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Real Educated (not brainwashed) Muslims can save the world

Reader comment on item: [The Issue of Compulsion in Religion:] Islam is What Its Followers Make of It
in response to reader comment: Islam is biggest Threat for Whole World

Submitted by XYZ (Canada), Nov 2, 2008 at 12:36

Educated Muslim Brothers please wake up to the life of 21st century and take over the reign from half educated Imam (Fundamentalist) and blood sucker politicians to save the world and yourselves:

Pl. note that I do not belong to any religion. I violently hate caste system of Hindus. I belong to a religion dreamed by Buddha, Emperor Akbar, Kabir, Rammohan Roy, Lalan Fakir (Bengali song writer), Bengali Poet Kaji Nazrul Islam where all human beings are same. We are like brothers and sisters.

I am telling you some facts and of my analyses to support my above address.

1) If you see the global picture, Muslims are allowed to build mosque in many countries all over the world. Can a Church, Pagoda or temple be made in Saudi Arabia (an example only)? Answer is – No.

2) If one non-Muslim boy marries a Muslim girl, he has to convert himself to Muslim. For a Muslim boy, the bride from other religion has to be converted - other wise he/she or both will be killed. It is not a requirement for any other religion. – Why?

3) A Muslim woman can wear Muslim dress in Canada, USA and India etc. Can any non-Muslim woman wear her regular dress in Saudi Arabia (same in many places)? If she does - She will be killed or punished. Why?

4) Many Muslims are broad minded and like to live in peace and harmony with people from other religion. But, I have seen that even the educated Muslim (in the education level of Ph.D.) believes that if he can convert one non-Muslim to a Muslim or can kill a non-Muslim who does not like Muslim religion, after death he would go to heaven where 40 nice young girls (in Muslim language called Huri!) would be serving them. How is this brainwash possible? Is there any heaven??

5) If one talks anything against Muslim religion he will be simply killed or would be under threat of death. See the fate of Salmon Rushdie (Satanic Verses) and Taslima Nasrin. No other religion acts this way. No body can touch the power of Allah or God just by writing a book, then why is this rudeness?

6) In most Islamic male-dominated society (where fundamentalist are ruling) girl/woman is like a commodity and is treated badly. They have no equal rights like their counterpart enjoyed in other countries. Muslim Girls/Women are of equal strength (I am not meaning physical strength) like their male counterpart. Just by keeping the girls inside house, Muslims are suppressing half of their power in the kitchen – why?

7) India's president is a Muslim. Can you name a Muslim country where the head of the nation is from other religion?

8) I have not seen any non-Muslim who does not hate Islam religion (they way it is being practiced) for their narrow mindedness and cruelty. Why it would be like so way? A Christian does hate a Buddhist or vice versa.

9) In undivided India and elsewhere people did not become Muslims just by loving Islamic faith other than Muslim's brotherhood concept (that too among Muslims – not extended to non-muslims). In India, people were converted by the sword of the Islamic rulers, additional taxes for practicing own religion (Zizia kar i.e. economic pressure) and due to most derogatory Caste system of Hindu society, which is currently diminishing drastically.

10) Ethnic cleansing: Muslim cannot live with others. See the Islamic countries – very few people from other religion live there (unless they are labour force for Oil –gas industries etc). For example in Bangladesh in 1947 after independence, the Hindu population was about 10% now it is close to 2%. This decline in Hindu population was due to discrimination in jobs and intolerance to other religion. Same in Kasmir; where Muslim population was higher than Hindu population. But gradually due to terrorism etc, they made the Hindus life miserable in Kasmir and forced them to flee and are trying to get Independent Country. But, see how many Muslims live in India, USA, Canada, UK, France and elsewhere. No body is driving them out.

11) No Muslim has even left (except during independence) India due to discrimination but lot of Muslims from Bangladesh are infiltrating to increase the Muslim population in India (Assam and elsewhere) apparently to claim another Muslim Land like Pakistan in future.

12) Did division of India helped India, Pakistan or Bangladesh? See how many innocent people were killed on both sides. I blamed Gandhi and his follower Nehru for this genocide. To protect their boarder, India and Pakistan are buying weapons and enriching economy of USA or other counties while their people are suffering from mal-nutrition, food and education. Pl. see how much money could have been used for improvement of the general public and how many innocent lives could have been saved if there was no division of India in the name of religion.

