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Submitted by bayezid (Bangladesh), Dec 23, 2008 at 05:39

you presented a hadith about burning the copies of the quran. it is a sahih hadith. sahih meaning pure. but im araid you havent quoted correctly. in fact you havent even named a source. whats to keep people from thinking you devised it yourself? anyways as a muslim, we have a habit of presenting info like this with sources. dont worry, youll learn.

Imam al-Bukhari narrates in his Sahih (6:183-184) from Anas ibn Malik (RA) that Hudhayfa ibn al-Yaman came to `Uthman at the time the people of Sham were battling for the conquest of Armenia and Azerbaijan [~year 25H] with the people of Iraq. Their divergences in Qur'anic reading had alarmed Hudhayfa, so he said to `Uthman: "O Commander of the Believers! Rescue (adrik) this Umma before they differ over the Book the way the Jews and Christians differed." Whereupon `Uthman wrote to Hafsah: "Send us the folios (suhuf) so that we copy them then we shall return them to you." Hafsa then sent them to `Uthman who ordered Zayd ibn Thabit, `Abd Allah ibn al-Zubayr, Sa`id ibn al-`As, and `Abd Allah ibn al-Harith ibn Hisham who copied those folios into the volumes (masahif). `Uthman said to the group - the three Qurayshis: "If you find yourselves differing, [the three of] you and Zayd ibn Thabit in anything of the Qur'an, write it in the tongue of the Quraysh. For it was not revealed but in their tongue." They did [as instructed] and when they finished copying the folios into the volumes, `Uthman returned the folios to Hafsa, sent one mushaf to each region from those they had copied, then ordered that all other [copies] of the Qur'an in each and every folio or volume be burnt.

the quran is revealed in arabic. ancient arabic had 7 seperate dialects. you do know what dialects mean dont you? different syles in speaking. but meaning is same. absolutely the same. its not like there were 7 versions of the quran. maybe you did not know this but other islamophobics know about the futility of using this argument since weall know the truth. maybe you are new in this?

so diferent tribes strted reading the same quran with diffrent sounds. this would cretae dissenssion among the people. so the best of the dialect among the 7 was chosen. and it was the qurayishi dialect. the quraysh was the tribe of the prophet and its dialect had sounds and phonetics much similar to the quran in arabic. you can verify by checking out the original copies in turkey in saudi arabia today.oh yeah we still have it.

but in no way i it this that quran had different versions. you can be a skeptic all you want but it is a historical fact.

the quran is not the eiffel tower. you just noticed that? i was simply using a metaphorical example. the quran is an intricate message that no man can come up with. in any way you lok at it. the structure. the sound. the numerical value and frequencies of words in the chapters. the addressing of the message. impeccable.

and you can stop complaining about it and just try to write your verion of a quran. ALLAH challenges men and jinn to it. so give it your best shot.

so the u n existed in the 7th century? the declaration of human rights? good you re learningto be humurous. but im afraid with the wrong kind of info. back then , people had no conventions. let alone human rights. let me tell you about your rights back then, in any place in the 7th century, you had none. and the ones that had it were the nobility. dont even get me started on rome. or greece.

ever wonder why people had problems with islamic values then? it was because ALLAH directly tells everyone that men and women were the same. but none of your ancestors would have that oh no. it was just one of the reasons.

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