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Submitted by Hindu4Life (United Kingdom), Aug 6, 2010 at 16:34

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You obviously think you're ... trying to recruit new people into Islam online.

Oh and by the way before i continue with my comment, i did get some great satisfaction from your answer, satisfaction in knowing that i am truly following the right God (and yes i am a Hindu).

Wondering why i am making such as claim, simply because my god is firstly merciful, kind, loving and everything great and the proof of this is the fact that virtually no Hindu (except a couple) have even gone to war and used hinduism or god as a justification.

Where as this is all the Islam (or to be correct Muslims) seems to do, wage war on the world and then say that Allah commanded you to do so. Now for what its worth, i actually dont believe a single thing when people say Allah commanded me to go to war, that is just mans lack of understanding and misintreptation of the Qur'an. Something mainly fuelled by the lack of education in Islamic countries.

I personally believe that god (whether it's Ram, Krishna, Allah or anyone else) is setting the religion they lead a test on how peaceful they can be, and to date islam is probably the biggest failure.

But anyway lets have a quick school of thought, if Allah for example was the only god. Why the heck would he want his children to kill each other? The Qur'an specifically states that Muhammad said "You have your religion, i have mines". For your notes i have and am currently reading the Qur'an. I have made it a mission to read the main scriptures of every major religion, and to date have found nothing anywhere that would make me want to convert away from Hinduism. Not because Hinduism is the worlds best, but because actually every religion is equal. Its mans views on proving that his way is best that has corrupted gods name and religion.

If that all to complex for you, heres another school of thought, people (mostly Muslim) say that the Hindu scriptures contain references to Muhammed, so what if it does. Has anyone actually stopped to think maybe all the gods of every religion actually hang out together. Abit like the Greek Gods do in Olympus, and that references of gods or prophets in other religious text is actually their plan in making everyone come together in unity, forgetting their differences and practicing their own individual religion as Humans and not Muslims, Chritians, Jews, Hindus, Sikh and any other religion or faith group.

But anyway back to your point on Idol Worship, which i assume is a dig at Hindus who "Idol Worship". There is a very great and profound reason for this.

It is because Hindus (or actually on a more correct level - the Sanatana Dharma), believe that god is omnipresent, he is in everything and anything and as result it is "the concept" of Idol worshipping that allows Hindus to get closer to god. After all We firstly claim to have 330 Millions god, well actually one god who takes 330 Million forms.

Besides i distinctly remember reading that Muhammad when he went to Mecca to the Kabba destroyed all but one Idol. If Islam is so against Idol worship, why did he not destroy them all. For those that wish to say i am wrong and that Muhammad did destroy them all, then ok lets say he did. The Qur'anic interpreation of Idol Worship as Luqmaan said to his son is placing anything but god with more importance.

At this point i hope you are thinking...

Ok stop, so lets bring this closer to home, read [12:106] in the Qur'an it clearly states the following "The majority of those who believe in GOD do not do so without committing idol worship".

or even more closer as i am now on a role, read [4:116] it says the following "GOD does not forgive idol worship (if maintained until death), and He forgives lesser offenses for whomever He wills. Anyone who idolizes any idol beside GOD has strayed far astray."

For Hindu's the whole point is that we Idol Worship an Idol of GOD. Not my neighbour or his dog, but God. The biggest misconception Islam has about Hinduism is this.

If you still think you are right then how about this, pratically every Muslim is an Idol worshippor. Why because you all spend more time doing your day to day things than praying, yes you do Namaaz 5 times a day, but it lasts 20 minutes at a time tops. so what 1 hour 40 minutes for god and 22 hours 20 for me.

Plus if Islam is so against Idol worship, why do Muslim homes and Masjid's have pictures of the Kabba in Mecca, or more importantly why have the Kabba, why not destroy it. it is after all an Idol of God, may be not in human shaped form but none the less you believe that it helps you get closer to God.

At this point i expect you to probably be fuming and ranting and raving like a girl, saying "how dare you insult islam". The simple fact is i am not, what i am doing is invoking a school of thought that is outside of what you know. Professionals call it thinking outside the box.

As for you still claiming you are right and that i am wrong, well frankly anyone with a sane mind reading this will agree with me, why because i have unequivocally proven that firstly Idol worship wrong or right is done by everyone (as per the very extracts of the Qur'an) something you cannot argue with and because my school of thought far surpasses you child like way of ranting.

