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Exposing tablighee twists and turns

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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Mar 8, 2015 at 16:22

Our dear Jamil I wrote:

ROTFL This must be the most stupid remark that you ever made. Mr and you must pardon me ignorant if you need to know the meaning of an Arabic word then you go to the top of the food chain and in the case of Arabic it is Lisan al-Arab dictionary and I provided you with the link so all you need to do is to tell us where does Ibn Manzur say that the word receipt in Arabic really means Istilam and not Wasl or Isal as i proved to you

And this is our dear Amin's answer

But I would be quoting a dictionary by Ibn Manzur the Muslim, no?

Oh let me guess you cannot read an Arabic text I see and the insanity goes on

And they are all corrupt, un and poorly educated, didn't you say?

Where did I say that? Hint: more evidence that you have no clue about literary criticism and more evidence that either you received your education in a madrassa in India or Pakistan or education in England is really poor so which one is it?

You still did not answer my question! Did you read what Ibn Manzur tells us about the root S L M?

And while we are waiting here is the word RECEIPT in Arabic a language that you cannot speak read or writeالوَصْلُ : الإيصال ، وثيقة تعطي مقابل ما يدفع من مالOr al-Wasl al-Isal is a document given in exchange for what was paid in money

And in the face of evidence this is our dear Amin's answer!

Nobody cares.

Care about what? That you are and you must pardon me have no clue that the Arabic word for receipt is Wasl or Isal?

Here is the link so while you are in your bed check the link if you can read Arabichttp://www.almaany.com/ar/dict/ar-ar/%D9%88%D8%B5%D9%84/And you will find it in Hans Wehr page 1073

And this is his reply

bla bla

I read this as: You have no answer

Shame on you

How come you did not know that? and did you do the Falafel man test? I can assure you he will laugh at you if you tell him to give you Istilam instead of a Wasl/Isal

And this is his answer

Which falafel man would that be?

The one that sleeps with 'Aisha who breast feed the youth of Quriash!

Can you recommend any in particular?

Yes that one and you know what?but you know what? ask a stupid question and you will get a sarcastic answer

So you tell me how come you did not know that the word Wasl or Isal in Arabic mean RECEIPT? Ignorance may be?

And this is his answer

I'll read this as diversions..

Diversion from what? So let me ask you again: How come you did not know that the word receipt in Arabic means Wasl or Isal? Ignorance may be?

And here is the meaning of the word Istilam from an Arabic dictionary written by Arabs and not by some German Arabistاِستِلام: ( اسم )

مصدر اِسْتَلَمَ
اِسْتِلامُ رِسالَةٍ : تَسَلُّمُها ، أَخْذُها بِاليَدِ

Or Istilam noun istalam masdr ISTILAM message is the RECEIVING and taking it by hand

This is what Istilam means and this is how you use it with the word Wasl as in:

إيصال استلام عهدة:

وثيقة يصدرها بنك يضمن فيها أن الورقة محلّ عقد الخيار مودعة لديه وأنها متاحة للتسليم حسب الأصول

Or Isal Istilam or the RECEIPT OF RECEIVING are you that slow?

This is what your Arab masters tell us so are they liars or are they Islamophobes?

But again as Egyptians say Kulu 'and al-'Arab saboon!

And this is his answer

Long live the Egyptians, now get over them and lets move on...

I see you did not even understand a single word right?

Oh I'm not done and here is the meaning of the word Istilam in Hans Wehr

Well let us read it and this is what it says

1. receipt

************************************* BINGO! ***************

Then go and tell me the editors at Hans Wehr dictionary to provide you with what is meant by the word "receipt" here and where is the evidence that the word istilam indeed means (among other defintions that you did not even mention to the readers) receipt

I will be waiting for your answer with great anticipation

2, acceptance

3. taking over

4. assumption

Assumption, taking over and acceptance do not mean receipt right our dear Jamil

Stop contradicting yourself.

I see you have no answer

So you tell me since when assumption acceptance or even taking over mean receipt care to enlighten us kuffar/ Oh I forgot that because you are an Ahamdee you are a kfir too

ya Roh Omak so you tell us in your own words what is the meaning of these words

ya means ya, roh means roh and omak means omak. There you go.

ROTFL so let me ask you again what does Ya roh omak mean? You have no clue right?

But here is the problem the author does not define the meaning of the word RECEIPT and for this you have to check Lisan al-Arab the rest of the meaning as per your idol Hans Wehr is really means RECEIVING! do you get it or are you that slow?

Hans Wehr, Third Edition, Page426:

Oh and check Hans Wehr Third Edition page 1073 for the real meaning of receipt or Wasl

Oh and while we are waiting for your answer

So can you tell us what do the following words in Hans Wehr mean? receipt, acceptance, assumption, taking over?

Hint: Never assume anything

Then I asked

1. Why did your Hindu ancestors convert to the religion of the Arabs only? Was it because of the sword as in Islam Tislam or were they bribed in-order to convert to Islam as it says in Q9:60?

I did not get an answer then I asked

2. Is it true that millions of your Hindu ancestors were killed enslaved and raped by the Muslim invaders on India or was Elst a liar?

And this is his answer

Which "Hindu" ancestors are these then,

Yes Your Hindu ancestors! And how come your Allah is silent about your Hindu ancestors? any guesses?

I'm counting on you to reference/list their names so that I can set aside a day and come sit with you to mourn them?

Well again your education is poor it is you that have to do the following provide us with your name and is it Jamil or Amin Riaz and where were you born in India and thanks to ancestry.com I will find yor ancestors deal?

Then he wrote

Deal?

You are not even original

3. Let me see you ain't an Arab so you cannot be an Ashraf so are you an Arzal our dear Amin I mean Jamil?

You did not answer this question so are you an Arzal our dear Amin?

Now it is your turn to make a fool of yourself again. Go! (as in go and make a fool of yourself)

o to the falafel manNot g (sic)?

You are not even funny or original

Do not run away as you always do

Leave Islam and get a grip on reality

Only if you get a grip on istilaam.

Well I will leave this remark to the readers to judge you because if by now you do not get it that receipt in Arabic means Wasl or Isal and Istilam means receiving then you are beyond help so are you beyond help our dear Amin?

PS: Ask me how did I know that Jamil is Amin? I dare that you ask

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