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Further on the Implications of Rejecting The Hebrew Holy Bible and Relations with Israel

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in response to reader comment: My Reply to M Tovey--- Continued

Submitted by M. Tovey (United States), Jan 19, 2011 at 18:47

I continue here with further explanations of why our perspectives clash; for you have not yet reached a place to see why our worldviews clash as they do. One might suppose that our contravening worldviews are merely a source for debate, that a conclusion favoring one side or another may only be achieved by looking at the facts. But as you have already determined that your view of the facts is the only view you are willing to concede, I will dispense with providing facts of historical perspective for which you have no regard.

We (you and I and our contemporaries) have lived in a modern time of immense Biblical proportions, the likes of which evangelicals of history past could only look forward in wonderment. In America's nineteenth century, prophecy was a tool to teach those who believed in faith in Jesus Christ as LORD and Savior that a future so many would never understand was on the horizon, its completion a fulfillment of the promises to the individual believer, and a completion of the will of Almighty God for all mankind. In those days, without Israel being a reborn nation like it is today, faith was all that one could attain to for realizing how that all might come to pass.

That is no longer the case in this day. Israel's place in the world today and in the years to come have changed all of the former ideas of world events and how they are affecting national relationships. This is the exquisite part; that it all happened in the lifetimes of people we know alive today. In that, we can take knowledge that the Hebrew Holy Bible does not give any extra time to work things out. When we are out of time (corporately and individually), we are out of time.

You try to make a case that Israel does not have the credentials to be the modern prophetic successor to the promises made to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as do so many Muslims and even some falsely called Christian organizations and other badly misinformed. You cast uninformed references and aspersions against Israeli citizenry as to whether or not they are the ones Almighty God is covering in His grace and fulfillment of prophecy. As I mentioned previously, He KNOWS who His promises are going to affect; and He knows those who have rejected His WORD in the Hebrew Holy Bible.

Now you might still want to make a case that I have it wrong, that I should not be so intent on keeping true to the Hebrew Holy Bible, but you have nothing in your cases of human intellect to prove Almighty God wrong.

The Hebrew Holy Bible has it written that Almighty God will bless those who support His children and will curse those who curse them. You have tried to make a case that several regimes and nations that have supposedly had good relations with Israel are derelict or defunct, no different you say than those who were diffident in their relations to Israel. My thought on that is the evidence that history provides. If we are to maintain that Almighty God keeps His WORD and promises, and we see a regime or nation fall in their path of destruction, then something was not right in their relation with Israel, and Almighty God knew it in letting them fall (for His knowledge in such things is perfect).

Now let us look, as you have prompted, at Syria, or Iran. How shall we categorize their relations with Israel? Would you not agree that based on their reported and published statements ('wiping Israel off the map') that theirs is a less than friendly posture towards Israel; that if given the chance without consequences they would try to destroy Israel as it is known today? Given that other countries who claimed they had supposedly good relations with Israel were left to their own devices and eventually found themselves in the trash heap, how should/would we expect the circumstances and consequences for Syria and Iran to come out? Remembering their fate and destiny are already written in the Hebrew Holy Bible, my assertion is that they need to change their attitude and realize Jesus Christ IS who He says He is, and that history will record their fate just as He said.


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