13) Dominancy of religion over society changed with time. At one time India was under the control of Priest – that is long gone. Pope used to manage the king. That too was gone. Now, is the time for general educated Muslims to take over the reign from half educated Imam (Fundamentalist) and reform the shortfalls of Islam faith and educate the other common uneducated or half-educated Muslim to live in peace, harmony with people of other religions.

14) Some Muslims dream that one day whole world will be converted to Islam. Most likely, there is a hidden plan and there are devoted soldiers who move from place to place to fight against non-Muslims to materialize their dream. They are dreaming of a false paradise. This will only lead to the bloodbaths and kill common people on both sides: Muslim and Non-Muslim. Can you kill or convert almost one billion Hindus all over the world to Muslim, do you dare to convert Sikhs or Jews to Muslim or total Christian population to Muslims without a catastrophic blood bath at both sides. And what would you gain? Love of Allah that too by killing his sons and daughters who are in the form Hindus, Jews, Sikh and Christian. Muslim terrorists! Your mentors (Imam and Religious leader) are fooling you for their own vested interest. You will know it if you are properly educated. Come out of your small well (Madrasa education) to the ocean of 21st century education – you will see Allah/God are same, all human beings are your brother/sister. Religion is like a dress i.e. perfectly personal between you and your God i.e. consciousness that will lead to self-realization.

15) Muslims believe – in future, number (Muslim with highest population) would rule the world. This is why lot of Muslim countries are against family planning. In 21st century when people do not fight with sword – number of soldiers has no meaning. It is the weapon which will determine who will win.

16) Islam is the fasted growing religion. But, mind that this is due to the refusal of family planning by Muslims. This growth is due to newborn babies of Muslim families. I have seen in Libya (in year 2000), one man has thirteen kids. This is obvious when one couple is getting two kids (one in China). Here and there few people are being converted to Islam to get rid of poverty by Oil-money supplied by Saudis. Some black people in America are being converted because of lack of proper care from the Govt. of USA just like the mistake of Hindus for their Caste system. A majority of India/Bangaladeshi Muslims is converted from the oppressed low caste Hindus. Hindus had paid a lot and would be paying more in future for the mistake. Until USA is careful they will have the same situation from the Black American.

17) Muslims (not all Muslims, there are hundreds of Muslims, whom I admire for their broadness) with very narrow vision do not even want to know what is good about other religions like Christianity or Hinduism. What is really God or Allah mean? Are they different? They do not have the curiosity to judge why only prophet Mohamed is right others are wrong. Why is this narrow mindedness? Where was Allah or God before Muhammad or Jesus was born? Human being is living in this world for at least 100000 years. They made pyramid, invented gunpowder, develop basic mathematics, develop astrology, and so many things? In China, religion is almost band (no Allah, No God, No Jesus) they are thriving to get the status of Superpower soon. See what Afganisthan is getting just by being uneducated Muslim?

18) The religious war (Crusade) between Christian and Muslim over 100 years and 500 years of Muslim rule in India proved that this world would never be a 100% Islamic world. On the contrast, because of current uprising of Islamic fundamentalism, gap between Muslims and non-Muslims are gradually increasing. Hatred between them is being multiplied. Both sides have nuclear weapons. We are sitting on a time bomb. It is in the hand of the educated or common Muslims to eradicate the fundamentalism or the dream of global Islamic kingdom. If they fail, in near future there would be a bloodbath that was never seen in the past and Muslim would shed more blood than the other side as the other side will be always remain stronger. I do not know whether there is any heaven but there is a hell right here with us if we do not love each other and learn to live in peace and harmony.

19) Even, if the whole world is converted to Islam. It would not be the same Islam what to-day's Muslims are dreaming. They will dare to see the faction of Muslim groups that would be created all over the world. Quran would be re-written as per local demand of the people. See the division of Shia and Sunni. Think of eight years fight between Iran and Iraq both are Muslim countries. Think of Sufis and Bahai etc. I have seen majority of Muslims in Canada, USA and Europe do not do fasting in Ramadan, drink alcohol and eat pork. Muslims girls are not anchored at kitchen or home, came out of home and competing with the boys in the offices, hospital etc. with full efficiency. See Muslims in Bangaladesh is different to Muslims in Afganisthan. Can one imagine Sekh Hasina as the leader of Taliban? Think of Iran during Shah's time.

