millions of Jewish refugees from Muslim Arab Countries , Why 57 Muslim Countries cannot accomodate 1.5 million muslims from Gaza ??? [87 words]KrishJan 9, 2009 03:14147442
Priyas comments [46 words]DanielJan 13, 2009 07:40147442
Conversations between Mumbai Jihadi Terrorists and and their Pakistani handlers [652 words]B.DuttJan 8, 2009 10:26147440
hmm [10 words]Lt. General Ayyub KhanJan 9, 2009 02:19147440
"fabricated"? You mean as is your "id"? [9 words]kmanJan 10, 2009 22:35147440
indian tooth fairy? [137 words]Lt. General Ayyub KhanJan 12, 2009 01:52147440
You must think I'm one of those toddlers being taught by HAMAS to blindly hate & believe anything they say [63 words]kmanJan 12, 2009 18:24147440
Lt. Gen. Ayub Khan:Tsk. Tsk. You can do better than that General! [734 words]PlatoJan 14, 2009 01:39147440
oye -- indian!! [356 words]Lt. General Ayyub KhanJan 15, 2009 01:41147440
Lt. General Ayyub Khan: The Mumbai massacre was a direct result of the preaching of PBUH [1463 words]PlatoJan 16, 2009 02:50147440
Attempts build confidence!! [269 words]MansoorJan 17, 2009 06:05147440
Mansoor you can save your life as well as soul by leaving Islam...I can help you in that noble work... [152 words]RahulJan 19, 2009 03:30147440
Keep Dreaming!! [115 words]MansoorJan 20, 2009 02:46147440
1Mansoor: Isn't Islamic logic great? Just as Hudaibiya was a great victory Pakistan also won all its wars with India [1899 words]PlatoJan 23, 2009 11:04147440
Plato - Sad History! [358 words]MansoorJan 24, 2009 02:29147440
Moderate Muslim Mujahid Mansoor...Just one question ? [190 words]PinkeshJan 28, 2009 03:12147440
Our Lt General Gayyub ( Invisible ) Khan still believes in Tooth Fairies [367 words]Proud IndianJan 28, 2009 03:23147440
Our "proud hindian" ... [2068 words]Lt. General Ayyub KhanJan 29, 2009 02:49147440
Soft target [236 words]MansoorJan 29, 2009 03:39147440
Mansoor: If the partition of India is history, so is the partition of Palestine [1303 words]MansoorJan 29, 2009 11:40147440
Please behave!! [11 words]MansoorJan 30, 2009 02:47147440
Mansoor: Apologies but the name mixup seems to be a Danielpipes error [77 words]PlatoJan 30, 2009 20:10147440
Plato you are my friend!!! [12 words]MansoorFeb 1, 2009 23:42147440
Lt General Gayub Khan.. Reality Check !!! here's my response.. [1958 words]Proud IndianFeb 5, 2009 06:40147440
1Oye --indian.......Reality check --- you are still asleep [5585 words]Lt. General Ayyub KhanFeb 6, 2009 04:55147440
Our FAKE Lt. General Gayub Khan.. Response Part 1 [2387 words]Proud IndianFeb 8, 2009 12:09147440
To our Lt. General Gayub Khan Sahib ...Response Part II [938 words]Proud IndianFeb 10, 2009 01:24147440
Unbelievable..... [6044 words]Lt. General Ayyub KhanFeb 10, 2009 08:28147440
Hard Facts hit harder, Gen Lt. AK -47 & STOP CONTRADICTING YOURSELF EVERY SINGLE TIME!!! [1254 words]Proud IndianFeb 11, 2009 02:48147440
Lieutenant General Ayyub: On teaching hate to your children and slavery in Islam [3979 words]PlatoFeb 12, 2009 20:52147440
the dalit saab is still in denial [3342 words]Lt. General Ayyub KhanFeb 13, 2009 05:14147440
Dalit Saab??? That's low coming from someone who is pained by caste system.. AK are you for real?? [822 words]Proud IndianFeb 14, 2009 02:39147440
for Mr. Plato [2666 words]Lt. General Ayyub KhanFeb 23, 2009 06:40147440
General Ayyub: In Islam slavery is no big deal for Muslims as they accept they are themselves slaves of Allah [7515 words]PlatoFeb 25, 2009 11:13147440
Neither the intellectual capacity nor the urge to understand what Mr Plato writes.. [267 words]Proud IndianFeb 28, 2009 01:28147440
Proud Indian: It is their education that leaves them intellectually challenged [190 words]PlatoFeb 28, 2009 19:52147440
-- indian!! [46 words]Lt. General Ayyub KhanMar 2, 2009 01:52147440
1General Ayyub Khan: Bring on your heavy artillery [349 words]PlatoMar 3, 2009 05:47147440
See Plato?? I told you that this puny armchair general AK 47 won't reply to you!!!! [43 words]Proud IndianMar 13, 2009 00:06147440
AK's Guns Silent.. as always.. Beats a hasty retreat....Mr Plato, Can you hear the silence?? [18 words]Proud IndianMar 23, 2009 02:21147440
Wonders never cease [137 words]SJoshOct 15, 2012 04:21147440
World blind to nurseries of terror [782 words]BRJan 8, 2009 04:24147409
Nuclearisation of Pakistan [400 words]JamesJan 8, 2009 02:53147408
Can India Emulate Israel's Action In Gaza? [764 words]BRJan 8, 2009 02:50147407
POST MUMBAI 9/11: INDIA PARALYZED BY PAKISTAN'S SUPERIORITY IN "BATTLE OF PERCEPTIONS" [3241 words]DSKJan 8, 2009 02:48147406
1ISI plans 'Islamic Republic of Pakistan' by 2020 in India [279 words]Rahul ChoudharyJan 8, 2009 02:10147401
Extremists have drawn up British Jew hit list [172 words]RamchandraJan 8, 2009 02:01147396
With all ex- & present politicians carting around Qurans, "stern" won't happen. [39 words]kmanJan 10, 2009 22:41147396
Extremists have drawn up Brit Jew hit list [12 words]mongrelJan 15, 2009 21:15147396
The Ummah Forum Ramchandra [132 words]Adam the Scot.Jan 17, 2009 15:29147396
1Jonathan Evans, the Director General of MI5, also said that "scores" of British Muslims continue to travel to terrorist training camps in Pakistan every year [264 words]NareshJan 8, 2009 01:58147394
India is heading for a bloody civil war [218 words]B.K. NambiarJan 7, 2009 02:23147241
Pakistan would joyfully enter into any civil war within India that involved their precious "bretheren" .. [104 words]kmanJan 8, 2009 00:10147241
India should open its Embassy in Jerusalem and strengthen the Indian Israelis relations... [55 words]CDJan 8, 2009 02:14147241
The prospect of civil war is disturbing [158 words]SidJan 8, 2009 10:33147241
Pakistan is Muslim - how is that not a threat? [64 words]kmanJan 8, 2009 20:28147241
Remember Little Innocent Moshe...and support Israeli Hasbara Efforts.... [20 words]KaushalJan 6, 2009 12:21147149
1What will happen if Pakistan's Islamic Nukes combine with Iranian Shihaab Missiles.. [2021 words]Vigilant GandhiJan 6, 2009 12:17147148
sorry indian [236 words]abhijitJan 6, 2009 10:41147142
Pakistan is at the center of Global concerns about Terrorism , Islamic Fundamentalism & Nuclear Proliferation [26 words]WW III has startedJan 4, 2009 04:25146827
Pakistan not to extradite Islamist Terror suspects [259 words]Pakistan's open support to Islamist Terrorism..Jan 4, 2009 03:50146823
bakwaas! [78 words]Lt. General Ayyub KhanJan 9, 2009 02:25146823
1Mumbai attack act of war: Salman Rushdie [236 words]Voice of a Moderate Muslim...Jan 4, 2009 00:39146801
there are no moderate muslims [36 words]btillyJan 5, 2009 19:07146801
They will end up slitting each other's throats [41 words]kmanJan 8, 2009 00:24146801
Go back to Sleep! [166 words]Donald OJan 3, 2009 20:15146782
Mumbai 26 / 11 Islamist Attacks carried out with the help of Pakistani State Help... [561 words]Say No to Terrorism..Jan 3, 2009 23:57146782
Learning from Israel would not be a good advice now!!! [617 words]MansoorJan 4, 2009 15:32146782
Israel is light to all nations as far as Freedom, Democracy and Counter Terrorism is concerned.. [112 words]God Bless IsraelJan 5, 2009 10:47146782
For how long??? [179 words]MansoorJan 6, 2009 00:01146782
1Mansoor the ... war monger [110 words]Adam the Scot.Jan 7, 2009 15:38146782
Ah, "Mansoor", another wonderful advertisement for Islam - convert or die infidels!!! [59 words]kmanJan 8, 2009 20:33146782
Don't hide your face!! [177 words]MansoorJan 9, 2009 02:05146782
Mansoor, my response to your response, but really you are just boring me now!! [213 words]Adam the Scot.Jan 10, 2009 17:21146782
You have the wrong site "Masood". cademy awards for acting are not given out here. [164 words]kmanJan 10, 2009 23:00146782
Terrorism & Security In South Asia: Likely Scenarios During 2009 [6329 words]SAAJan 13, 2009 12:00146782
1reply to mansoor [72 words]calebJan 25, 2009 05:10146782
Indian Muslims [101 words]savvy19Jan 3, 2009 08:41146729
Muslims in multicultural societies [83 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanJan 3, 2009 21:45146729
A Section of Indian Muslims are actively engaged in Terrorism.. [152 words]Zero Tolerance to Jehad....Jan 4, 2009 00:04146729
Deoband : Ideological Motivation to Islamist Jehadis... [612 words]G.SharmaJan 5, 2009 23:52146729
2Statistics of Increasing Muslim populations in England, France,Germant,Spain, Austria,Russia,Belgium,Holland,etc [156 words]Islamisation of Europe...Jan 2, 2009 13:38146662
1In the sea of Islamism , There are two Islands of Freedom...That is India and Israel...but both are in danger [289 words]Global Alliance Against Islamist Terrorism..Jan 3, 2009 04:15146662
We will multiply!! [176 words]MansoorJan 3, 2009 06:11146662
Stop Isamist Terror or be prepared to die... [405 words]End days for Pakistan...Jan 3, 2009 23:47146662
Mansoor: Meltdown? [20 words]PlatoJan 4, 2009 04:31146662
Response to 'We will multiply!!' [102 words]Logical thinkerJan 4, 2009 07:11146662
1It seems that our dear mansoor does not know that the Jews are his Allah favored people as per Q2:47 and the bonus for today from the hadith [310 words]dhimmi no moreJan 4, 2009 10:17146662
see your backyard and then say this [189 words]sanjay agarwalJan 4, 2009 13:33146662
Pakistan has nothing to lose so it will use its full potential to wage Jehad against West and India... [112 words]DisouzaJan 5, 2009 10:59146662
Few steps to defeat Islamism... [56 words]JohnJan 5, 2009 11:03146662
100 dogs will kill a Lion... [64 words]GandhiJan 5, 2009 11:17146662
No sense in debating with Jehadi Mansoor...Its best to alert Non Muslim Societies... [16 words]SagarJan 5, 2009 11:20146662
