To Noah: Our dharmas are different II

I have serious doubts about that, but you are the expert.

So were you fighting to train your soldiers in jungle warfare? And bombing empty jungles. Now I understand why you say your strategists do not have a squirt of common sense. Just a few snotty remarks for you to shoot down.

Since you tend to multiply your figures by arbitrary numbers by what factor can I expect you to multiply a number near zero with? And your 'nearly impossible' drives me up the wall. You also seem to have you forgotten that Islam has already got its hands on nukes? It is not 100% certain but common sense tells you that America is rushing helter skelter towards disaster as long as there is a single Muslim within its borders as the Muslims are incubating the Hiroshima plot and the Holocaust plan. To counter that you have your own Hiroshima plot and Holocaust plan, only multiplied a 100 fold.

I am sure those figures have been distilled from the figures you supplied to a number crunching super computer.

You Americans are so generous. It must be your BBB training.

You had put them in the 'God forbid' category in your plan. Which is, oh so very reassuring. And you are certain Muslim countries are suicidal which is not reassuring if your plan calls for acting before the Muslims decide to commit suicide.

Oh, when any Muslim country shows what are suicidal tendencies in your estimation, put it out of its misery before they act on it.

You have a plan to close up America so tight after expelling all Muslims that no Muslim will be able to crawl in. That is sane. Among 1.2 billion Muslims the moderate ones are so tiny that they are non-existent by your very accurate estimate. That is the deduction of a sane genius.

Not just zero comprehension but negative comprehension. Your plan not having to be implemented is contingent on the improbability of some Muslims not being able to sneak in and do what you consider is unacceptable damage. And in that unlikely event you are willing to destroy upto half a billion people including a 100 million of people you yourself would consider innocent bystanders.

As nonsensical as scientists finding a biological basis for religious belief.

Actually I have zero comprehension of what you mean by 'nearly impossible', 'virtually insures', 'virtually assures', ,virtually guarantees' , 'minimizes to near zero', 'casualties can be a little higher maybe a hundred-fold more, and 'God forbid'. As you say God forbid those nearly impossible situations.

Historical precedence? You mean Hitler's final solution? It sure bothers me.

Yes we do focus on nuclear war because it is an extinction level event. That's why. Your plan, since it contains so many 'nearlys', 'virtuallys' and starting numbers being multiplied by hundred is so dicey we get nightmares after reading it. Your plan is virtually a doomsday plan.

That is your anectodotal evidence. Michel and I sometimes give our own anectodtal and even statistical evidence which you simply dismiss out of hand.

Your figures you pull out of your own hat. Figures coming from anywhere else are trashed. That is why you call them 'absurd', 'aberration', 'exceptions to the rule'.

When you don't like something that is said on this blog it is shot down promptly as absurd, stupid, or more politely as relativistic nonsense.

I don't know what to think of your numbers. You seem to throw out very precise figures . Even experienced sociologists would hesitate to come out with such stunningly accurate figures. If your intention is to stun the readers, it fails because you have a tendency to put in saftey factors of a hundred-fold or so.

I prefer moral relativism to moral absolutism. I use the Native American paradigm as a touchstone for testing the morality of pre-emptively deporting a few millions based on no more than anecdotal and poor scientific evidence seeing all American Muslims as terrorists and their supporters bent on destroying America. The natives were destroyed by your forebears with the excuse they were savage and uncivilised. The same charge you now bring against the Muslims. You regret what happened to the natives. Will your descendants have to regret what you plan to do to the American Muslims? Probably like they can shrug the whole thing off as not being relevant then, a fait accompli.

You did not become Nazis because you did not attack them to begin with and you never adopted the Nazi way of doing things. Against the Soviets you did not reciprocate in their style. Now you are proposing mass deportation as the Nazis and Soviets did and if that is resisted the Muslims are to be killed, by your calculation 20k or at the most 100 times that. You also say in your post: " First, remember that my method virtually insures against such a nuclear war. Second, if we nuked their population centers, they'd all die. Some from the blast, others from radiation sickness (if we used neutron bombs), the rest from starvation. Remember, neutron radiation would also kill plants and cattle. No doubt they would resort to cannibalism, but they're barely able to eek out an existence as it is, with millions and in some cases billions of dollars in foreign aid. So they would die out pretty readily. We could always help them along by spraying with nerve agents, napalm, firebombs, etc. It would be easy."

You first say that your plan virtually ensures no nuclear war. In the next breath you say if you nuked (unlikely event?) their population centres and if that happens you expect them to become cannibals to survive and you are ready and willing to help them die using all your favourite weapons, nerve gas, napalm etc. Just like a doctor's (Dr.Mengle?) clinical discussion on how the patient can be put out of his misery. Good going Noah, after you deal with the Muslims your mirror will be so misted up with the fumes of the gas and napalm you will not be able to see how your face has changed after all that.

Honesty lies in telling me that I believe only .00001 per cent of Muslims are moderate?. You are not willing to consider that human behaviour follows the bell-shaped curve with extremes of behaviour at the tails of the curve. You have assumed that all muslims are concentrated at one tail, with the bell shape disappearing and only one tail showing. The differences we see among people because of religion, sex, race etc comes from differences in experience, education, the media, parenting etc. I think it is our duty, at least I consider it is mine, to help Muslims reform by attacking the source of their 'weltanschauung'. That is my dharma. You have yours.

That is me babbling unintelligible propaganda in favour of fanatical Muslims to you. So be it.

And Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan, and whereever there are Muslims. Some of them will crawl all the way to the US

"We killed 100 million Iraqis? Then there are no Iraqies alive, since there are only 26.7 million Iraqis. I guess you're getting your numbers from the same insane source where Michel gets his 30 million Muslims in America. Hmmm...maybe you're one of Michel's split personalities, just Michel posting under another user ID and talking to yourself? Interesting".

"Unfortunately for you, I am somewhat of a Vedic scholar. The definition of karma you see there is a perversion of the original Vedic concept of karma, which was merely the law of cause and effect. You touch a hot stove, you burn your hand. That's the original concept of karma, summarized and simplified. It's not "I did bad things in this life so bad things will happen to me in the next". That (mis)understanding is a simplistic and inaccurate definition.

"Wrong. Your understanding of karma is inaccurate and simplistic. Karma is Islam attacking the west and being annihilated in response. Cause and effect"