Conclusion: Romans got their glorious days and that is gone. Same are with Muslim, British Emperors and communism. Now USA is enjoying but probably they are seeing that their days are also to soon be over. This age is for common people, democracy and education and it is the age to wipe out autocracy, vested interest, superstition and religious blindness. Main problem with Muslim countries that most of them are not educated, as needed for the 21st century they are still living in the 17th century or beyond. Once they get the proper education (if common educated Muslim people come forward) they would be able to see the real world and will be able to identify real enemy – they will kick out fundamentalist concept and religious blindness and learn to live with others with peace and harmony without even bothering what religions others or he himself are having.

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think peace not skeptism [231 words]Ravikumar ShuklaDec 24, 2010 14:2826556
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100% incorrect [58 words]hitlApr 23, 2011 12:0026556
100% foolishness [45 words]hariApr 23, 2011 12:0726556
kabha is a hindhu temple [17 words]V.R.YADAVSep 3, 2011 00:1326556
GOD [56 words]ram devJan 12, 2012 06:0726556
ISLAM FAILS TO REACH ITS MESSAGE TO ITS OWN FOLLOWERS [36 words]pranavFeb 14, 2012 12:0126556
Hi ! [19 words]ScrutatorMar 16, 2012 16:5226556
I AM THE GOD [36 words]WHAT IS IN THE NAMEApr 13, 2012 06:5026556
7Please educate yourself before you talk about Hindu religion [419 words]subenMay 13, 2012 14:4126556
Pamodha the wise man [49 words]PrashantMay 15, 2012 02:1326556
5Buddhism - An antidote for Hinduism [375 words]PamodhaMay 22, 2012 11:5926556
1Pamodha please do an intellectual inquiry [40 words]PrashantMay 23, 2012 01:5326556
THANK YOU [32 words]ASMA MAJIDJun 21, 2012 13:4726556
If you are a sincere Sikh I should praise you [131 words]ronNov 30, 2012 02:1126556
Re: Absurd Hinduism [44 words]AnkushApr 3, 2013 00:1726556
Spread of Islam in India [321 words]Independent ThinkerMay 19, 2013 06:0326556
Reply [42 words]Vishwas KMay 19, 2013 06:4126556
orthodoxy muslim [29 words]samar mohammad khanJul 29, 2013 12:2926556
real fact [50 words]hinduAug 5, 2013 01:3926556
TRUTH of Islam practice [721 words]HUMANNov 2, 2013 05:5026556
I Agree the greatness of the muslim religion but than why the followers are being so cruel to humanity [371 words]HumanMar 1, 2014 06:3226556
Thanks [4 words]KismaaatMar 30, 2014 18:0626556
KHAFIRS [37 words]HinduJun 29, 2014 05:4826556
Gita [100 words]RaviAug 19, 2014 16:2726556
Pamoda, you need to learn a lot. [165 words]RockyOct 7, 2014 15:3626556
If Islam is a religion of peace [17 words]S WrightJan 12, 2015 12:5026556
islam imposing [71 words]rkjJan 13, 2015 07:1226556
Islam is a cult [87 words]SridharJul 16, 2015 10:4926556
truth lies in facts [73 words]puneetSep 4, 2015 11:0626556
Excellent interpretation [562 words]Ujjwal KarmakarJun 3, 2016 05:1826556
Islam [11 words]SomadityaSep 15, 2016 00:4826556
All false claims! [31 words]kunal kumarNov 18, 2016 00:5026556
Really? [193 words]AddiyanJan 2, 2017 01:1326556
i left it [17 words]Haneef KhanMar 27, 2017 12:2726556
Quran was a improvised answer book by prophet mohammed [76 words]VinApr 6, 2017 05:3226556
Hadith says invade india [22 words]RajeevMay 9, 2017 11:2326556
Quran [123 words]SumitMay 24, 2017 03:4726556
humanity [155 words]sumitMay 24, 2017 04:5626556
Not intolerant [323 words]ArchanaAug 9, 2005 06:2324451