End days of Pakistan [83 words]Adam the Scot.Jan 7, 2009 16:02146662
Mumbai [11 words]Jon PurizhanskyJan 2, 2009 11:57146657
Taliban new dictum: Marry daughters to militants [533 words]Pakistan is main base of Al Qaeda and Talibani JehadisJan 3, 2009 00:53146657
Expose islamism and defeat it... [29 words]KritiJan 5, 2009 11:06146657
WHAT THE WORLD SHOULD HAVE LEARNED FROM MOMBAI, BUT HASN'T YET... [70 words]orange yonasonJan 2, 2009 02:45146631
Islamists rehearsal in India before Mega Terror attack in West.... [74 words]MintuJan 5, 2009 11:11146631
Sick son of Holtzbergs dies; 'little Moshe' now alone... [249 words]Civilised World stands with MosheJan 1, 2009 12:03146556
Worldwide solidarity [26 words]Larry B.Jan 1, 2009 23:56146556
what to do aobut islamists... [61 words]enoughofreligionJan 4, 2009 18:17146556
We stand with US and Israel...100 % and Committed... [41 words]IndianJan 5, 2009 11:14146556
I have still, yet, to hear one peep from "peaceful" or "moderate" Muslims ... [27 words]kmanDec 31, 2008 19:22146486
I am amazed!! [372 words]MansoorJan 1, 2009 06:34146486
That would be rather a break with history [169 words]JeffJan 1, 2009 16:26146486
misguided mansoor [192 words]Larry B.Jan 1, 2009 23:45146486
I think your patter is about a half century old, the communi9sts [948 words]kmanJan 2, 2009 00:51146486
Muhammad and our dear mansoor [294 words]dhimmi no moreJan 2, 2009 07:49146486
I don't think, "Jeff" that you read my comment closely enough. [17 words]kmanJan 2, 2009 21:00146486
Hats off !! [432 words]MansoorJan 3, 2009 05:07146486
Poor me [47 words]MariaJan 3, 2009 16:28146486
1Maria ....Wake up... [146 words]Great Britain is Islamising faster...Jan 4, 2009 00:35146486
Truth about Moderate Muslims.. [180 words]There is no moderate Islam....Wake up West....Jan 4, 2009 01:44146486
Hi Kman [36 words]JeffJan 4, 2009 11:33146486
I think you are correct ... [70 words]kmanJan 5, 2009 22:53146486
hi kman, response to your "hear one peep from peaceful Muslims" [22 words]Keith WilliamsJan 21, 2009 17:37146486
Indian radicals are just transplanted cancer cells that travel throughout world bloodstream. [73 words]kmanDec 31, 2008 19:15146485
Mumbai Residents have woken up.... [68 words]SunnyDec 31, 2008 12:44146453
Everyone wants to change the World... [318 words]Simple Truths from AustraliaJan 1, 2009 03:30146453
You come so close, and still don't get it ... [877 words]kmanJan 2, 2009 01:31146453
The Rabbi and his wife at Nariman House were sexually assaulted and their genitalia mutilated [281 words]Never Forgiven and Never Forgotten..Dec 31, 2008 12:09146446
Jihadi Terrorism--- 2008 & 2009: Part I: India - [4212 words]International Terrorism MonitorDec 31, 2008 11:37146440
Indians should stop thinking of any war.!!! [599 words]MansoorDec 31, 2008 04:47146402
Maybe you should turn out for Dallas Cowboys cheerleading squad. They're all blond, too. [62 words]kmanDec 31, 2008 19:02146402
Shame on me! My previous message was meant for Mr. "Mansoor". [88 words]kmanDec 31, 2008 19:47146402
The eyes of Muslim [36 words]There is no moderate Islam..Jan 1, 2009 11:59146402
1Stop warmongering! [286 words]AKJan 2, 2009 13:03146402
Mansoor will neither sober up nor learn truth [102 words]DevasahayamJan 2, 2009 14:13146402
Mansoor oh boy!!! [110 words]savvy19Jan 3, 2009 08:48146402
Political correctness [274 words]logical thinkerJan 4, 2009 07:40146402
New Year Resolution for all citizens of Civilised World... [118 words]Fight and defeat TerrorDec 31, 2008 02:53146395
1True voice of a real moderate muslim............Must read for US Policy Makers.. [327 words]SRDec 31, 2008 02:38146393
"Moderate Muslims" exist only as feeding gound for radicals. They are easily manipulated. [185 words]kmanDec 31, 2008 18:56146393
How Unprofessional We Can Be! [1894 words]South Asia AnalysisDec 30, 2008 10:44146293
Spotlight on the New Anti- Terror Laws [2756 words]Dr.G.M.Dec 30, 2008 10:43146292
Charting The Role Of United Nations In India's War On Terror [934 words]SGDec 30, 2008 10:41146291
Institutional Mechanism for Handling Terrorism and Insurgency [2030 words]Col. R.H.Dec 30, 2008 10:40146289
ISLAMIC EXTREMISM AND BANGLADESH ELECTION [1192 words]Moderate MuslimDec 30, 2008 10:38146288
We will survive [137 words]NairDec 30, 2008 08:30146274
Pashtuns Aren't Iraqis: Taliban's Message To Gen. Petraeus [1772 words]South Asia AnalysisDec 30, 2008 06:47146261
Main Imaam of Indian Muslims threaten to wage a jehad and massacre of non muslims in India.. [430 words]Militant Islam is talibanising India..Dec 29, 2008 10:57146143
I guess now the Hindus are understanding how Christians feel under militant Hindus [182 words]kmanDec 29, 2008 23:11146143
Apples and Oranges. [462 words]IanDec 30, 2008 17:24146143
Sorry you don't see the contradiction of your own words. [123 words]kmanDec 30, 2008 20:27146143
Your reasoning sounds like that of Gollum in Tolkiens "Lord of the Rings" trilogy. [63 words]kmanDec 30, 2008 20:31146143
Dear brother Kman.. [472 words]Thou shall not kill...Dec 31, 2008 12:35146143
Lets not attack a particular religion [189 words]AKDec 31, 2008 13:44146143
What>??? [320 words]IanJan 2, 2009 21:43146143
Childish prattle...... [199 words]IanJan 2, 2009 22:13146143
Anyone who hides a terrorist or weapons in his house is considered a terrorist [117 words]Jehadis gets support from Muslim Communities..Jan 4, 2009 03:24146143
My "rant" ... [313 words]kmanJan 4, 2009 20:17146143
I think your sources of "info" qualify more for your little adjective ... [387 words]kmanJan 4, 2009 20:37146143
reply to KMAN's article [225 words]Christians under militant hindusJan 6, 2009 08:43146143
Perhaps you should check your "facts" ... [228 words]kmanJan 6, 2009 20:06146143
KMAN [870 words]Proud IndianJan 29, 2009 05:10146143
"Proud Indian", your comment is full of holes [4203 words]kmanJan 30, 2009 15:35146143
Kman: Indian democracy is flawed but a democracy neverthless [130 words]PlatoJan 30, 2009 20:46146143
Hi Kman, we continue [4565 words]Poud IndianJan 31, 2009 08:09146143
KMAN, we continue [4565 words]Proud IndianJan 31, 2009 08:14146143
Ok, Proud Indian, you don't like long comments, here's a shorty ... [153 words]kmanJan 31, 2009 23:37146143
It hardly surprises me, "Plato", that your various persecuted do not flee to surrounding countries... [165 words]kmanJan 31, 2009 23:49146143
"Proud", I have taken a temporary hiatus. [363 words]kmanFeb 13, 2009 22:39146143
Wish you Safety and Peace kman!!! [25 words]Proud IndianFeb 16, 2009 00:25146143
It's too bad "Masood" and like Muslims don't comment up front here instead of burying their baloney in ancient postings [95 words]kmanDec 27, 2008 01:24145963
Mr. kman justice can stop terrorism [1119 words]MasoodDec 28, 2008 03:32145963
I am sorry for the many people all over the world who have lost loved ones - terribly. [287 words]kmanDec 29, 2008 16:00145963
Mr. kman, I forgot that Jesus does not allow anybody to say terrorists to those who kill innocent Muslims [78 words]MasoodDec 30, 2008 01:19145963
And who said Jesus or Joshua would forgive killers of innocent Muslims? [51 words]kmanDec 30, 2008 19:29145963
No tears for Muslims killed by Muslims [52 words]PlatoDec 30, 2008 20:50145963
Pakistan [356 words]IbrahimDec 31, 2008 05:09145963
And speaking of delusions [295 words]dhimmi no moreDec 31, 2008 09:59145963
Masood: Anecdotes don't add up to real statistics [271 words]PlatoJan 1, 2009 23:20145963
Humble request to all readers on this forum... [151 words]Spread the world of Truth..Dec 26, 2008 12:36145923
I do as much as I can, but ... [70 words]kmanDec 27, 2008 00:11145923
Foolish Drama and Sad Climax [638 words]MansoorDec 27, 2008 16:54145923
Nice try "Mansoor" ...Muslim from Pakistan...what else would we expect? [148 words]kmanDec 27, 2008 20:25145923
5Count down for destruction of Islamist Pakistan has begun with Sept 11... [274 words]Pakistan's days are numbered..Dec 29, 2008 11:45145923
Brainwashed [115 words]AKDec 29, 2008 12:20145923
Addressing to all specially the Indians !! Jehad is our lifeline!! [504 words]MansoorDec 30, 2008 00:37145923
1You embarrass yourself Mansoor [97 words]Maria NossanDec 30, 2008 11:33145923
1Typical Islamist cowardice... [377 words]IanDec 30, 2008 16:46145923
crazies are everywhere [157 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanDec 30, 2008 18:56145923
Let me laud you!! [357 words]MansoorDec 31, 2008 00:44145923
We are alive and kicking [98 words]IbrahimDec 31, 2008 05:16145923
Good joke!! [184 words]MansoorDec 31, 2008 05:45145923
You are correct [96 words]kmanDec 31, 2008 19:37145923
One little correction, Pakistanis depend on American government ... [30 words]kmanDec 31, 2008 19:41145923
Ah, yes the sweet sounds of the Islamic god - [17 words]kmanDec 31, 2008 20:00145923
1Nothing of meaning.... [446 words]IanJan 2, 2009 22:03145923
Still dreaming after losing 50% of your country [303 words]IbrahimJan 4, 2009 03:02145923
Reality [15 words]IndianNov 27, 2010 04:31145923
Mumbai is a perfect example of the escalation of Jihad [85 words]AnneDec 26, 2008 11:10145917
There is much to link Islam with Nazism, but worse. [135 words]kmanDec 27, 2008 00:19145917
Pakistan "A Headless State" [578 words]DeepakDec 27, 2008 08:38145917
How many are fed up with senseless killings and Jihad? response to Deepak's letter from Allah Hafiz [279 words]AnneDec 27, 2008 21:23145917
1Islam, Nazzisim, and worse - response to Kman [120 words]AnneDec 27, 2008 21:33145917
Baseless shouting [605 words]MansoorDec 28, 2008 15:55145917
