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History Turkish style part three

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in response to reader comment: All abrahamic religions are destroyers

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Jul 10, 2012 at 13:40

Our dear Mozere is telling us that Egyptians destroyed their ancient pharaonic past is far from the truth and for the readers interested in history of religions as this is beyond our dear Mozere poor Turkish education: religions are no more than human ideas that seem to be replaced by new religions which seem to be different and may present a case of historical discontinuity but on close examination historians can prove that these new religions are no more historical continuity of human idioms, ideology and also iconoclasm and that historical discontinuity as proposed by the God of islam and his so called prophet cannot be supported

I urge the readers to check this picture that you will find on the jacket of David Frankfurter's great work Religion in Roman Egypt and in this picture you will find the falcon Egyptian God Horus the slayer of the evil and in this case he is slaying a crocodile http://press.princeton.edu/images/k6417.gif and in the words of Frankfurter is "the God Horus' ancient powers of vengeance and expulsion but now according to the image of a victorious emperor. Thus he rides.....a falcon headed warrior with breastplate and cape pulling back the reins of his horse with one hand and empalming a demonic crocodile with the other."

Now compare this with the icon of Mari Girgis a Coptic saint who is depicted in the motif called saints on horses also impalming a demonic creature but for sure a real Christian/Egyptian view of life of same idioms as with the great God Horus impalming an evil creature, http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/32/99/41229/Folk/Special-Files/Egyptian-saint-Mar-Girgis,-Prince-of-Martyrs.aspx

So what does this mean? let me quote Frankfurter: "the armored gods change with these new trappings of imperial authority but while they retain functions essential to any sacred image of victorious power to protect the household or sacred place according to the most basic traditions of warding off evil and certainly also to celebrate the timeless power of an ancient god.. Coptic art historians have long seen a clear line of development between the armored Horus and like gods and the images of the great Coptic Christian military "rider saints" like Saint George (Mari Girgis)."

Oh and it really takes Frankfurter 313 pages to prove the point

What is most amazing is that the celebration of the birth of the Sufi Saint el-Sayyid el-Badawi in the city of Tanta is as old as Egypt as it is no more than the celebration by ancient Egyptians of the birth of Horus!

So you see our dear Mozere religions Islam included are no more than recycling of old ideas and that iconoclasm is no more that a physical destruction but the idioms and ideology never go away

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