God Bless

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سعاد صالح or Su'ad Saleh issues an apology for recommending that a husband is allowed مضاجعة ونكاح البهاءم if his wife dies! Read and laugh [190 words]dhimmi no moreMar 4, 2020 11:2526556
1The case for Quarantine or كرانتينا (E. Arabic) or الحجر الصحي (MCA) and President Trump is very correct to ban flights from Europe [292 words]dhimmi no moreMar 12, 2020 17:1326556
1Does Halah food protect Muslims from the Coronavirus? And delusions from Pakistan! [194 words]dhimmi no moreMar 16, 2020 11:0426556
Coronavirus has entered Medina [17 words]J.R. QwertzMar 28, 2020 16:1926556
Kafir means non-believer not Non Muslim [195 words]PranabMar 30, 2020 04:4526556
Qwertz: The Saudis and the Wuhan/Chinese coronavirus pandemic! [159 words]dhimmi no moreMar 31, 2020 09:0626556
Our dear Pranab and the word كافر [85 words]dhimmi no moreMar 31, 2020 14:5426556
Even Moderates Believe in Killing Kafir Today [157 words]SAApr 9, 2020 03:4226556
Kalki avtaar & relegion of peace [28 words]Abhimanyu vermaMay 1, 2020 19:2426556
what is Hinduism [429 words]RishikaMar 26, 2022 17:2026556
Islam destroyed buddhism from Dr. Ambedkar [155 words]SujataMar 26, 2022 17:5426556
Not intolerant [323 words]ArchanaAug 9, 2005 06:2324451
Mr.Pipes, please start all new Cable Channel "Freedom" [74 words]HerveMar 14, 2005 13:0020976
10Islam is biggest Threat for Whole World [610 words]HerveMar 14, 2005 12:4020975
What? [40 words]PEACEAug 13, 2007 13:4720975
1DEAF AND DUMB [159 words]KHANApr 21, 2008 17:0320975
1Wrong [86 words]MyraMay 11, 2008 18:4820975
1Me Again.... [106 words]MyraMay 11, 2008 18:5420975
2Real Educated (not brainwashed) Muslims can save the world [1903 words]XYZNov 2, 2008 12:3620975
3The world would be a better place without Islam [43 words]mieouxNov 30, 2008 01:1220975
the author is 100% correct [77 words]humanityJan 11, 2009 13:3720975
islam [173 words]markJan 25, 2010 12:1620975
muslim is not terrorist [27 words]AyeeshaMar 3, 2010 07:5420975
Rethink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [34 words]saqibApr 28, 2010 07:1020975
Not Really No [549 words]Hindu4LifeAug 6, 2010 10:5120975
Very Nice [384 words]Hindu4LifeAug 6, 2010 11:4520975
Inquisition - Arab Apology Demanded? [226 words]John Randall PeacherMar 8, 2005 17:1120877
Fear and Absolute obedience [273 words]John CarlsonSep 2, 2006 19:5120877
RE: Inquisition - Arab Apology Demanded? [513 words]MiquelJan 21, 2007 16:5920877
1Please do some research [223 words]Neutral observerApr 5, 2008 08:4720877
Excuse-me? [31 words]YnnatchkahApr 7, 2008 01:0320877
Slave Soldiers of militant Islam and the Tsunami Disaster [132 words]Ilona MelstradsDec 30, 2004 15:3619253
Re: Militant Islam [158 words]RenataNov 29, 2004 08:2518694
We should accept Turkey into the EU [20 words]OzgaziOct 28, 2004 11:5518015
I disagree [104 words]reema saffariniOct 20, 2004 12:2917817
Strong Opposition [213 words]PublicFeb 25, 2006 10:3217817
Brutality [141 words]S.C.PandaOct 14, 2004 06:1717721
2prophet mohammed said " who ever changes his islamic religion, KILL him " [223 words]Phil GreendJun 24, 2009 23:3017721
Islam is a violent religion [163 words]JohnnyNov 6, 2009 11:2817721
1from which side [50 words]doesnt matterFeb 25, 2010 16:2017721
its matter [19 words]sumitMay 24, 2017 05:1517721
Not all [34 words]JaimeOct 13, 2004 15:1617634
Thank you. [57 words]John EkdahlOct 7, 2004 12:4317558
Muslims are what Islam Makes of Them [97 words]Gamaliel IsaacOct 7, 2004 10:4817557
5Why is there such an anti- Hindu hysteria among some muslims? [73 words]Michael J BlusteinOct 5, 2004 00:2517520
answer to your question [75 words]a sasidharFeb 12, 2006 23:1217520
islam- much more than what they call it!!! [129 words]anubha khandelwalSep 5, 2006 12:5017520
Why is there so much anti islamic remarks? [48 words]rashidJul 9, 2007 10:1417520
Because they are jealous of hindus [128 words]VJJul 21, 2007 04:3017520
Islam is the only right way not hundism. [86 words]emran ahmedSep 29, 2007 18:2817520
Info [109 words]soulOct 26, 2007 11:4817520
4Islam- most intolerant & violent cult of madmen | Hinduism- the most liberal way of Life [130 words]Jai RamFeb 13, 2008 14:1717520