The Muslims would have been next to be exterminated after the Nazis took out the Jews. [43 words]kmanDec 29, 2008 00:19145917
You give Paki's credit for victory over Russians - US technology given to Taliban did that.. [73 words]kmanDec 29, 2008 16:11145917
Still Asleep Afetr Mumbai [73 words]ThiaganDec 30, 2008 02:15145917
mashALLAH, brother [26 words]bayezidDec 30, 2008 06:23145917
I am hopeful, my eyes are glowing, my blood is warming and I can see the shivering bodies of the Kaafirs who are about to run fast to save their heads from strong boots of Muslim courageous Mujahids" [287 words]World should hear the voice of true muslim...Dec 30, 2008 06:35145917
kafir mansoor [27 words]btillyDec 30, 2008 12:23145917
inconsistency [278 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanDec 30, 2008 19:54145917
You are full of hatred! [102 words]IbrahimDec 31, 2008 05:24145917
ROTFL bangali Arabic [129 words]dhimmi no moreDec 31, 2008 10:07145917
You make same mistake I often make ... [69 words]kmanDec 31, 2008 19:53145917
who let the dogs out ............ [136 words]bayezidJan 1, 2009 05:49145917
only in your mind [261 words]bayezidJan 1, 2009 06:39145917
I think we understand, "bayezid", it's hard to keep track of which Islam u follow. [98 words]kmanJan 2, 2009 01:38145917
24Jehad speech by Maulana Masood Azhar ..Jehadi leader of Jaish e Mohammad.. [49 words]Wake up world..Jan 2, 2009 13:46145917
more Pakistani Bengali Arabic [190 words]dhimmi no moreJan 2, 2009 17:50145917
point explained [460 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanJan 2, 2009 21:36145917
the only thing kman understands [91 words]bayezidJan 4, 2009 06:40145917
point stressed. [642 words]bayezidJan 5, 2009 03:36145917
we owe Islam nothing [1970 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanJan 5, 2009 22:50145917
Pakistani Military Expert Zaid Hameed blaming 26 / 11 Terror Attacks in Mumbai on Israeli Zionists , American Neo cons and Hindus.. [50 words]Lies by pakistanis..Dec 25, 2008 11:56145859
Thank you for the URL. [43 words]kmanDec 26, 2008 00:20145859
Clash of the Crazies [277 words]Ashar MalikDec 24, 2008 15:37145816
You have some very good points ... [980 words]kmanDec 26, 2008 00:17145816
Al Qaeda & Taliban part of Pakistan's Muslim Tribals [75 words]Nuclear Terror Attack being Planned in Pakistan..Dec 24, 2008 12:30145805
Watch! The next Islamic attack will probably be made to look like Israel did it. [38 words]Alan AllenDec 24, 2008 01:39145768
Grapewine....Coming events in few months... [374 words]Islam is danger..Dec 25, 2008 11:01145768
Well said! [75 words]kmanDec 25, 2008 20:59145768
LeT draws well-educated Pakistani youngsters: Report.. [812 words]Well educatedDec 25, 2008 23:08145768
Russia. [65 words]kmanDec 27, 2008 00:27145768
I wrote the book on that subject [106 words]yuval Brandstetter MDDec 21, 2008 12:50145587
Taliban vowed to back the Pakistan Army in case of any Military Action by India against Terrorist Training camps in Pakistan..Just guess why ? [422 words]Never Trust Muslim....He will always betray Non MuslimsDec 23, 2008 08:49145587
Pakistani Army Experts threatens to send US Soldiers Bodybags home.. [133 words]Invade Pakistan and Take out Islamist Nukes..Dec 24, 2008 12:21145587
".... different rules of engagement" [86 words]kmanDec 26, 2008 00:28145587
Islamist Jehadi Terrorism badly tortured and raped innocent jewish victims before murdering them in Mumbai Chabad House... [409 words]Never Forgiven , Never Forgotten...26/11Dec 26, 2008 13:01145587
I think Jews are foolish to travel to some places. [122 words]kmanDec 27, 2008 00:37145587
pictorial account [41 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanDec 27, 2008 01:59145587
I checked your URL with pics...nice [95 words]kmanDec 27, 2008 20:38145587
Required Retaliation [102 words]Captain ChowdhuryDec 20, 2008 21:13145529
The Great Islamic Silence [680 words]ArlindaDec 20, 2008 15:49145518
Islam [122 words]DONVANDec 22, 2008 11:30145518
great western deception [202 words]bayezidDec 23, 2008 05:59145518
Great Islamist Apologist!! [121 words]Another InfidelDec 24, 2008 02:12145518
We blew it with the Korean War and its never been the same since. [70 words]kmanDec 24, 2008 03:12145518
Pakistani Defense Analyst Confesses that Pakistani Army helped and protected Osama Bin Laden, Taliban and Al Qaeda Leaders.. [74 words]Pakistan is breeding ground for TerrorismDec 24, 2008 11:37145518
insolent western demagogue [139 words]bayezidDec 25, 2008 04:07145518
You are right [59 words]ArlindaDec 25, 2008 17:07145518
bayezid, the fear of Islam [175 words]InfidelDec 25, 2008 19:36145518
You talk of "facts", and provide none. [133 words]kmanDec 26, 2008 00:42145518
Another vicitm of poor Muslim education [645 words]dhimmi no moreDec 26, 2008 15:25145518
I wish your were right about Russia [147 words]kmanDec 27, 2008 00:06145518
just ALLAH [439 words]bayezidDec 27, 2008 06:39145518
dhimmi no more : victim of jealousy [354 words]bayezidDec 27, 2008 14:45145518
According to our common prophet, Moses, "god" is "I AM" [402 words]kmanDec 27, 2008 22:35145518
And I have a comic book that says you "bayezid" are ... [835 words]kmanDec 27, 2008 23:29145518
Our dear bayezid and his bogus "proofs" [889 words]dhimmi no moreDec 28, 2008 09:02145518
1Wannabe arabs and the religion of the arabs and surat al-ikhlas [941 words]dhimmi no moreDec 28, 2008 10:03145518
Our dear bayezid and: How many muslims in the US? [33 words]dhimmi no moreDec 28, 2008 10:10145518
jesus called god AALAAH and moses ELOAHH [214 words]bayezidDec 29, 2008 04:42145518
in your comic book, bayezid is the guy pounding the brain back in your head [77 words]bayezidDec 29, 2008 06:48145518
yay [19 words]bayezidDec 29, 2008 07:11145518
1Whats in a name? [99 words]Larry B.Dec 29, 2008 12:16145518
You forget that is only one one hundredth of the population. [6 words]kmanDec 29, 2008 16:20145518
All you may have proved is what I have posted before ... [323 words]kmanDec 29, 2008 21:13145518
wow [133 words]bayezidDec 30, 2008 03:03145518
wannabe western hindus and semantics [806 words]bayezidDec 30, 2008 04:44145518
Our dear bayezid and poor Muslim education and teaching one tablighee at a time [656 words]dhimmi no moreDec 30, 2008 07:54145518
Our dear bayezid and his bogus "proofs" and how many muslims in the US and teaching one tablighee at a time [82 words]dhimmi no moreDec 30, 2008 08:06145518
True.. [27 words]donvanDec 30, 2008 09:30145518
Very good!! Now, let's move on to percentages and fractions. [84 words]kmanDec 30, 2008 19:59145518
i have also proved that you are a sore loser [212 words]bayezidDec 31, 2008 07:44145518
Our dear bayezid and poor Muslim education and teaching one tablighee at a time part trois [1953 words]dhimmi no moreDec 31, 2008 11:46145518
dhimmi and his antics [79 words]bayezidDec 31, 2008 14:14145518
i hate to see you bleed, but i love to see you scream [651 words]bayezidDec 31, 2008 15:02145518
I think you would have your hands full with Bambi. "bayezid". [40 words]kmanDec 31, 2008 20:15145518
you should learn to add and subtract first . [55 words]bayezidJan 1, 2009 06:16145518
Our dear bayezid and his bogus "proofs" and how many Muslims in ther US part trois [256 words]dhimmi no moreJan 1, 2009 10:45145518
Our dear bayezid and poor Muslim education and teaching one at a time part quatre [1512 words]dhimmi no moreJan 1, 2009 14:53145518
our dear dhimmi and his lack of excuses against islam [207 words]bayezidJan 3, 2009 10:53145518
dhimmi is ridiculous, isnt he? [1615 words]bayezidJan 3, 2009 12:24145518
More bogus evidence from our dear bayezid the wannabe Arab [454 words]dhimmi no moreJan 4, 2009 08:34145518
Our dear bayezid the victim of Arabian imperlialism and poor education [2121 words]dhimmi no moreJan 4, 2009 09:22145518
Cherry picking time and our dear bayezid is quoting the Bible [245 words]dhimmi no moreJan 4, 2009 15:21145518
Cherry picking time and our dear bayezid and his little foray in Hebrew [159 words]dhimmi no moreJan 4, 2009 15:31145518
Cherry picking time and our dear bayezid and the culture of the Arabs [270 words]dhimmi no moreJan 4, 2009 15:47145518
1ELOAH ..... AALAH .....ALLAH ........ same meaning different words [76 words]bayezidJan 7, 2009 00:46145518
19the words ALLAH and Muhammad pbuh in the vedas [292 words]bayezidJan 7, 2009 01:02145518
ELAH is the word used for ALLAH in the gospels [384 words]bayezidJan 7, 2009 01:42145518
our not so dear dhimmi, victim of cultural pollution and an ego bigger than his head [290 words]bayezidJan 7, 2009 02:05145518
more nuisance from dhimmi ... [125 words]bayezidJan 7, 2009 02:14145518
allah is hindu [9 words]btillyJan 8, 2009 15:05145518
Our dear bayezid has no clue about what is really a kitab muharaf but he tells us that he only speaks Arabic in Bangladesh! Go figure [653 words]dhimmi no moreJan 8, 2009 18:02145518
The vedas? Really? we are talking about your bogus word ELOAHH [53 words]dhimmi no moreJan 8, 2009 18:06145518
Our dear bayezid and his bogus "proofs" and how many Muslims in ther US part 100 [176 words]dhimmi no moreJan 8, 2009 18:12145518
Our dear bayezid and more bogus information [294 words]dhimmi no moreJan 8, 2009 18:43145518
More cherry picking and our dear bayezid [517 words]dhimmi no moreJan 8, 2009 19:27145518
Cherry picking time and Muhammad in the Vedas and Allah too [254 words]dhimmi no moreJan 9, 2009 07:55145518
Sentences? really?Oh so your bogus transliterations ELOAHH and hIO are sentences? [245 words]dhimmi no moreJan 9, 2009 08:09145518
More cherry picking and our dear bayezid and kuttub muharafa [462 words]dhimmi no moreJan 10, 2009 07:37145518