Mr.Pipes, please start all new Cable Channel "Freedom" [74 words]HerveMar 14, 2005 13:0020976
10Islam is biggest Threat for Whole World [610 words]HerveMar 14, 2005 12:4020975
What? [40 words]PEACEAug 13, 2007 13:4720975
1DEAF AND DUMB [159 words]KHANApr 21, 2008 17:0320975
1Wrong [86 words]MyraMay 11, 2008 18:4820975
1Me Again.... [106 words]MyraMay 11, 2008 18:5420975
2Real Educated (not brainwashed) Muslims can save the world [1903 words]XYZNov 2, 2008 12:3620975
3The world would be a better place without Islam [43 words]mieouxNov 30, 2008 01:1220975
the author is 100% correct [77 words]humanityJan 11, 2009 13:3720975
islam [173 words]markJan 25, 2010 12:1620975
muslim is not terrorist [27 words]AyeeshaMar 3, 2010 07:5420975
Rethink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [34 words]saqibApr 28, 2010 07:1020975
Not Really No [549 words]Hindu4LifeAug 6, 2010 10:5120975
Very Nice [384 words]Hindu4LifeAug 6, 2010 11:4520975
Inquisition - Arab Apology Demanded? [226 words]John Randall PeacherMar 8, 2005 17:1120877
Fear and Absolute obedience [273 words]John CarlsonSep 2, 2006 19:5120877
RE: Inquisition - Arab Apology Demanded? [513 words]MiquelJan 21, 2007 16:5920877
1Please do some research [223 words]Neutral observerApr 5, 2008 08:4720877
Excuse-me? [31 words]YnnatchkahApr 7, 2008 01:0320877
Slave Soldiers of militant Islam and the Tsunami Disaster [132 words]Ilona MelstradsDec 30, 2004 15:3619253
Re: Militant Islam [158 words]RenataNov 29, 2004 08:2518694
We should accept Turkey into the EU [20 words]OzgaziOct 28, 2004 11:5518015
I disagree [104 words]reema saffariniOct 20, 2004 12:2917817
Strong Opposition [213 words]PublicFeb 25, 2006 10:3217817
Brutality [141 words]S.C.PandaOct 14, 2004 06:1717721
2prophet mohammed said " who ever changes his islamic religion, KILL him " [223 words]Phil GreendJun 24, 2009 23:3017721
Islam is a violent religion [163 words]JohnnyNov 6, 2009 11:2817721
1from which side [50 words]doesnt matterFeb 25, 2010 16:2017721
its matter [19 words]sumitMay 24, 2017 05:1517721
Not all [34 words]JaimeOct 13, 2004 15:1617634
Thank you. [57 words]John EkdahlOct 7, 2004 12:4317558
Muslims are what Islam Makes of Them [97 words]Gamaliel IsaacOct 7, 2004 10:4817557
5Why is there such an anti- Hindu hysteria among some muslims? [73 words]Michael J BlusteinOct 5, 2004 00:2517520
answer to your question [75 words]a sasidharFeb 12, 2006 23:1217520
islam- much more than what they call it!!! [129 words]anubha khandelwalSep 5, 2006 12:5017520
Why is there so much anti islamic remarks? [48 words]rashidJul 9, 2007 10:1417520
Because they are jealous of hindus [128 words]VJJul 21, 2007 04:3017520
Islam is the only right way not hundism. [86 words]emran ahmedSep 29, 2007 18:2817520
Info [109 words]soulOct 26, 2007 11:4817520
4Islam- most intolerant & violent cult of madmen | Hinduism- the most liberal way of Life [130 words]Jai RamFeb 13, 2008 14:1717520
Disagree: Islam preaches hatred? Where? [48 words]MkFeb 20, 2008 20:4717520
1Muslims hate Hindus because we dont like geting pushed around [130 words]AnonMar 12, 2008 10:2917520
hindu religion [159 words]MR ?Mar 23, 2008 14:2817520
124Muslims hate Hindus because we dont like getting pushed around [193 words]sandeep koulApr 2, 2008 07:5017520
Re: Mr? [495 words]sibaramJun 3, 2008 06:1717520
Tecniques to rule over the world [332 words]surinder singhAug 1, 2008 03:2417520
Idols [31 words]Hindu-HumanistOct 16, 2008 02:1517520
the bene israeli jews have been in india for long before the birth of islam [71 words]sheenaJan 15, 2009 13:2417520
