This Plato is a dhimmi of Kumbaya
Submitted by Plato (India), Feb 5, 2007 at 00:29
"Noah, I thought you knew your history. They have been fighting for 1400 years in their own backyards and there are still 1.2 billion of them or 2 billion if their claim is to be believed and growing."
that was our mistake, cut off all medical aid, nature will do the rest, there is simply not enough resources in those lands for that number.So what do you suggest? pray for dhimmitude?
I won't exactly say pray for fortitude, but suggest you stay your hand a bit longer before you rap their knuckles hard. "Hear me praying, Lord, Kum ba yah!
"Very relevant. You brought in the topic un-Americanism (shades of MCarthy?). If you can invade America and reform (obliterate) the Red Indians why should the Muslims not believe that they can launch a migratory attack and reform (convert) the presents owners of that land mass."
let's suppose for a second that USA is illegaly occupied and australia too, what about europe? it consists of native europeans yet the muslims are willing to loot it too. your analogy fails miserabily. Oh and add south east asia where muslims don't belong, and china.
All I am pointing out is that since Europeans are now the tenants in those continents they claim five points of law. So can the Muslims now already there or anywhere for that matter. "Someone's laughing, Lord, kumbaya!"
"What if the surviving Red Indians demand the new occupants go back to where they came from a la your demand at the Muslims go back to Arabia or wherever. "
is your kumbaya group telling you that the muslims are natives of america and europe? well newsflash for you, they are not.
the only land they can claim as theirs, although taken with bloodshed, lies and deception is the arabian peninsula.
My local kumbaya group is telling me that the whites, blacks AND muslims are recent imports into those countries and replaced the local human fauna. And is that your legal, political or cultural reasoning?
"I believe you are not responsible for your father's crimes."
so the crimes of the muslims are by their "fathers"? I believe more of the children.
You are also learning from the Muslims. Jump to a conclusion that suits you. And also let me bring the context thing so beloved of muslims. You should read the sentence you have picked up (or at least that was my intention) with the foregoing sentence to get the meaning I intended, ie the present occupants are not responsible for what their fathers did: "Nor would I, considering the damage that would result. I believe you are not responsible for your father's crimes"
"Your ancestors were very un-American in the way they went about decimating populations in the Americas, Australia and New Zealand. "
still failing to address the hunger muslims have to get back sicily and spain... still wasting time talking about americas
Perhaps you have not noticed but I am not here to encourage Muslim aggrandizement. Quite the opposite. We seek almost the same end but I disagree on your favoured means. "Someone's laughing, Lord, kumbaya!"
"The Bible, which you don't believe in and which your ancestors were great believers in and most probably referred to when they went about scalping, if you examine its old parts, has enough to curl your toes, like dashing out babies brains (Deuteronomy?)."
the bible is written by men by inspiration of god, very different to have a book that's the exact word of the moon god. The bible no matter how many fake examples you have, was never meant to be taken literally.
The part about' literally', tell that to the Bible thumpers. Sure the Koran thumpers thump louder and are thicker on the ground
That passage is often taken .... Yet the problems of today are not caused by christians.
The problem I agree on, the solution not
nt. I apologise if I gave you the impression I was a citizen on the USA. "Someone's singing, Lord, kumbaya!"
"Like the Muslim context trick the Christians have managed to explain all those nasty passages away by some absolutely amazing logic, which is all to the good. Now the Muslim texts claim direct descent (or is the same as the real original the Koran claims) from your ancestors' scriptures. Why can't you accept that there is a chance that Muslims of the future can also turn around and look at their ancestors beliefs with bemusement if not amusement."
because for this little detail you fail to note, one book is written by man, inspired by god, the other is the exact word of god. There is no reformation on the second....
Certainly as the tablet preserved in heaven there can be no reformation in the usual sense, but given the number of tafsirs and the various translations and the out-of-context tricks something close to reformation is a distinct possibility, and I believe it is happening, my Kumbaya group tells me. "Someone's laughing, Lord, kum ba ya! "
"But let me recall a little incident that happened in India quite recently. A Muslim girl was raped by her father-in-law. The ulema went into a huddle and consulted each other and their scriptures and came up with a ruling that had all of India rocking. The girl was now the lawfully wedded wife of the rapist! Muslims in India were aghast. Religion can befuddle you but stuff like that become wake-up calls for even the most befuddled. Fundamentalism carried to the extreme is self-defeating. That is what is happening in the Muslim world. Unless stupidity is a disease peculiar to only those who were, are or become Muslim."
the sound of muslim protesting around the world is deafening. I might lose one ear.
From now on keep your good ear close to the ground and you might hear something. What is considered good news in one country is not necessarily broadcast in others
"And the Muslims don't just believe they are blessed by god but are his chosen people."
and dhimmis like yourself are there to remind them of this
Yes we like to remind them of the activities of the chosen people and let THEM decide whether it is god or satan who has chosen them
"Thank you Noah, Susan we need you. "why? dhimmitude is such a good place.
You have the very attitude we are looking for in hawks
But remember that me and noah would gladly do less than people like you. What can I do? I cannot stand dhimmies.
Us pathetic, wishy-washy, foolish, dishonest liberals can stand all types, including your type whatever that is.
Hey Susan, are we having a game of one-upmanship here or are we trying to discuss a serious issue, the problem of Islam's drive for world domination, not unlike the Communist drive just a few years ago. Okay, with that I just asked to have my keyboard fingers squashed, but then I am a blogging masochist, so squash away. Ouch! Ouch! Gimme more! "Oh I need you, Lord, Kum ba yah!"All that sneering contempt for liberals only helps thicken our skins. Anyway, plato, if you dislike western civilization, usa's past or christianity you are free to leave. I bet USA gave you anyway a wealthy life and good income to be able to live anywhere else you wa.
(Plato is in bold)
I begin with an invocation as required by my local Kum ba ya group: "Kum ba yah, my Lord, Kum ba yah! Oh I need you, Lord, Kum ba yah!
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