yeah ,the vedas, really !! lol. [94 words]bayezidJan 12, 2009 08:38145518
Our dear bayezid the proud product of a glorios madrassa [226 words]dhimmi no moreJan 13, 2009 18:59145518
1Hindu scripture not say Kill any body who does not Believe In God [141 words]Jay s KambleOct 4, 2010 05:45145518
Nonsense There is no such Vedas [77 words]AyogMay 13, 2013 05:17145518
naked lie [66 words]vishavjeet singhMar 30, 2014 17:23145518
Advice to bayezid from Bangladesh [166 words]PrashantApr 2, 2014 01:17145518
See The Real Radical Face of Our Lovely "Moderate Muslim Leader"...who was made champion of democracy by Politically correct media.. [286 words]Truth always wins...Dec 20, 2008 11:55145506
hamas regroups [209 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanDec 21, 2008 22:10145506
Sleeping Giant: WAKE UP [237 words]Builders of ZionDec 17, 2008 16:03145305
We all now realise that Terrorism is the biggest danger to World but how to differentiate between Militant Islam and Moderate Islam ( If it exists at all) ? [19 words]Lets make a plan to stop Islamist TerrorDec 17, 2008 04:56145275
I beg to differ [70 words]NevilleDec 17, 2008 19:58145275
battle plan [201 words]skydiverDec 19, 2008 04:10145275
Jehadis want to murder Moderate Muslim Candidate for Bangladeshi PM's Chair... [362 words]Worried NeighbourDec 20, 2008 11:17145275
Racial Profiling of Muslims and Monitoring all Muslim Mosques is must to expose them and caught them red handed.. [357 words]Zero Tolerance against Islamism..Dec 21, 2008 04:27145275
Bangladesh issue aftermath Mumbai attack [78 words]Captain ChowdhuryDec 22, 2008 03:09145275
US led NATO Forces along with India & Israel should launch Air & Sea Attacks against Jehadis disguised as Somali Pirates... [50 words]Somali Pirates are Islamist Jehadis..Dec 17, 2008 04:48145273
fed up with hearing what is going on [57 words]skydiverDec 16, 2008 15:54145235
You won't get "practical" answers from a population that is so far deluded... [91 words]kmanDec 16, 2008 23:04145235
So, identify and destroy the Enemy. [175 words]Jim WrightDec 16, 2008 11:52145228
Are you a veteran, Mr. Wright? [89 words]jennifer solisDec 18, 2008 02:09145228
that's the response the terrorist want [110 words]Keith WilliamsDec 23, 2008 01:04145228
More gems from our dear keith [340 words]dhimmi no moreDec 24, 2008 14:40145228
"Blowing off steam."--No way! [221 words]Jim WrightDec 25, 2008 16:11145228
regardring Mumbai Islamic Terrorist Attacks [530 words]Tess McNamara AustraliaDec 15, 2008 22:47145196
Mumbai - political correctness in U.S. will not allow attach to Islam. [108 words]kmanDec 16, 2008 23:15145196
Still asleep after mumbai [20 words]Dinesh KumarDec 25, 2008 22:53145196
training ground for terrorists and islamic terror; history of islam [588 words]DevDec 15, 2008 12:14145160
There is religion... and there is "religion" [70 words]HowardDec 15, 2008 11:06145158
10 step plan to stop Nuclear Holocaust in West... [472 words]Never Forgiven , Never Forgotten..Dec 15, 2008 23:17145158
Terrorist acts have nothing to do with religion [11 words]Keith WilliamsDec 17, 2008 14:56145158
Allah tells Muslims to terrorize his enemies and for this see Q8:60 [39 words]dhimmi no moreDec 18, 2008 07:50145158
WRONG! [94 words]kid berthaDec 18, 2008 15:36145158
answer to Islam = submission [5775 words]Keith WilliamsDec 19, 2008 03:29145158
No, Allah does not tell Muslims to terrorize innocent people [589 words]Keith WilliamsDec 19, 2008 04:08145158
islam is terror [8 words]btillyDec 19, 2008 10:00145158
"The Islam of Muhammad sure aint peaceful" [829 words]Lactantius JrDec 19, 2008 11:25145158
It seems that Allah says in the Qur'an that Muslims must terrorize his enemies. So much for the religion of peace [94 words]dhimmi no moreDec 20, 2008 07:35145158
8:60 - AN ODE TO TERROR [293 words]raja believerDec 20, 2008 13:41145158
The moon God? and Islam and the word submission in Arabic a language that you cannot read, speak or write [193 words]dhimmi no moreDec 20, 2008 14:55145158
The lazy ulama and the absurd [234 words]dhimmi no moreDec 20, 2008 15:30145158
Don't be a mouthpiece for them [215 words]Keith WilliamsDec 21, 2008 00:59145158
Muhammad (PBUH) was Victorious!!! [48 words]Keith WilliamsDec 21, 2008 02:23145158
Keith Williams: Mumbai was the result of Koran 60:4. Pakistani schools teach hatred of Hindus which this verse orders. [1566 words]PlatoDec 21, 2008 11:24145158
Completely accurate [78 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanDec 21, 2008 19:50145158
keith no righteous idols [20 words]btilly`Dec 21, 2008 20:23145158
Thanks [13 words]Keith WilliamsDec 21, 2008 23:21145158
Qur'an is representative of U.S. laws [3757 words]Keith WilliamsDec 22, 2008 02:50145158
repentance and forgiveness [81 words]Keith WilliamsDec 22, 2008 12:46145158
Islam was NOT the first to have laws of warfare [60 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanDec 22, 2008 18:30145158
Can we trust a Muslim's word on whether Islamist terrorists are obeying the Koran [232 words]JerryDec 22, 2008 19:05145158
reply to idols [16 words]Keith WilliamsDec 22, 2008 23:57145158
Appreciate what? That Allah says in the Qur'an that muslims must terrorize his enemies? [7 words]dhimmi no moreDec 23, 2008 07:13145158
More bogus claims from our dear keith [150 words]dhimmi no moreDec 23, 2008 07:28145158
It seems that our dear Keith is reading a different Qur'an [22 words]dhimmi no moreDec 23, 2008 07:42145158
reply to poll tax [93 words]Keith WilliamsDec 23, 2008 23:10145158
reply to dhimmi [22 words]Keith WilliamsDec 24, 2008 11:44145158
Contextomy part 5 [28 words]Keith WilliamsDec 24, 2008 11:51145158
Merry Christmas and Happy New Years [26 words]Keith WilliamsDec 24, 2008 11:59145158
Our dear Keith agrees wiht me that the Qur'an says that Muslims must terrorize the infidles [15 words]dhimmi no moreDec 24, 2008 14:19145158
1The word kuffar does not mean those that do not believe in Allah but it means those that do not believe in Muhammad [386 words]dhimmi no moreDec 24, 2008 16:26145158
What is really an idol?Islam and paganism and the ka3bba is no more than an idol and so is a copy of the Qur'an [145 words]dhimmi no moreDec 24, 2008 17:03145158
great job, keith [21 words]bayezidDec 25, 2008 05:51145158
Our dear Keith: So now you have nothing more to say [18 words]dhimmi no moreDec 25, 2008 07:23145158
So where would I find in the Qur'an "Islam denounces terrorism"? [36 words]dhimmi no moreDec 25, 2008 07:26145158
reply to dhimmi for being generous [14 words]Keith WilliamsDec 25, 2008 16:45145158
Islamic ... Islamic, Christians .... Christians [45 words]sTsDec 26, 2008 08:11145158
islam has laws of warfare never before seen [186 words]bayezidDec 26, 2008 09:33145158
i know !! you are so wronngg [238 words]bayezidDec 26, 2008 10:00145158
AQEEDAH vs ASSABIYYAH for you Mr. Keith [262 words]raja believerDec 26, 2008 13:19145158
again, read what was written Mr. Bayezid. [518 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanDec 26, 2008 21:59145158
So, "sTs", still burying your responses in ancient history on the forum where you get no response from anyone intelligent. [141 words]kmanDec 27, 2008 00:54145158
And what planet do you come from?? [105 words]kmanDec 27, 2008 01:02145158
I think the "god" you worship flew south a long time ago. [80 words]kmanDec 27, 2008 01:09145158
Keith Williams: Idols do not respond to us. Show us when Allah has responded to Muslim pleas [4228 words]PlatoDec 27, 2008 02:26145158
Bayezid- Heres the stark Naked Truth your Islamic Warriors showed to the world in Mumbai!!! [626 words]Proud IndianDec 27, 2008 05:20145158
"Islamic terrorism, its theological underpinnings, its mandate, and its antidote" [2277 words]Lactantius JrDec 27, 2008 06:44145158
"Ad Hominem and Oxymorons" [124 words]Lactantius JrDec 27, 2008 07:13145158
Why do you insist on using facts, logic, history, Muhammad himself, and all other proofs?? [12 words]kmanDec 27, 2008 23:47145158
Terror acts and commands are in the Bible [219 words]sTsDec 28, 2008 01:50145158
im the only one doing the reading here [313 words]bayezidDec 28, 2008 06:36145158
i certainly dont come from the black hole ... [157 words]bayezidDec 28, 2008 06:45145158
very trite [87 words]bayezidDec 28, 2008 07:05145158
dont you mean lie ? [244 words]syed bayezidDec 28, 2008 07:21145158
your answer will come soon enough [14 words]Keith WilliamsDec 28, 2008 23:52145158
hi Lactantius [71 words]Keith WilliamsDec 29, 2008 00:26145158
Oh, sTs, when will you earn to read? [29 words]kmanDec 29, 2008 00:50145158
reply to raja [150 words]Keith WilliamsDec 29, 2008 11:50145158
True Commandment From The Holy Bible is to Love as Jesus Christ Commands - Not as Men Who Do Not Believe [648 words]M. ToveyDec 29, 2008 14:04145158
Yes, I agree [30 words]Keith WilliamsDec 29, 2008 14:13145158
Contextomy part 6 [43 words]Keith WilliamsDec 29, 2008 14:17145158
Thank you brother [40 words]Keith WilliamsDec 29, 2008 14:27145158
Idols part 2 [94 words]Keith WilliamsDec 29, 2008 14:33145158
I'm surprised you ignore the billions of tortures committed by Islam... [6 words]kmanDec 29, 2008 16:15145158
You DO live in a "black hole". How else explain your blindness? [18 words]kmanDec 29, 2008 16:18145158
Ver sloppy reasoning "bayezid". [32 words]kmanDec 29, 2008 16:24145158
Again, sloppy...how convenient for Islam to ignore Islamic history. [41 words]kmanDec 29, 2008 16:37145158
Fight the good fight and Jesus Christ "The Prince of Peace" [417 words]Lactantius JrDec 29, 2008 19:16145158
