For shakeel and dreaming in color!
Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Feb 14, 2007 at 12:39
My dear shakeel, how did I miss all the gems that you have been posting? Shakeel is not an Arabic name so what kind of name is Shakeel? Pakistani name? Now you wrote:
>in fact no land is ours we are just dwellers of thses lands and all the land belong to god (your Allah tha is)
But my dear shakeel this is not what it really says in surat al-anfal where it says that al-ghanima (oh I forgot that you know no Arabic: the loot) taken from the infidels, land and all, 1/5 of it will go y to your Allah and his rasul the Arabain warlord and caravan raider Muhammad. Tsk...tsk...tsk...you did not know that did you?
And where would the rest of the loot, land and all, goes? It belongs to the barbarians called Muslims.
Then you wrote:
>in fact Muslims had established powerful civilization in the past and then they got the setback because of Western colonization and exploitation.
This must be the gem of the week. The Arab invasion of the middle East was nothing but imperialism and coloialism by the Arabs that brutalized your Hindu ancetors too.
But wait this is not all: The so called Islamic civilization was the product of the old civilizations of the Middle East, the Greeks and the Persians and the Syrians and the Egyptians and the rule of the Arabs in their own civilization was marginal at best.
Ali dashti claims that 70% of al-3ulum al-islamiya including the Hadith, the sira, tarihk, asbab al-nuzul etc...were the creation of the Iranian 3Ulama. And what is most bizarre is that non Arabs the likes of Sibawayhe (he was either an Afhgan or an iranian) and Hunein ibn Ishaq (he was nestorian) are the ones who really developed the grammar and the masora of the Arabic language .
So what were the arabs doing in the meantime? They were doing what they always did best: loot, kill, destory, enslave, fight and kill and claim that all of this barbarity is done in the name of the god of the universe. Oh I forgot and Allah and his rasul must get 1/5 of the loot. Learning and culture was the last on the minds of the Arabs.
The Islamic civilization was already in decline by the mid-Abbasid period and it did not have to wait for the so called "Western colonization and exploitation"
The you wrote:
No it is 3A'isha. And let me tell you all of the hadith is bogus and I can just about find anything in the hadith including that Muhammad was let us say a communist. But we are told ad nauseum in the hadith and the sira that 3A'isha was married to Muhammad when she was 6 and they had sex when she was 9 and he was 53 years old. Even if they had sex for the fist time when she was 17 why would a 53 year old man marry a 17 year old woman more so when this man had already 22 other wives and concubines (see Ali dashti)?
And like I say you are out to spread the religion of the arabs and Arabian imperialsim that brutalized your ancestors and for this I say shame.
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