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Islam and Turkey and speaking of victims and propagandists

Reader comment on item: Islamist Turkey vs. Secular Iran?
in response to reader comment: to michel zala

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Dec 12, 2010 at 09:04

Our dear Havas is posting from the occupied Byzantine Empire and the funny thing is the Turks, as I have said before, are the most confused people on earth and as a result of the invasion and destruction of the Byzantine Empre, by the Turish hordes that came from central Asia, the likes of our dear Havas are the real victims and this is how far he has been detached from his past:

The Turks are no more than the decendants of the Greeks and the Armenians and the Syrians that lived in Asia Minor from time immemorial and now his likes had to convert and become a Turk! and then they have to stop being Greek speakers or Armenian speakers or Syriac speakers which results losing their real cultures be it Greek or Armenian or Syriac and now they are Turkish speakers and then to add insult to injury they covert to the religion of the Arabs further detaching themselves from their past and what a shame but again because "old civilizations are never conjurec away" those insecure Turks have to continue to distance themselves from their past right our dear Havas ?

Now do they care about their own past or their own ancestors? No and not even close

Oh and the self hate as revealed by the atrocities committed by the wannabe Turks against their own people that refused to have anything to to with the Turks and the end results were genocides and expulsions including the Armenian and the Syrian genocides and the killings of Greeks and their expulsion from Asia minor and what is really sick is when we hear from the Turks that there really was no genocides! Shame on them

So the Turks are very insecure about who they really are and they are foolish Greeks and Armenians and Syrians that converted to the race of the Turks and now are now Turksih speakers and became Muslims so they can distance themselves from their past as far as they can go

So logic dictates that any attack on who they are inclduing islam is a direct attack on Turkey and now we have the answer

>my english is not enough to write too long. ı try to make simple comments about how ı feel as a turk. ı am a muslim. this is my belief and culture. ı wont accept any bad comment against islam.

For the readers: This is indeed the point as our dear havas realizes that any attack on islam is really an attack on the foundation of who are really the Turks and that being a Turk really means some one who resides in occupied Byzantine Empire whose ancestors are Greeks and Armenians and Syrians and now he pretends to be part of the Turkish hordes that invaded the Byzantine Empire and who speaks Turkish and to distance himself from his past he is now Muslim. No wonder they are the most confused people

Now our Havas the wannabe Arab if we tell you that your so called prophet was an Arabian warlord and caravan raider it is because kutub al-turath al-Islami (oh do not panic the books of the islamic tradition) that you cannot read in Arabic tell us that he was indeed an Arabian warlord and caravan raider and any 53 year old man that marries a 6 year old then ...So if you do not like it when we tell you the above then destroy your islamic sources and good riddance because this is what these sources tell us about your so called prophet

But you know what? The Qur'an a book that you cannot read in Arabic tells us that Islam is really the religion of the Hijazi Arabs only! If you need references then just ask

So you see our dear Havas the wannabe Arab/Turk: stop being a lackey of the Turks and the Arabs and be free again

>so ı disgree with your opinions about islam.

Oh Michel has an opinion? Sobhanallah and do you really read his long winded posts all of the post? He is and you must pardon me a joke

>on the other hand ı agree with you that turkish islam and others are different. our islamic belief is deeper than the other countries,

Delusions! Islam in Turkey is really a way for wannabe Turks to distance themselves from their past and their real ancestors

Hello: islam is really the religion of the Arabs only and you ain't an Arab after all your so called Allah the Arab says

wa ma arsalna men rasulan ila bilisani qawmihi

So who was the rasul that was sent to your Greek and Armenian and Syrian ancestors because he cannot be Muhammad? Any guesses?

>but it is much more piecefull and tolarates others.

Really? when how about the Armenians? Oh I guess there was no Armenian genocide as per Turkish BS and how about the Greeks? Oh and as per Turkish BS they only whine! How about the Syrians? Oh I forgot as per our dear Turk they never existed

I call this delusions

>because we lived together with christians and jews together for hundreds of years.

And where are the "Christians" now? Any guesses?

>we know you. ı and most of us turks accept the advanced culture of west. we wanted to join eu.

Oh yeah I wish that Turkey join the Eu because I can see the Armenians and the greeks and the Syrians taking Turkey to the EU courts and getting back what was taken away from them! This would be the ultimate punishment

>but we are rejected and humiliated by their leaders.


>and european people dont want us there.

Yes because they do not want barbarians in their midst

>so today including myself, great majority of us dont want to join eu any more.ı feel very much insulted by the attitudes of europeans.

Then go back to central Asia and good riddance

>the reason why we became more conservative(and not islamic) country is this rejection.

Oh a Turk that uses reason! Spare us this one

>but we also realised that economically and politically we can act independently and still can be fine. ı think mr erdoğan is doing this job very well. we started to get self confidence now.

One word propagandist!

>it is quite possible that in few years turkey will drop its demand for eu membership.because we started to have a better democracy, we started to be richer now.so maybe we dont need eu anymore.

Hello: Europe do not want you to join the EU do you get it?

>personally ı feel very bad things against israeli people after the murdered 9 turks in the ship. ı dont think my feelings will change until ı die. ı try to seperate the jews of the world from israelis. but this doesnt mean that ı kill or smack israelis or dont do business with them. this means ı will not sit in the same table with any israeli who defends these murders.

A Turk who has feelings! Oh spare us this one too

>ı thank you for your good words about turks. but from our point of view it is not so important that europeans seperate us from the other muslims. because ı know that european people dont want us there and we turks accepted this situation.we dot need to push this artificially. we must be independent country. ı hope we can succeed to be rich people some day.

You can be rich people if you get rid off Turkish imperialism and stop being followers of the religion of the Arabs and beg for forgivness for the crimes of Turkey against humanity

>ı also think that there is 0 % possibility for turkey to adopt sharia laws.

Oh the ridiculous shari3a law! Even your masters the Arabs have no like for it

>we need the same standarts as west have, sharia cant do this. not to satisfy west but for ourselves .

So you agree that al-shari3a is really ridiculous right? You think that I should tell your masters the Arabs that you our dear havas do not like al-shrai3a?


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