You keep spouting off about "treachery" of one government or another ... [486 words]kmanDec 29, 2008 20:40145158
history [652 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanDec 29, 2008 20:52145158
Islam had just laws of warfare that were the first of their kind [39 words]Keith WilliamsDec 29, 2008 23:15145158
are you out of excuses ? [85 words]bayezidDec 30, 2008 02:31145158
muslims dont believe in torture [12 words]bayezidDec 30, 2008 02:41145158
i use it to match your sloppy understanding [36 words]bayezidDec 30, 2008 02:49145158
no the quran dosent tell you to commit atroccities, the devil does [26 words]bayezidDec 30, 2008 02:54145158
"The Islam of Muhammad sure aint peaceful and peaceloving, where will we find peace?" [2343 words]Lactantius JrDec 30, 2008 06:01145158
Keith Williams: What is wrong with idol worship?? [26 words]PlatoDec 30, 2008 06:38145158
1Our dear Keith agrees that Allah in the Qur'an demands that Muslims terrorize their enemies [86 words]dhimmi no moreDec 30, 2008 07:24145158
Islam [360 words]surjDec 30, 2008 19:23145158
You have no grip on any realistic history & keep showing that. [77 words]kmanDec 30, 2008 19:40145158
The Quran is the only thing you read. Have you even studied simple math? [10 words]kmanDec 30, 2008 19:51145158
i wont only if they stop being so treacherous [610 words]bayezidDec 31, 2008 02:26145158
An idol is [132 words]dhimmi no moreDec 31, 2008 06:25145158
Context or no context [36 words]dhimmi no moreDec 31, 2008 06:28145158
yes, history. [1108 words]bayezidDec 31, 2008 07:29145158
Dhimmi no more, are you scared to face the fact [115 words]Keith WilliamsDec 31, 2008 11:08145158
reply to what is wrong with idol worship [111 words]Keith WilliamsDec 31, 2008 11:24145158
I stand with you with the Prince of Peace [317 words]Keith WilliamsDec 31, 2008 12:06145158
word "peace" can be used as mindless mantra as did those of transindental medidtation [49 words]kmanDec 31, 2008 20:23145158
royal 'we'? [67 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanDec 31, 2008 22:04145158
you dont even know what simple math consists of ...... [11 words]bayezidJan 1, 2009 06:23145158
history is my fave topic, so watch out [38 words]bayezidJan 1, 2009 06:51145158
Ponounciation of Hebrew into English [13 words]sTsJan 1, 2009 07:53145158
check your bible [124 words]sTsJan 1, 2009 08:47145158
Our dear Keith agrees wiht me that the Qur'an says that Muslims must terrorize the infidles part 100 [192 words]dhimmi no moreJan 1, 2009 10:25145158
bayezid: The Koran contains some rules of war which are inhuman [993 words]PLATOJan 1, 2009 23:12145158
"Whatch out", "bayezid" ??? Will you stomp your little foot or... ?? [36 words]kmanJan 2, 2009 01:41145158
Song of Solomon is About the Relationship of Jesus Christ to His Church - A Quizical Inquiry from Someone Who Denies the Deity of Jesus Christ [143 words]M. ToveyJan 2, 2009 01:42145158
"sTs", when will you start addressing any but irrelevant little "irrelevancies"? [95 words]kmanJan 2, 2009 01:48145158
Terror is in the bible [542 words]sTsJan 2, 2009 02:01145158
Checked Again - The Truth is Still Contained in the WORD of the LORD, the Holy Bible as Revealed by Jesus Christ [365 words]M. ToveyJan 2, 2009 18:32145158
So, "sTs", you claim to have read Bible & didn't see that Jesus fulfilled all prophecy's of Moses ... [25 words]kmanJan 2, 2009 21:06145158
Let's just take the first of your mangled version of how Jesus "fulfilled" prophecies, "sTs" ... [168 words]kmanJan 2, 2009 21:21145158
Muhammad The unlearned [285 words]sTsJan 3, 2009 01:03145158
Our dear samer and muslim sources [747 words]dhimmi no moreJan 3, 2009 09:06145158
Muslims do not believe in torture? really? [50 words]dhimmi no moreJan 3, 2009 09:18145158
Holy Bible Provides the Context of the Verse in Solomon's Song 5:16 - It Refers to Jesus Christ Specifically and None Other. [82 words]M. ToveyJan 4, 2009 00:10145158
The unlearned is Muhammad [285 words]sTsJan 4, 2009 00:15145158
The Holy Bible Contains Commands of a Holy Almighty God - Obedience Required Through Jesus Christ [371 words]M. ToveyJan 4, 2009 01:03145158
bayezid: Muslim nations are witness to the fact that the Koran is a very poor guide for us [1718 words]PlatoJan 4, 2009 04:53145158
Keith Williams: I ask what is wrong with idol worship and you repeat Allah commands it? [403 words]PlatoJan 4, 2009 05:21145158
bayezid:What was Muhammad Bin Kasim retaliating against in India? [482 words]PlatoJan 4, 2009 05:39145158
islamic code of war never inhuman. [2054 words]bayezidJan 4, 2009 06:29145158
say kman, did you learn your tactics from dhimmi no more ? [21 words]bayezidJan 4, 2009 06:47145158
sTs, The Song of Solomon [85 words]InfidelJan 4, 2009 17:19145158
i urge you to put up or... oh well, you know the rest part 2 [488 words]Keith WilliamsJan 4, 2009 22:36145158
hi kman, here were my answers [99 words]Keith WilliamsJan 4, 2009 23:04145158
no muslims do not believe in torture. really. [88 words]bayezidJan 5, 2009 05:41145158
5Muhammad's name is in the Bible? really?Oh darn it it is Mukhammad [650 words]dhimmi no moreJan 5, 2009 07:31145158
God's commandments are clear [114 words]sTsJan 5, 2009 07:44145158
Holy Bible Tells The Truth - The Bretheren are the Hebrews [66 words]M. ToveyJan 5, 2009 10:14145158
reply to context or no context [39 words]Keith WilliamsJan 5, 2009 11:07145158
An Almighty God is Sovereign and Holy - If There is to be Righteousness - Then There Needs to be Justice [209 words]M. ToveyJan 5, 2009 17:46145158
Thank you for your response ...However, I know the real Islam. [427 words]kmanJan 5, 2009 22:45145158
"Respect", "bayezid" is something I reserve for those who have earned it. [447 words]kmanJan 6, 2009 00:12145158
The truth is in the Quran that you don't believe in [196 words]sTsJan 6, 2009 02:37145158
The Holy Bible Comes First - Is the Only Source of Truth According to Jesus Christ - Faith in Him Therefore Comes First [98 words]M. ToveyJan 6, 2009 18:11145158
Our dear bayezid and torture in islam and our dear bayezid does no agree with his Allah [191 words]dhimmi no moreJan 6, 2009 19:03145158
Islam and terrorism [82 words]dhimmi no moreJan 6, 2009 19:14145158
The Qur'an says that Muslims must terrorize the enemies of Allah context or no context [45 words]dhimmi no moreJan 6, 2009 19:29145158
bayezid: Read Quran and hadith before setting out Islamic laws of war Part I [2724 words]PLATOJan 6, 2009 21:26145158
The family honor is "WRONG" [132 words]sTsJan 7, 2009 00:34145158
muhammad bin qasim retaliated against the stubborn ,suprestitious attackers on the muslim community in india [492 words]bayezidJan 7, 2009 05:23145158
sTs [162 words]btillyJan 7, 2009 06:49145158
reply to Mr. kman, you are welcome [75 words]Keith WilliamsJan 7, 2009 11:08145158
Your pablum is getting to sound like a broken record. [87 words]kmanJan 8, 2009 00:19145158
thats very prudent of you [857 words]bayezidJan 8, 2009 05:29145158
bayezid: Read Quran and hadith before setting out Islamic laws of war Part II (Especially about Banu Quraiza) [3618 words]PlatoJan 8, 2009 06:03145158
All prophets brought grace, mercy, love [146 words]sTsJan 8, 2009 10:30145158
Who are the children of Israel? [132 words]sTsJan 8, 2009 11:00145158
WRONG [39 words]sTsJan 8, 2009 11:31145158
I think you & Masur, Keith, and all other Muslims better get together & get story staright. [80 words]kmanJan 8, 2009 18:22145158
Follow the quoted verses from the Christian Bible "Keith" (they leave a trail of truth & wisdom) [337 words]kmanJan 8, 2009 18:35145158
Here is some scriptural food for thought "bayezid"...It is a trail from Old Testament to Jesus. [331 words]kmanJan 8, 2009 18:40145158
Holy Bible is Not Book of Contradictions - Truth is Its Consistency Just as It is Consistent That Jesus Christ is Its Truth [63 words]M. ToveyJan 8, 2009 18:58145158
bayezid:Muhammad had a cute line in punishment [237 words]PlatoJan 9, 2009 02:01145158
For you "bayezid" ... [1928 words]kmanJan 9, 2009 03:15145158
contradiction is yours [66 words]sTsJan 10, 2009 00:41145158
bayezid: Read more about Khalid bin Walid, the Sword of Islam from Tabari [1558 words]PlatoJan 10, 2009 10:17145158
Actually "sTs", the Bible never mentions Islam. It didn't exist until Muhammad invented it... [19 words]kmanJan 10, 2009 23:09145158
I will follow these as they agree with al-qur'an al-kareem [50 words]Keith WilliamsJan 10, 2009 23:30145158
Almighty God and Omniscience -True ....However - Presentation of Previous Post has NO Basis of Fact [61 words]M. ToveyJan 11, 2009 00:41145158
nothing better than ALLAH's own words ..... here are a few [370 words]syed bayezidJan 11, 2009 01:24145158
for you kman [622 words]bayezidJan 11, 2009 02:06145158
MUhammad sallalahu alyihi wasallam feared ALLAH and let justice be done [288 words]bayezidJan 11, 2009 02:20145158
But, "Keith", those of Islam are the ones we are to persevere against ... [532 words]kmanJan 11, 2009 20:39145158
Quran is great book ...allows you to agree until your militant arm comes along. Then you switch sections of the book. [11 words]kmanJan 11, 2009 20:46145158
The flip side of Quran which you hold to when it is convenient "bayezid"... [62 words]kmanJan 11, 2009 20:56145158
Another failed attempt at explaining the confusing belief in "Allah"... [35 words]kmanJan 11, 2009 21:02145158
bayezid: If what was done to the killers was justified then Muhammad deserved the same for torturing and killing Kinana [514 words]PlatoJan 12, 2009 02:15145158
The Holy Bible Remains in Its Truth - No One Has Been Able To Take That Away in the Power of Jesus' Name [37 words]M. ToveyJan 12, 2009 10:21145158
