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Submitted by Noah Wilk (United States), Jan 12, 2007 at 07:24

Wrench wrote:

"You dismiss most of my ideas, admittedly only a very rudimentary catalogue of potentially feasible approaches to a variety of concerns and "threats" quite nonchalantly"

Well of course I do. You're quoting the same old tired "solutions" that we've all heard a thousand times before and which we have seen simply do not work. Thrpwing more money at the Muslims, trying to appease them, trying to reason with them...these approaches do not work because they are a tribal people and mentally/emotionally quite different from Westerners.

"Do you honestly believe your ban and deportation to be a feasible, pragmatic strategy, considering the political, economical and cultural prerequisites?"

If the American people wised up and learned to look at reality and have the backbone to do what needs doing, yes. Unfortunately, our society has been emasculated, indoctrinated, and brainwashed to the point where they are more concerned about who wins on (the tv show ) Survivor than they are with the survival of their country.

"Not a chance in hell, would such ever be entertained by any Western Government or people, nor could it work."

We rounded up the Japanese during WWII, did we not? Many of the Founding Fathers and many of our presidents up to and including Lincoln himself advocated and campaigned for rounding up blacks and shipping them back to Africa. Nobody likes to face those facts though. Anything can be done, if the will to do it is there. And it would certainly work.

"Fully totalitarian regimes with the corresponding evil apparatus of oppression have tried that in vain and ended up with an "Underground", revolution, civil war and finally collapse of their own regimes. Deportations of anywhere between 10 to 40% of the population depending on the country? Dream on, friend."

I am not concerned with other countries, only my own. And in America the percentage is something like 0.6% Muslim. Nowhere near 10%.

"Sorry, if that offended you."

It didn't offend me, I just found it inaccurate and thus uncalled for.

"But reading the various responses, I could not help sensing a very negative, paranoid, highly emotional attitude towards the topic, to say the least."

First, one should be highly emotional about the issue. We are, after all, talking about the future of our country and freedom worldwide. We are talking about the lives of our children and grandchildren. Apathy is the problem, not emotion. And it is not a paranoia on our part, but rather an intelligently thought out response to a clear and present danger, a threat that we understand all too well.

"If that is not hatemongering - what is?"

Hatemongering is hating something or someone for no reason. Hating African Americans simpy for being black, for example. Hating an evil ideology such as Islamism and wanting to destroy it is not hatemongering. If Muslims reformed their religion and became peaceful and civilized, I would welcome them with open arms, just as I would welcome with open arms those Mexicans who come here to assimilate and become actual Americans while strongly opposing illegal aliens who come here to subvert.

"I'll admit, it goes both ways, but before I start patronizing the other side, which is anyhow not very well represented here, we should tone down our own language first. Wouldn't that be refreshing?"

Not really. What would be truly refreshing would be if people ditched the political correctness nonsense and started telling it like it is, minus the sugar coating and hypersensitive euphemisms. Islam is a death cult, period. It worships death. Muslims pray for death, they idolize and martyr their own children when they engage in acts of barbarity, committing all sorts of atrocities. It does no one any good to call it a "religion of peace" or even a "religion" at all.

"There is a thin line between forcefully confronting and slandering, This line has been crossed here in this Blog by representatives of the so called Civilized, democratic western world intelligentia, more often, than I feel comfortable with."

First, the word you are looking for is "libel", not "slander". In most legal systems, statements must be false, as well as harmful, to be considered "defamatory" (which applies to both slander and libel). Some jurisdictions also require that the statement must not only be true, but also in the public interest in order to avoid being slanderous or libelous.

Considering that, none of my statements are either slanderous or libelous. They are provably true, they are in the public interest (ie it serves the public good for those facts to be known).

In specifically American law, for a statement to be considered libelous or slanderous, the statement must be proven to be untruthful and it must also clearly be made with "actual malice", ie knowledge of falsity or with reckless disregard for the truth.

Once again, my statements pass the test and are not slanderous nor libelous.

"You call a fundamental fact of life, the pursuit of happiness, security, safety, stability, prosperity, self-preservation in light of basic human needs throughout history "migratory attack?""

You do not understand the difference there. It is one thing to come to America, learn to speak English, assimilate into our culture, and swear allegiance to America. A migratory attack is a term I coined to define what is being committed by both Muslims and Mexicans here in America. In both cases, there is a refusal to assimilate, there is a higher allegiance to a foreign country than to America, a disregard for our laws and ways of life, and an inherent intent to force their ways over ours. Those actions are in no way similar to immigrants who come here legally to become Americans.

"All the Hispanics in California who will by sheer numbers eventually become the majority (soon) are therefore organized under one guiding conspiracy to conquer it?"

I take it you've never heard of LaRaza, MeCha, and the Aztlan movement.

"All immigrants who came in large numbers planned to take the host country over?"

Not all immigrants, but several distinct groups, yes.

"Is a bunch of individuals trying to escape oppression, poverty and misery and try to get a better life all of a sudden an organized movement , trying to topple the Western World from within? I think your paranoia gets the better of you and you give normal human beings way too much credit."

