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Our dear Michel and his little love fest with Kebab! part deux

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in response to reader comment: To Havas: we face similar problems - To Dhimmi: Chill, Dude, before you get a heart attack -

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Dec 14, 2010 at 06:14

Our dear Michel who has a real peace of work in his backyard that claims to be a "moderate Muslims" oh it is Tariq Ramadan al-ikhwani! How disgusting Then what do I get from Michel? It is a long winded response on behalf of a Tukish propagandist by the name of Havas

Hello: Mr Einstein this debate is about Islam in Turkey and in Iran and it is not about me or about you and all I'm saying is that and read this with care again

The Turks view Islam as just another step that distance themselves from who they really are and they are the decendants of the Greeks and the Armenians and the Syrians and to add insult to injury they have to convert to the race of the Turks and then stop speaking their real languages be it Greek or Armenian or Syriac and then they become Muslims further distancing themselves from who they really are

For the readers: there is agreat book by a Muslim Turkish lawyer who discovered that her grandmother who looked and acted as a Muslim Turkish woman was in actual fact Armenian and she was abducted by her grandfather during the Armenian Genocie and she became his wife but she never stopped wanting to see her family and her dream was to see them one more time but they were all living in the US

This is what Turkey is all about

>Mr. Havas, here's a great example, how our own fanatics treat their own,

Hello: the so called Mr Havas is no more than another Turkish propagandist.

>if they dare to engage even remotely in a respectful discussion with a Muslim. In utter denial of the fact that any side could go back in history and find skeletons in the various closets, Dhimmi, quite actually someone I respect for a lot of factual knowledge, depicts Turkish origins certainly correctly. However, while we celebrate Alexander the Great as one of the most skillful conquerors in history, re-shuffling Asia Minor indeed, the other side of historians describes him as a ruthless, brutal invador, causing much harm and misery. I've studied the man.... no denial of the fact that there are two sides to the coin, here.

Hello: prove me wrong! But you know what? you cannot because you are not very focused and you are and you must pardon me a demagogue

Now do I have any respect for Turkey No I do not. Do I have repsect for propagandists like Havas No I do not and do I have respect for people like you. No I do not

>Being a bit facetious, if we go back even further, Dhimmi 's own ancestors originate from current Tansania, hence this makes him an African, invading the lands of the north and then spreading out :) So... how far are we willing to go back in order to justify or argue territory, culture, race, religion or rights? Do we draw the line with the Romans or Byzantines, Persia, Babylonia or Egypt, or shall we go back to Lucy? Aren't these arguments all irrelevant in trying to resolve the conflicts of the 21st century?

Nonsense. Mr Einstein The Armenian Genocide took place less then 100 years ago and the expulsion and the killings of the Greeks took place in 1922 and 1955 and the crimes gainst the Syrians is less then 100 years ago and I call all these crimes as no more then self hate!

>As outlined in my piece with regard to Assange and WikiLeaks, where I made an effort to derive, how our own society, our civil rights and liberties are at present under siege by people who abuse and pervert them, Dhimmi presents yet another example, how for instance Freedom of Speech is being perverted to the interpretation of a free pass for slandering and offending people in the worst manner. Ironically it is people like Dhimmi, who endlessly keep on harping on our Freedoms and liberties in comparison to many muslim nations, but neglect to see, how in fact they themselves undermine their values and true intents, thus partake in the moral decay of our own culture, while proclaiming to inhabit the moral high ground in their struggle against Islamists, who subsequently themselves are feeling empowered to sardonically point out exactly this decay of morale and basic decency. Feeling to be on the forefront in the war of cultures against Islam, it is people like that, who gush fuel into the fire and quite actually strengthen the position of already determined enemies of the west.

Where did i post anything about Assange?

Do us a favor and stay focused

>Dhimmi does not get through his bonehead, that there is a difference between pointing out deficiencies matter of factly and/or debating respectfully with an achievable objective in mind, differentiating between a nation like Turkey or for instance Iran, and indiscriminately spewing out anger and hatred, thus growing the anti-western base from which islamists can recruit.

I have no respect for Turkish propagandists like our dear Havas and islamic tablighees and both groups get from me what they deserve: Sarcasm

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