There will come a time when you will belief in the ONE, the ONLY GOD there is [36 words]sTsJan 13, 2009 00:06145158
The Time to Believe in The One and Only Almighty God is Come and Gone - The Holy Bible Has Already Revealed Who He IS [108 words]M. ToveyJan 14, 2009 18:25145158
reply to kman, persevere against Muslims [1343 words]Keith WilliamsJan 21, 2009 16:29145158
Sorry,"Keith", I don't buy into the illusion you are trying to paint of Islam... [296 words]kmanJan 21, 2009 21:36145158
kman, there is no Islamic conspiracy, the majority of Muslims are peaceful [1072 words]Keith WilliamsJan 23, 2009 16:25145158
Keith,I don't think we have an argument on what you keep answering ... [1218 words]kmanJan 25, 2009 20:03145158
reply to kman answers to core problems [2036 words]Keith WilliamsFeb 15, 2009 22:24145158
In response to Plato [101 words]kahanMar 2, 2009 00:20145158
Kahan: With 400 verses out of 114 talking of Allah's torment of unbelievers what is the totality of the sense you get of the Koran. [339 words]PlatoMar 3, 2009 05:57145158
Question for K. Williams (after reading several of your comments) [32 words]Hebrew DaughterMar 25, 2009 06:35145158
To plato: Allah has already listened to muslims [135 words]sunnyMar 26, 2009 17:12145158
Answer for Hebrew Daughter [397 words]Keith WilliamsMar 27, 2009 01:46145158
Sunny: Our Father in Heaven and my father on earth. What a comparison! [243 words]PlatoMar 27, 2009 20:48145158
Plato agrees Worshiping idols or having Partners with Allah is Sin [266 words]sunnyMar 29, 2009 15:43145158
Sunny: You imagination is running wild! [1493 words]PlatoApr 1, 2009 07:56145158
Plato- you have no right to associate multiple partners with Allah! [393 words]sunnyApr 4, 2009 15:47145158
Sunny: Your post is a beautiful example of stultified thinking brought on by blind belief [1311 words]PlatoApr 5, 2009 04:43145158
jhj [9 words]mkNov 7, 2009 11:33145158
Muhammad in Bible [83 words]Harry JohnDec 10, 2010 00:21145158
Muhammad's name in Holy Bible [31 words]Harry JohnDec 13, 2010 02:11145158
im so sick of this.. allah, mohamed, islam, quran, who's the source? ok then! [80 words]asker of truth and mercyMay 15, 2013 23:37145158
Pakistan is exposed; the US needs to be exposed....? [1235 words]GMDec 15, 2008 04:43145139
While we are attacking lying nations - India one of worst. [196 words]kmanDec 16, 2008 23:34145139
We need Mr.Daniel Pipes as President or Defense Minister [30 words]Indian FriendDec 15, 2008 04:36145138
2 US sleuths died in attack on Taj hotel [341 words]War against Radical IslamDec 15, 2008 04:33145137
Why Pakistan should be declared Terrorist State ? [312 words]Save the civilised world from the threat of IslamDec 15, 2008 04:27145136
Why Pakistan should be declared Terrorist State ? [43 words]gpnemaJan 7, 2009 12:21145136
Muslim throwing shoes at US President Mr.George Bush.... [43 words]Suporter of USA...Dec 14, 2008 22:27145121
Mr. Jim Wright simple solution to bring solution [125 words]MasoodDec 22, 2008 04:21145121
We must prevent Nuclear Holocaust... [691 words]Global CitizenDec 14, 2008 22:21145119
RELEASE OF BLOCKBUSTERS [101 words]raja believerDec 14, 2008 14:52145089
Stockholm Syndrome [133 words]Jerry TerdimanDec 14, 2008 10:09145078
I agree [34 words]Joe six-packDec 13, 2008 21:29145058
no excuse for terror [366 words]Keith WilliamsDec 13, 2008 19:58145054
KEITH WILLIAMS- TERROR [8 words]btilly`Dec 14, 2008 22:27145054
that's great , Keith, now how about Fatwas? [429 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanDec 16, 2008 19:31145054
Your contextomy of this hadith has nothing to do with terrorism [77 words]Keith WilliamsDec 17, 2008 14:37145054
KEITH-MUHAMMAD LOVED TERROR [83 words]btillyDec 18, 2008 08:14145054
reply to fatwa question [144 words]Keith WilliamsDec 19, 2008 04:06145054
the illogic of fatwas [520 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanDec 19, 2008 21:48145054
most wanted [57 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanDec 20, 2008 21:14145054
my two cents [1020 words]Keith WilliamsDec 21, 2008 22:53145054
And my two cents too [99 words]dhimmi no moreDec 23, 2008 07:37145054
Islam does not justify the killing of innocent life [55 words]Keith WilliamsDec 24, 2008 12:05145054
another two cents and arabic romanization [564 words]Keith WilliamsDec 24, 2008 16:09145054
Terrorism and Islam [41 words]dhimmi no moreDec 25, 2008 07:21145054
Our dear Keith and the teh marbouta ain't a ha and you need to stick to urdu [182 words]dhimmi no moreDec 25, 2008 07:48145054
tāʾ marbūṭa part 4 or 5 or 6 or .... [137 words]Keith WilliamsDec 29, 2008 14:10145054
Islam does not justify the killing of innocent life part 2 [54 words]Keith WilliamsDec 29, 2008 14:21145054
Our dear Keith and the teh marbouta and the saga continues [63 words]dhimmi no moreDec 30, 2008 07:16145054
You still did not answer my question [43 words]dhimmi no moreDec 31, 2008 06:31145054
tāʾ marbūṭa saga continues part 2 [171 words]Keith WilliamsDec 31, 2008 09:16145054
The teh marbouta and the bogus Arabic ayah (sic) and surah (sic) and the saga continues [160 words]dhimmi no moreJan 1, 2009 09:43145054
dhimmi no more and the un-holy crusade part 2 [400 words]Keith WilliamsJan 5, 2009 11:37145054
Islamophobia? Really? [71 words]dhimmi no moreJan 6, 2009 19:20145054
Our dear keith and my wish for the new year [61 words]dhimmi no moreJan 6, 2009 20:33145054
Well, "Keith", you say you give the "answer", and don't. [59 words]kmanJan 21, 2009 22:44145054
reply to kman, i am a little confused [74 words]Keith WilliamsJan 23, 2009 18:47145054
what to do about it [45 words]skydiverDec 13, 2008 12:43145040
Nothing New [64 words]DenDec 13, 2008 09:47145033
Why India should not attack few so called Terrorist Training Camps in Pakistan ? [487 words]Long Live DemocracyDec 13, 2008 08:24145030
Jamaat transferred money out of most bank accounts [1158 words]Warrior against TerrorismDec 14, 2008 21:52145030
Islamic Pakistan should be declared rogue and terrorist state. It form axis of evil along with Saudi Arabia and Syria [164 words]Save The World from the Danger of JehadDec 13, 2008 08:04145029
in my opinion [109 words]skydiverDec 13, 2008 03:41145021
Gujarat riot [55 words]abu ahsanDec 12, 2008 19:45145001
Our dear the father of better (sic) and Muslim logic [193 words]dhimmi no moreDec 13, 2008 20:06145001
Gujrat Riots [53 words]Investigate IslamDec 17, 2008 04:23145001
What It Will Take [78 words]KatDec 12, 2008 16:57144990
KAT [28 words]btilly`Dec 12, 2008 21:05144990
Muslims taking over non muslim countries and societies slowly but surely....Wake up West...and Act now... [408 words]Wake up West...Wake up Europe...Wake up USA....Dec 17, 2008 04:40144990
The Death of Language and Lives. [419 words]Maura CollinsDec 12, 2008 10:05144973
Epilog to "Naming the Enemy" [389 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Prof. Paul EidelbergDec 12, 2008 07:50144965
Violence manifests itself everywhere [182 words]Cheryl MavrikosDec 11, 2008 13:45144920
Still Asleep [149 words]Kenny KomodoDec 11, 2008 11:21144914
Why China is indirectly supporting Jehadi Terrorists of Pakistan..? [240 words]FreedomDec 11, 2008 08:50144905
China Doesn't Want to Help Prevent Terroristic Harm to India or the US. Isn't That Clear? [173 words]Sofa SogoodDec 13, 2008 02:11144905
China and IslamicTerrorism [139 words]Peter HerzDec 14, 2008 13:50144905
Excellent Article [84 words]sunneyDec 11, 2008 08:18144901
Has the sleeping giant become a slouching sloth? [74 words]Jonathan SandersDec 11, 2008 08:11144899
Jamat UD Dawa and Lashkar e Toiba not worried about the ban by UNO Security Council.. [817 words]FreedomDec 11, 2008 07:04144893
Hindus and Islam [399 words]NariDec 11, 2008 06:37144891
Right Nari [217 words]SaigonDec 11, 2008 23:41144891
Root of the Problem [95 words]singhDec 12, 2008 11:55144891
hindus have strayed [268 words]bayezidDec 13, 2008 03:32144891
Conversions & Onslaught [132 words]raja believerDec 13, 2008 10:36144891
bayezid [58 words]btilly`Dec 13, 2008 18:36144891
saying something is wrong with Islam does not at all mean something is wrong with the person who says it [422 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanDec 13, 2008 21:18144891
ALLAH IS SHIFTING LOYALTIES. [644 words]raja believerDec 14, 2008 13:20144891
tell yourself what you wrote and you might actually believe in it ...... [408 words]bayezidDec 15, 2008 09:20144891
according to who? [298 words]bayezidDec 15, 2008 09:53144891
For Saigon and Nari on Hindus [146 words]Peter HerzDec 15, 2008 15:04144891
Muslims are asleep , thinking they are awake [869 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanDec 15, 2008 20:19144891
but Islam is NOT the latest.... [142 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanDec 15, 2008 20:24144891
Response to Nari and Pete - Ground Facts Hindu Civilisation's Response to Islam and Lessons for Western World [458 words]SinghaDec 16, 2008 08:23144891
you really think so ? [199 words]bayezidDec 16, 2008 08:47144891
god's will or human will [132 words]G.VishvasDec 16, 2008 10:04144891
MUSLIMS: TRUE VEDANTISTS WITH VENDETTA [364 words]raja believerDec 17, 2008 06:01144891
but it is the latest !! [376 words]bayezidDec 17, 2008 08:10144891
how would you know [430 words]bayezidDec 17, 2008 08:33144891
Grand Infidel or Mr Bond Infidel whatever [266 words]BilawalDec 17, 2008 08:41144891
Mr. Bayezid continues to offer opinions. [399 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanDec 17, 2008 20:54144891
Meher Baba said 'don't worry - be happy'. Not too difficult for you is it? [795 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanDec 17, 2008 21:29144891
