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And Mine For You - Shalom

Reader comment on item: Niqabs and Burqas - The Veiled Threat Continues
in response to reader comment: My final word in this matter!

Submitted by M. Tovey (United States), Dec 30, 2009 at 11:22


In retrospect, this only means that there is nothing that we have considered from our respective points of view that has changed, and in each of our determinations, nothing further need be considered.

In retrospect, I have read not only the exchanges we posted, but I have read the posts you exchanged with other readers as well. In them , I found that your position in these matters have come from a lifetime of influences and decisions of thought, and from that perspective, I knew full well nothing I could present would deter such thinking from its present course. This is also true of Mssrs REDMOND, Massoud, sTs, and others.

I am only left with one inconsistency in what has been exchanged, not as a matter of contention, but of observation. In your post "Things Both Felt and Observed Beyond the Ordinary," you made this comment, "I hold Yeshua to be a teacher, guide and exemplar for the way……, " which I thought was interesting in contrast to your specification that no written word was sufficient to influence your beliefs. The peculiarity is that all of what we know about Yeshua today is in written form, and that if some part of what we are able to derive about Yeshua is sufficient, then all of it must be taken in consideration for it to have its full measure of truth.

We have read as well where others have adopted a partial understanding of who Yeshua (Jesus Christ) is. As an example, even as the Muslims say they have their version of the Messianic principle and how 'Issa' is supposed to fit into their theology, they fail as well to realize that without His Deity, Yeshua could never have been inserted into the human conscience or consciousness. The full connection requires an insertion of a more complete knowledge, requiring a full spiritual conversion, for which one must have a willing spirit.

I will close with the observation that your closing lines in that same post did represent a similar truth to me as it did you. "Even then there is no guarantee that you would experience those same things exactly in the same way as I do. My biggest difficulty in growing up was the fact that I thought that other people experienced life as I do. It took me some time to realize that that was 'definitely' not the case." I would have a hard time finding truer words in the human experience.

Siochan leat…..and shalom.


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