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in response to reader comment: Salah Ali: You are saying for non-Muslims the Koran has as many meanings as there are translations

Submitted by Salah Ali (Norway), Sep 25, 2009 at 01:32

Then, what about the God in Christianity and Judiasm? Negating Islam is one thing but negating faith is another?

In fact, all prophets speak the language of the nations they were born in. We do not jesus to speak Assyrian or Arabic but Aramic in which the Bible was written, for the best of my knowledge. Suppose, you live in a dorm in an English University, and you are English, no one would expect you to reject the English breakfast bacon which a Moslem loathes to touch. You may call this culture and a man is Chinese, Arab or English because he was born and brought up in China, Iraq or England. But so many English and Chinese are Moslems while you never find an Arab who is Buddist, and the arab Christians were there before Islam. Islam is third humanity, so many Moslems in the world, and I suppose the non-Arabs have read the Qur'an in translations, there is something missing: The tone and the metaphor, there are also so many ellipted structures for whose compensation we need to dive into the deep structure.. There is law and rhetorics . In the Arab world linguistics was based on the Qur'an...How could a man achieve all that : Bringing third of mankind to his faith? Are those non-arabs including some fine scholars, stupid not to understand Qur'anic (deceptions) or worldliness?

There is a Surah in the Qur'an en: Muhammad. I think this is very much descriptive of the prophet... We expect Allah to be self-glorifying himself...He calls people to worship and dicrates a moral code which upholds cleanliness. For example, a pious Moslem never tell lies or steals or contaminate his tongue with bad words or with backbiting...Why should anyone ignore the Ethics in Islam? All religions share in that, and all religions can as well be naive. I believe mind is not a function of the brain. And logic is related to will . We do not choose to be ethical creatures for we are ethical. Mathematics and music have proportions and beauty and they are not to do with nature per se. Think of both as independent of man's consciousness (awareness). How can we taste music and understand mathematics. in other words, wherefrom came our perception and conception. Muhammad is a means to transfer a message. The message has so many details that are not Godly. Still the composition in its totality is harmonious. The harmony cannot be achieved by man. I would say the speaker in the Qur'an is omnicient. I am not trying to trade views or force a conviction but I am trying to learn. I read the Qur'an critically and with Kant, Hegel, Husserl, etc. in my mind. Believe me I find something so powerful in the words and the composition. I am not dealing with history here, or politics. But of ontology and philosophy? How could both nature and culture serve various stages of man's history? Darwin cannot explain the coming into existence of civilizations? And their disappearance. One question (forget about womanly business Aisha and Mary) how comes that horses were made to be useful during the classical wars. I mean how could a horse be used in a given phase of cultural history of man...Where from the oil? And how oil is used in modern technology..We cannot say we are athiest and get satisfied while neglecting these significant issues which even fine minds as that of Haldane, bernal and Einitein wondered about. We will if so doing be like a satisfied Moslem who never asks questions. We choosse our faith, it is not imposed on us. we cannot be ignorant, when reality is made clear to us... We are not fighting after all..


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