libraries categorise their books into fiction and non-fiction [42 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanDec 17, 2008 21:33144891
if its GOD's vendetta against you, shouldn't you be on your knees? [324 words]bayezidDec 18, 2008 07:27144891
GOD's will [182 words]syed bayezidDec 18, 2008 07:27144891
the cause of their anger [205 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanDec 18, 2008 19:04144891
syed bayezid, meaning of Islam [29 words]InfidelDec 18, 2008 20:00144891
you forgot to categorize your self, in psychology [122 words]bayezidDec 19, 2008 00:46144891
ideal vs. real [167 words]G.VishvasDec 19, 2008 03:55144891
hardy har har [365 words]bayezidDec 19, 2008 05:36144891
MOHAMAD IS HINDU GOD KHALKI [678 words]raja believerDec 19, 2008 05:51144891
bayezid - the disillusioned [368 words]Mulla SadraDec 19, 2008 15:28144891
bayezid, circle of the earth [64 words]InfidelDec 19, 2008 18:07144891
bayezid, circle of earth no.2 [185 words]InfidelDec 19, 2008 19:06144891
nervous laughter [886 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanDec 19, 2008 20:17144891
bayezid: Allah's challenge to imitate the Koran is silly to the point of being ridiculous [1609 words]PlatoDec 19, 2008 23:19144891
bayezid: Read 2:106, 8:65-66, 16:101 and 13:39 for some Koranic contradictions [2272 words]PlatoDec 20, 2008 01:58144891
bayezid: The Koran tells us it also misguides us [401 words]PlatoDec 20, 2008 02:02144891
if what you say is... [47 words]KarlDec 20, 2008 04:29144891
really?? [80 words]KarlDec 20, 2008 04:50144891
the Koran isn't exactly a fountain of scientific knowledge - why pretend that it is??? [725 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanDec 20, 2008 05:52144891
Tech Savvy Muslims waging Internet Jehad using Facebook as a platform to recruit & train more Terrorists in West.. [280 words]Vigilant IndianDec 20, 2008 11:10144891
pipe dreams [85 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanDec 20, 2008 19:34144891
Ignorance is rife [56 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanDec 20, 2008 23:06144891
think again [95 words]bayezidDec 21, 2008 05:45144891
persistence is a virtue. in your case, it is a vice. [564 words]bayezidDec 21, 2008 06:37144891
ALLAHU AKBAR [115 words]bayezidDec 21, 2008 07:04144891
wordplay: the last resort of disbelief [199 words]bayezidDec 21, 2008 07:17144891
my bad. i should have put more gusto in it while laughing [557 words]bayezidDec 21, 2008 07:43144891
right on [77 words]bayezidDec 21, 2008 07:51144891
on the contrary [407 words]bayezidDec 21, 2008 08:09144891
i did. it's just that you didn't [875 words]bayezidDec 21, 2008 08:57144891
oh i see ..... not ! [38 words]bayezidDec 21, 2008 09:01144891
huh ? [56 words]bayezidDec 21, 2008 09:05144891
Plato, best article ever [13 words]InfidelDec 21, 2008 14:42144891
bayezid, words of the Qur'an [63 words]InfidelDec 21, 2008 19:29144891
For Singha [330 words]Peter HerzDec 21, 2008 20:07144891
you should prove the points made are incorrect [1614 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanDec 21, 2008 21:51144891
The Religion of Peace Strikes Again [126 words]ArlindaDec 22, 2008 02:30144891
Mr btilly Bible tells different story than your Res. Dec. 13 18:36 [22 words]MasoodDec 22, 2008 03:46144891
excellent! and your point is ? [22 words]bayezidDec 23, 2008 01:26144891
laa dee dah [136 words]bayezidDec 23, 2008 01:56144891
i think i already did [693 words]bayezidDec 23, 2008 02:36144891
THE MORAL OF THE STORY--called Quran [549 words]raja believerDec 23, 2008 03:46144891
almost forgot...... again [666 words]bayezidDec 23, 2008 05:39144891
bayezid: Does Allah know whether He is coming or going? [1986 words]PlatoDec 23, 2008 11:10144891
bayezid: You may be amused but I am bemused [2587 words]PlatoDec 23, 2008 11:14144891
bayezid: Saying what is in the Koran is not proof that what is said is right [768 words]PlatoDec 23, 2008 11:20144891
bayezid: Koran a book of everyday signs and nonsense science [267 words]PlatoDec 23, 2008 11:26144891
bayezid: Look up the meaning of logic before using the word [1834 words]PlatoDec 23, 2008 11:31144891
bayezid: Tell us what does Allah do guide or misguide?? [867 words]PlatoDec 23, 2008 11:37144891
bayezid: Self assertion is not proof [990 words]PlatoDec 23, 2008 11:42144891
Hindu Civilisation is Ally [310 words]SinghaDec 23, 2008 11:47144891
as if you would know [218 words]bayezidDec 23, 2008 23:15144891
a Jekyll and Hyde religion [346 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanDec 24, 2008 00:28144891
......best we stick to the facts [1763 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanDec 24, 2008 03:14144891
moral in a gist [869 words]bayezidDec 24, 2008 08:46144891
good for you [698 words]bayezidDec 24, 2008 09:15144891
no wordplay please, just facts [1239 words]bayezidDec 24, 2008 10:34144891
oh man [99 words]bayezidDec 24, 2008 10:42144891
i did look up the meaning of logic, it says it does not know you [936 words]bayezidDec 24, 2008 12:40144891
muslims believe in the revelation of previous books [396 words]bayezidDec 25, 2008 03:56144891
always ...... [579 words]bayezidDec 25, 2008 05:29144891
well said, my brother [44 words]bayezidDec 25, 2008 05:45144891
ask ALLAH, HE will tell you. read the quran. [752 words]bayezidDec 25, 2008 12:25144891
Bayezid's Comments [430 words]EuskalHerriaDec 25, 2008 23:22144891
2Whatever Allah does is wonderful. Isn't it wonderful that He made me an unbeliever? [3106 words]PlatoDec 25, 2008 23:52144891
bazyezid: Word play revisited [1918 words]PlatoDec 25, 2008 23:54144891
bayezid: Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. Martin Luther King [448 words]PlatoDec 25, 2008 23:57144891
still no answers [1209 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanDec 26, 2008 00:19144891
no revelations [1306 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanDec 26, 2008 01:53144891
bayezid, read the Qur'an [121 words]InfidelDec 26, 2008 14:19144891
Mr. Great infidel of KAF. you can tell resons to aviod broken family system in the light of your religion [52 words]MasoodDec 26, 2008 17:59144891
Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan: Muslim Bangladeshis hate to admit they had enlightened idol-worshippers as their ancestors [144 words]PlatoDec 26, 2008 20:55144891
a good start to enlightenment is realising we don't have it. [111 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanDec 26, 2008 22:21144891
bayezid: The Islamic version of the Golden Rule [82 words]PlatoDec 26, 2008 22:51144891
This comment of mine is also, at the top of this forum - where you should be [111 words]kmanDec 27, 2008 01:27144891
some UK stats [112 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanDec 27, 2008 02:54144891
Wow! Grand Infidel of Kafiristan [97 words]raja believerDec 27, 2008 04:22144891
Islamic Reforms- need of the day [236 words]raja believerDec 27, 2008 05:22144891
c-o-n-t-e-x-t, spell this and youll know the magic word [964 words]bayezidDec 27, 2008 07:25144891
wordplay re-revisited. [1525 words]bayezidDec 27, 2008 08:18144891
martin luther king was referring to you [303 words]bayezidDec 27, 2008 08:33144891
yes it is wonderful Plato [274 words]bayezidDec 27, 2008 12:19144891
oh no. there are a lot of answers here. [1494 words]bayezidDec 27, 2008 13:29144891
i believe thats what divinely inspired messages are called in english [856 words]bayezidDec 27, 2008 14:08144891
i read the quran, now i will teach you what it says [231 words]bayezidDec 27, 2008 14:28144891
counterpoints [2056 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanDec 27, 2008 21:09144891
same elephant - diferent part [2323 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanDec 27, 2008 22:43144891
crux of the problem [194 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanDec 27, 2008 23:05144891
embarassing [11 words]kmanDec 27, 2008 23:58144891
There is a problem here, four reliable rapists don't constitute "witnesses". [99 words]kmanDec 28, 2008 00:07144891
delta of the Ganges [168 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanDec 28, 2008 06:29144891
dr king was called a coward and house negro by muslims [22 words]btillyDec 28, 2008 07:00144891
Here we ago again and teaching one at a time [260 words]dhimmi no moreDec 28, 2008 10:25144891
Allah and the 72 virgins [206 words]dhimmi no moreDec 28, 2008 10:37144891
counter- counterpoints [1459 words]bayezidDec 29, 2008 04:22144891
but the same elephant ! [1596 words]bayezidDec 29, 2008 06:40144891
ALLAH orders four reliable witnesses [81 words]bayezidDec 29, 2008 07:03144891
cute [18 words]bayezidDec 29, 2008 07:07144891
Yes, I would be happy if you would just read mine. [22 words]kmanDec 29, 2008 16:32144891
bayezid, who is Allah [453 words]InfidelDec 29, 2008 22:48144891
what do you call it when people can't admit they are wrong? [2442 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanDec 29, 2008 23:25144891
the nature of the elephant [2903 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanDec 30, 2008 01:13144891
dont be happy yet [32 words]bayezidDec 30, 2008 02:37144891
wonderful reward, isnt it ? [55 words]bayezidDec 30, 2008 03:09144891
i completely understand [514 words]bayezidDec 30, 2008 03:31144891
See my previous response to you. I think that says enough. [18 words]kmanDec 30, 2008 19:46144891
It seems that our dear bayezid believes that we infidels will also get 72 vrigins in Allah's hell [180 words]dhimmi no moreDec 31, 2008 06:49144891