1Jai Ram is right [9 words]steadyfriendNov 21, 2009 19:4217520
muslims have to admit that there are other religions also exist in the world [55 words]ashishDec 29, 2009 15:3317520
why muslims hate hindus [37 words]siddarthJan 3, 2010 00:1817520
Ph.Ds not needed to see the sun [175 words]VamananJan 14, 2010 22:5117520
God Fight!!! [145 words]PeacemakerMar 27, 2010 12:4317520
2comment [79 words]Cool DrangoApr 10, 2010 03:0717520
islem is the religion of right [80 words]achouakApr 20, 2010 09:1317520
Muslims marry everyone [152 words]shankarMay 17, 2010 10:4217520
Islam tolerated in India as well [310 words]Jack SwaggerJul 8, 2010 10:0317520
Full View [341 words]DrPhilAug 6, 2010 13:2317520
Response to MR? [470 words]Hindu4LifeAug 10, 2010 18:1817520
Not another ... [762 words]Hindu4LifeAug 10, 2010 19:3217520
truth [48 words]David HarlowJan 22, 2011 10:4717520
AGREE!! [25 words]yogita ashokFeb 29, 2012 10:1717520
My Dear Brothers & Sisters [85 words]SafiJan 25, 2013 11:2117520
Pride to be a christian [33 words]BenSep 18, 2014 02:0717520
Excellent! A request [22 words]David TsalOct 4, 2004 03:4317513
Pakistani Judge's Comment [282 words]John C. ZimmermanOct 3, 2004 17:3217505
You read my mind [43 words]Harry F StarkOct 3, 2004 13:5617504
Militant Islam [54 words]Issa BotrosOct 2, 2004 13:0917498
Militatant Islam and freedom of choice? [66 words]John SmithOct 2, 2004 06:1717495
Lacunae in Pipes' writings on Islam related issues [230 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Shankar SharanOct 1, 2004 07:1917486
mr shanker you'r e so wrong [41 words]veeraApr 11, 2006 21:3517486
veera ji aap ko sachhai maalum nahi hain [118 words]dilipJan 19, 2007 10:1417486
Can we keep it simple? [84 words]Robert M. ArmstrongSep 30, 2004 11:0117475
no problem, robert [79 words]rashidJul 9, 2007 10:3017475
If thats so [65 words]Hindu4LifeAug 10, 2010 18:3217475
La Ikrah Fil Deen [218 words]maurice massaadSep 29, 2004 22:3217468
jizya [62 words]rashidJul 9, 2007 10:1917468
do they pay? [12 words]SathyaNov 26, 2008 10:1117468
A query on literalism and on politics in Islam [290 words]John ClementsSep 29, 2004 19:3417463
Islam is like all religions? [299 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Bill SweeneySep 29, 2004 15:3517460
What you see isn't What you get [628 words]Raymond LullSep 29, 2004 15:0317458
Gagging America in the Holy War [555 words]Jordan OroszSep 29, 2004 10:5917455
Tariq Ramadan [122 words]Dave KabaySep 29, 2004 01:0917449
Preaching vs Action [321 words]Hari IyerSep 28, 2004 23:5417448
Islam vs. Freedom of Religion [89 words]Arlinda DeAngelisSep 28, 2004 23:2217447
re [57 words]veeraApr 11, 2006 21:2817447
May Allah enlight you [301 words]naing winJan 28, 2009 05:3517447
"Infidels." [24 words]Douglas BoggsSep 28, 2004 22:1317446
Good Article [46 words]Umm YasminSep 28, 2004 21:4917444
Turkey must be allowed to enter the E.U. [49 words]J. SheffSep 28, 2004 19:1217441
Interpretation [60 words]vladSep 28, 2004 16:2417436
False Hope [175 words]Tom ClearSep 28, 2004 14:3017434
Please .......brother [26 words]mayeedApr 5, 2009 12:3817434
Faith vs. Reason [240 words]Ralph C. Whaley MDSep 28, 2004 13:5917431
Faith [139 words]PJSep 30, 2006 15:0517431
Re: The Koran on tolerance of other religions [1557 words]ElliottSep 28, 2004 11:5217424
control the world [194 words]jackDec 3, 2006 21:5417424
the quran [37 words]rashidJul 9, 2007 10:3317424
true history [64 words]jaYDEEPANDec 11, 2008 15:2617424
Not so different [32 words]marySep 28, 2004 11:2417422

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