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Reader comment on item: Niqabs and Burqas - The Veiled Threat Continues
in response to reader comment: God encourages difference

Submitted by the Grand Infidel of Kafiristan (Australia), Oct 3, 2009 at 21:04

Mr.Ali writes:

"Then what about the State of Israel."
What about it - is it a problem for you? Then what about the Principality of Liechtenstein?

"The Jews have their National God "
Israel is a secular state - it does not have a national deity.

and they refuse the Unity of their God to be the Unity of the God Christians and Moslems worship?

"What about other religions which harbour no Gods like Buddism..."
What about it - is this a problem for you too? Or is it because you can't or don't grasp the Buddhist concept of 'Self'? That man in his normal state is unawakened and ignorant? That man has a 'true' or 'higher' self and that the goal of life is to become enlightened. This is exactly what Sufi mystics would agree on. If Buddha and Christ had met - the would not disagree on this.

"There is also a growing population in the West who are irreligious and worship no Gods at all. They cater for cats and dogs instead?"
Who knows - but as you yourself say - 'God encourages difference'.

"moreover Moslems are not easily to be brought to believe in one world based on the Unity of God. "
I agree - they prefer they prefer the idea of one world based on the unity of their distorted religion .

"They want Churches to be replaced by mosques and the Call of Prayer replaces the bells, women to be klad in Hijab and the Westerners do not relish that?"
You really have to ask if ? Or is that suposed to be a rhetorical question?
Let's answer it with another question: ""They want mosques in all countries to be replaced by churches and the Call of Prayer to be replaced by bells, women to be clad in whatever the women themselves wish to wear and the MUSLIMS do not relish that?"

"You talk of a world without boundaries! "
Who said anything about a world without boundaries? But now that you bring it up , the perception of a lack of boundaries is a function of the perception of an enlightened mind. For the rest of us - boundaries are quite necessary. You have a boundary at your front door don't you? I can't just walk in off the street to your house, go straight to the fridge and take what I want out of it can I? (Assuming of course you actually had things in there I liked)

"......What about Imperialism and missionary efforts of many churches to bring ignorant African under the Cross, "
Sounds like sour grapes. If the Islamists had got there first (as they are now trying to do in Somalia, Nigeria etc) - you'd be saying - 'see how wonderful Islam is - how many peope in Africa follow it?'

".....of course sometimes under a mask of humanitarian missions such as the Red Cross."
And what of the Islamic invasions of North Africa and parts south eastern Europe - and the Red Crescent ?

"Sufist do their best to reach God's conscious. "

As do meditating Buddhists, Hindus and millions of other people around the world who follow the core teachings of their beliefs.

"In other words, there is much to religion than can be solved by proving the Unity of God. "

There is nothing to prove - first hand experience is what counts.

"Mankind will find some other things to differ upon and fight for, for sure... And the problem after all is not religion. Religion is a reflection of class conflict on the National and International planes... Marx is another God who wants to remove barriers. "

If religion is the opiate of the masses - then power is the opiate of the weak - and no religion is higher than truth.'


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