Our dear bayezid part deux [983 words]dhimmi no moreDec 31, 2008 07:32144891
ALLAH is the LORD. lol. you didnt know ? [253 words]bayezidDec 31, 2008 08:01144891
why ask someone else when you are the person in question [2354 words]syed bayezidDec 31, 2008 11:27144891
its too large when seen from this close [3499 words]bayezidDec 31, 2008 14:07144891
Bayezid continues [3598 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanJan 1, 2009 00:24144891
dogma is not necessary [6091 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanJan 1, 2009 04:00144891
our dhimmi -- cute little impulsive guy. [278 words]bayezidJan 1, 2009 06:11144891
whats there to see, your charming ignorance ? [34 words]bayezidJan 1, 2009 06:48144891
bayezid: You wrote: ‘you deny the truth and thus harm your own soul'. Now read and discover the harm you to yourself [1130 words]PlatoJan 1, 2009 22:59144891
bayezid: Meeting Allah's challenge is as easy as ABC [2514 words]PlatoJan 2, 2009 02:11144891
dogma is necessary [4914 words]bayezidJan 2, 2009 04:52144891
bayezid: Like the Veda the Koran also admits Allah does not know everything as He abrogates His verses [1235 words]PlatoJan 2, 2009 06:59144891
bayezid, smart as Allah [47 words]InfidelJan 2, 2009 13:27144891
several points [6043 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanJan 3, 2009 02:33144891
Our dear bayezid and the 72 virgins [702 words]dhimmi no moreJan 3, 2009 08:26144891
inshALLAH ill never stop [2079 words]bayezidJan 3, 2009 09:31144891
we agree to disagree [3846 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanJan 4, 2009 00:24144891
bayezid: You are right paedophiles find gratification in their crime. What about Muhammad? [311 words]PlatoJan 4, 2009 05:26144891
bayezid: The internet alone is proof of kaffir intellecutual superiority [78 words]PlatoJan 4, 2009 05:55144891
response to plato explaining to him how he harms himself [2332 words]bayezidJan 4, 2009 08:30144891
and heres another one [135 words]bayezidJan 4, 2009 11:18144891
Sun's motion is not a circle at all, definitely nort a 'sphere' [221 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanJan 4, 2009 22:14144891
kman ... [5 words]bayezidJan 5, 2009 00:35144891
have you considered street comedy ? [1504 words]bayezidJan 5, 2009 03:07144891
ok, several points [2309 words]bayezidJan 5, 2009 05:36144891
grand kafir - rebel without a cause [2795 words]bayezidJan 5, 2009 08:35144891
plato was a great thinker of his time, do not mar his good name by calling yourself by that name [624 words]bayezidJan 5, 2009 10:40144891
more comments [2958 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanJan 6, 2009 00:20144891
More drivel from our dear bayezid [1481 words]dhimmi no moreJan 6, 2009 20:14144891
bayezid: More about Allah's curses and abuses. Part I [2551 words]PlatoJan 6, 2009 23:34144891
circles spheres and ellipses all suggest one basic thng : a ring-like path. [272 words]bayezidJan 7, 2009 04:48144891
Cherry picking time and abrogation [265 words]dhimmi no moreJan 7, 2009 06:48144891
and still more to come, ALLAH willing [1448 words]bayezidJan 8, 2009 04:44144891
bayezid: More about Allah's curses and abuses Part I [2551 words]PlatoJan 8, 2009 06:08144891
bayezid: Some more information on Muhammad and Aisha [2954 words]PlatoJan 8, 2009 06:26144891
zindabad [17 words]Lt. General Ayyub KhanJan 9, 2009 02:22144891
bayezid: More about Allah's curses and abuses Part II [3185 words]PlatoJan 9, 2009 03:55144891
Plato needs to go pluto for truth but yet he will nt understand because his Heart is impure [45 words]bilawalJan 10, 2009 00:10144891
Muslims have strong will power to murder all "Kaffirs" but they lack the means and methods to do so... [111 words]TajJan 10, 2009 13:07144891
You answered the wrong person "bayezid"... no wonder you don't know your own Quran [8 words]kmanJan 10, 2009 23:27144891
"bayezid", I think you had better quit while you are only behind ... [8 words]kmanJan 10, 2009 23:36144891
Now you have it "general", "hate begets hate" thus the high numbers of Muslims [54 words]kmanJan 10, 2009 23:42144891
bilawal: Don't be sad. Laugh and be happy. [94 words]PlatoJan 11, 2009 21:28144891
hate to break it to you...BUT [35 words]Lt. General Ayyub KhanJan 12, 2009 01:45144891
"Fair share of turbulence and violence", yes, they have seen their share, thanks to Islam [30 words]kmanJan 12, 2009 18:16144891
General Ayub: I hate to break it to you too….you seem unaware of the prophet's violent nature [1449 words]PlatoJan 13, 2009 20:00144891
Hindus in India [181 words]Lt. General Ayyub KhanJan 15, 2009 01:45144891
Lt. General Ayyub Khan: We know all about violence not affecting the meaning if Islam because it is all about violence: Koran 9:111 [1381 words]PlatoJan 16, 2009 03:02144891
latest religion [124 words]magenDec 29, 2009 10:45144891
1Quran 8:65-66 [115 words]tayyab manzoorFeb 3, 2010 04:55144891
the challenge [50 words]coolestApr 14, 2010 04:13144891
Counterpoint [227 words]JilmaxMay 7, 2014 13:42144891
What to do? [43 words]Roddy FrankelDec 11, 2008 00:36144884
Beggars With Bank Accounts [148 words]JayDec 10, 2008 23:19144882
Realism versus Idealism [423 words]ZentristDec 10, 2008 21:55144866
Islamism is the Enemy ! [72 words]Anne-Marie DelcambreDec 10, 2008 18:59144855
Call them what they are -- MUSLIM TERRORISTS!!! [77 words]M.D'SouzaDec 10, 2008 16:27144837
Endangered species [11 words]PDMDec 12, 2008 04:21144837
Political Correctness! [425 words]Jim WrightDec 10, 2008 16:26144836
Thank you Jim [155 words]Larry B.Dec 10, 2008 22:12144836
The Nightmare Continues Unabated As We Refuse To Name The Enemy [170 words]orange yonasonDec 10, 2008 16:21144835
Bailout of Civilization [130 words]raja believerDec 11, 2008 15:17144835
Some Excellent Points [8 words]orange yonasonDec 12, 2008 12:57144835
Excellent article; what's in a name... [154 words]jennifer solisDec 10, 2008 15:59144834
100% correct [164 words]RobDec 10, 2008 15:57144833
Excellent ! [21 words]HowardDec 10, 2008 14:43144830
Muslim Exaltation [40 words]raja believerDec 10, 2008 14:36144828
BBC euphamism: "Practitioners" [113 words]F. KatzDec 10, 2008 14:35144827
they will not... [120 words]KarlDec 10, 2008 14:18144825
New Gingrich says the same: "This political system will not react until we lose a city." [342 words]Mladen AndrijasevicDec 10, 2008 14:02144823
Lack of political action by government is a good thing [113 words]PDMDec 12, 2008 04:03144823
Still asleep after all these years. [103 words]Katherine McleanDec 10, 2008 13:55144822
Fear + arrogance = delusion [124 words]jennifer solisDec 10, 2008 21:30144822
Zawahiri's Volcano Metaphor Works Here [187 words]AlexDec 10, 2008 13:07144816
still asleep after Mumbai [64 words]Margaret HoodDec 10, 2008 11:32144810
Thanks Margaret [24 words]Larry B.Dec 10, 2008 22:25144810
Kidnapped IDF Soldier Gilad Schalit must be part any cease-fire deal.... [117 words]No cease-fire with Jehadis..Jan 4, 2009 03:37144810
What's in a Name? [154 words]Anatoly TsaliovichDec 10, 2008 10:37144805
The Missing Link [92 words]Ralph C Whaley MDDec 10, 2008 10:07144803
Naming the Enemy [301 words]prof. paul eidelbergDec 10, 2008 08:28144795
prof eidelberg-moderate muslims are parasites [115 words]btillyDec 10, 2008 18:56144795
Define purpose. Diminish death and torturel honor the righteous and punish the evil [38 words]carol/solDec 10, 2008 18:57144795
Naming the enemy [460 words]Tom CarewDec 10, 2008 19:25144795
The enemy is Islam itself [146 words]Carl GoldbergDec 11, 2008 01:41144795
euphemisms [135 words]Mery ClausenDec 11, 2008 10:25144795
The misconception of islam [147 words]Naheem MalikDec 16, 2008 17:56144795
Defining the Enemy: Islam [1105 words]Prof. Paul EidelbergDec 17, 2008 23:09144795
Regarding moderate muslims [229 words]logical thinkerJan 4, 2009 08:25144795
I agree [37 words]RobinFeb 13, 2009 16:16144795
No hope from the western right, or better the western gays [30 words]Francesco MangasciàDec 10, 2008 08:04144793
1Islamic Terrorism [117 words]S A KapadiaDec 10, 2008 07:59144792
Where are the points of light in the Islamic world? [190 words]Gary JosephsonDec 10, 2008 07:25144788
What to do about the problem? [112 words]hyman peskinDec 10, 2008 07:20144787
Still asleep... [157 words]Shmuel HaLeviDec 10, 2008 07:10144786
1Western Liberal Defeatism [107 words]NevilleDec 10, 2008 06:53144783
3Islam is destroying my country [133 words]SKDec 16, 2008 20:08144783
Islam is indeed growing fast in America [322 words]Keith WilliamsDec 17, 2008 19:46144783
Islam spells doom [331 words]Hindu-HumanistDec 19, 2008 07:02144783
2Islam spells love, peace, justice, equality, respect and tolerance for all religions of God [216 words]Keith WilliamsDec 21, 2008 23:17144783
2The Law of Abrogation and Mohamads example answer Keith Williams dhimmi comments. [635 words]Michelle5publish.Dec 26, 2008 05:21144783
Wow! Well, said! [182 words]kmanDec 27, 2008 01:49144783
I see an excellent comment, but your observation of "Christians" is a little old school. [167 words]kmanDec 27, 2008 02:01144783
As the leader, so the followers WAKE UP AMERICA!!! WAKE UP!!! and WAKE UP Keith and get out of Islam's bed. [1097 words]Michelle5publish.Dec 30, 2008 11:14144783
I don't have much evidence that "Keith" or even "bayezid" bother to "read" or read objectively... [244 words]kmanDec 30, 2008 20:15144783
He Doesn't Have To Read It All . . . [17 words]orange yonasonJan 2, 2009 02:57144783
Wake up! [29 words]AltumishAug 22, 2012 13:05144783
Ajmal Amir Kasab [27 words]Sam DeakinsDec 10, 2008 06:50144782

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