Disagree: Islam preaches hatred? Where? [48 words]MkFeb 20, 2008 20:4717520
1Muslims hate Hindus because we dont like geting pushed around [130 words]AnonMar 12, 2008 10:2917520
hindu religion [159 words]MR ?Mar 23, 2008 14:2817520
124Muslims hate Hindus because we dont like getting pushed around [193 words]sandeep koulApr 2, 2008 07:5017520
Re: Mr? [495 words]sibaramJun 3, 2008 06:1717520
Tecniques to rule over the world [332 words]surinder singhAug 1, 2008 03:2417520
Idols [31 words]Hindu-HumanistOct 16, 2008 02:1517520
the bene israeli jews have been in india for long before the birth of islam [71 words]sheenaJan 15, 2009 13:2417520
1Jai Ram is right [9 words]steadyfriendNov 21, 2009 19:4217520
muslims have to admit that there are other religions also exist in the world [55 words]ashishDec 29, 2009 15:3317520
why muslims hate hindus [37 words]siddarthJan 3, 2010 00:1817520
Ph.Ds not needed to see the sun [175 words]VamananJan 14, 2010 22:5117520
God Fight!!! [145 words]PeacemakerMar 27, 2010 12:4317520
2comment [79 words]Cool DrangoApr 10, 2010 03:0717520
islem is the religion of right [80 words]achouakApr 20, 2010 09:1317520
Muslims marry everyone [152 words]shankarMay 17, 2010 10:4217520
Islam tolerated in India as well [310 words]Jack SwaggerJul 8, 2010 10:0317520
Full View [341 words]DrPhilAug 6, 2010 13:2317520
Response to MR? [470 words]Hindu4LifeAug 10, 2010 18:1817520
Not another ... [762 words]Hindu4LifeAug 10, 2010 19:3217520
truth [48 words]David HarlowJan 22, 2011 10:4717520
AGREE!! [25 words]yogita ashokFeb 29, 2012 10:1717520
My Dear Brothers & Sisters [85 words]SafiJan 25, 2013 11:2117520
Pride to be a christian [33 words]BenSep 18, 2014 02:0717520
Excellent! A request [22 words]David TsalOct 4, 2004 03:4317513
Pakistani Judge's Comment [282 words]John C. ZimmermanOct 3, 2004 17:3217505
You read my mind [43 words]Harry F StarkOct 3, 2004 13:5617504
Militant Islam [54 words]Issa BotrosOct 2, 2004 13:0917498
Militatant Islam and freedom of choice? [66 words]John SmithOct 2, 2004 06:1717495
Lacunae in Pipes' writings on Islam related issues [230 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Shankar SharanOct 1, 2004 07:1917486
mr shanker you'r e so wrong [41 words]veeraApr 11, 2006 21:3517486
veera ji aap ko sachhai maalum nahi hain [118 words]dilipJan 19, 2007 10:1417486
Can we keep it simple? [84 words]Robert M. ArmstrongSep 30, 2004 11:0117475
no problem, robert [79 words]rashidJul 9, 2007 10:3017475
If thats so [65 words]Hindu4LifeAug 10, 2010 18:3217475
La Ikrah Fil Deen [218 words]maurice massaadSep 29, 2004 22:3217468
jizya [62 words]rashidJul 9, 2007 10:1917468
do they pay? [12 words]SathyaNov 26, 2008 10:1117468
A query on literalism and on politics in Islam [290 words]John ClementsSep 29, 2004 19:3417463
Islam is like all religions? [299 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Bill SweeneySep 29, 2004 15:3517460
What you see isn't What you get [628 words]Raymond LullSep 29, 2004 15:0317458
Gagging America in the Holy War [555 words]Jordan OroszSep 29, 2004 10:5917455
Tariq Ramadan [122 words]Dave KabaySep 29, 2004 01:0917449
Preaching vs Action [321 words]Hari IyerSep 28, 2004 23:5417448
Islam vs. Freedom of Religion [89 words]Arlinda DeAngelisSep 28, 2004 23:2217447
re [57 words]veeraApr 11, 2006 21:2817447
May Allah enlight you [301 words]naing winJan 28, 2009 05:3517447
"Infidels." [24 words]Douglas BoggsSep 28, 2004 22:1317446
Good Article [46 words]Umm YasminSep 28, 2004 21:4917444
Turkey must be allowed to enter the E.U. [49 words]J. SheffSep 28, 2004 19:1217441
Interpretation [60 words]vladSep 28, 2004 16:2417436
False Hope [175 words]Tom ClearSep 28, 2004 14:3017434
Please .......brother [26 words]mayeedApr 5, 2009 12:3817434
Faith vs. Reason [240 words]Ralph C. Whaley MDSep 28, 2004 13:5917431
Faith [139 words]PJSep 30, 2006 15:0517431
Re: The Koran on tolerance of other religions [1557 words]ElliottSep 28, 2004 11:5217424
control the world [194 words]jackDec 3, 2006 21:5417424
the quran [37 words]rashidJul 9, 2007 10:3317424
true history [64 words]jaYDEEPANDec 11, 2008 15:2617424
Not so different [32 words]marySep 28, 2004 11:2417422

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