I see that you're ignorant of reality and current events. Perhaps you need to look more closely at LaRaza, Mecha, the Aztlan Movement, etc. Perhaps you need to look at the polls that show the vast majority of Mexicans (both legal and illegal) in America considering themselves primarily and first Mexicans, and not Americans. Perhaps you need to look at the illegal tactics these people use to be here, and how they disrespect our laws, our culture, our people.

As Frank Drebin said: "Truth hurts. Not as much as jumping on a bicycle without a seat, but it hurts."

:-)

"Sorry to be sarcastic, Noah, just not feasible – hence let's talk about somewhat pragmatic solutions."

It is feasible. It simply takes people willing to do what needs doing. Unlikely, but feasible and workable. Also effective in the extreme.

"Okay? And now what? Can we do something about it? Of course we can. Our decadence, laziness, obesity self-hatred, passiveness can be worked by a variety of means I have outlined in other posts."

The problem is lack of motivation. Where will the lazy masses in America get motivation from? I suspect we'd need a nuclear terrorist attack on an American city to shake John Q. Public out of his hyponotic, television induced trance.

"Assuming that your quote is true, I laugh it up as oddity or joke."

Again, a dangerous stance to take when dealing with such subversives.

"Can't be taken seriously or considered a risk, as that would be considered as one deranged individual who most likely will not make a second term, if he continues to make such statements."

Wrong. It must be taken seriously, and it is a risk. This is a perfect example of both the erosion of our culture and the revisionist history and propaganda that is emasculating and stupefying our people. The problem is that most people are both too stupid and too preoccupied to realize that he's engaging in revisionist history. They'll vote for him again simply because he's black, Muslim, and a Democrat, just like they did the first time...mindlessly and by force of habit.

"The real and serious test is the first Western Country with a Muslim Majority, not one single individual in public office."

We can't afford such a test. Are you willing to sacrifice an entire civilized country simply because you're too stubborn to acknowledge reality? Look at Israel and Britain, two free countries where Muslims enjoy more freedom than they would in any Islamic country on earth. And look at how they act there. Why do you persist in denying reality? Does it scare you? It should! However, the proper response is not to deny it, but rather to confront it.

Please answer the following question either with an example or with a response of "I refuse to or am unable to respond to that".

Show me an Islamic country, or any country where Muslims dominate, where there is no problem with terrorism, where rape is not rampant, where freedom and education are not stifled and suppressed, where religious intolerance is not rampant, where murder is not glorified, and where conditions compare to civilized western countries.

Can you manage that?

We don't need put the future of our country and our children at stake for the sake of a silly, misguided, unnecessary, and dangeous experiment.

"I dare to venture that the Netherlands will never implement Sharia Law, no matter what. It' s going to happen during our lifetime, so we'll find out , who is right."

The issue is not whether Sharia law is instituted. Remember, in the investigation of the Islamic terror murder of Theo Van Gogh (for making a film critical of Islam), they uncovered an Islamic network dedicated to destroying their government. Muslim leaders there refused to shake the hand of their Intergration Minister because she is a woman. This is how Islam acts towards other countries. The first stage is to effect mass migration and become a powerful demographic force. The second is to exert both political influence through that demograpic force and via intimidation and force, taking advantage of the weak will of most westerners. The final result is a defacto or outright Islamic take-over.

"As opposed to you I try not to use the word "THEY". Some of them may hate us, some of them do what you mention, those need to be opposed. By opposing all of them without distinction, even those many silent ones who never stand up - you will make many out of some."

I already covered that. Those silent Muslims who refuse to reform their religion, who sit by idly while their fellow Muslims enact terror and devastation, and who support such actions via monetary, emotional, or political support are just as guilty as the actual terrorists lighting the bombs. We have seen that most Muslims are both silent on the issue, and also supporting in one way or another of terrorism.

"And - stop talking about this so called non—stop terrorism. When I open the newspapers, I see gang and drug related shootings every single day. Organized crime related stories. Where the hell are these non stop (home-grown) terrorist attacks? Tell me – how many attacks with how many deaths have we seen here in the US since 9/11? What's the kill rate vs the 10k violent deaths/year in the USA? It is because the Islamic terrorism is mainly imported, hence can be defended against, why homegrown Islamic terrorism is currently inexistent in comparison."

Again, I have covered this repeatedly. Why do you insist on going over it again and again? I don't feel like wasting time repeating myself anymore. Go back and re-read my earlier responses that explain why they are not committing suicide bombings and other daily atrocities here in America.

"In a way you contradict your own logic. Monitoring any religion for what it preaches, some form of revision of Freedom Of Speech, strictly enforcing separation of Church and state is impossible - yet banning ISLAM and deportation of its many followers is your solution? Given potentially more attacks in the future my idea has at least a slither of a chance and legitimacy."

I'm not saying it's not possible, I am saying that it would be ineffective. We would literally have to bug the homes of Muslims and the various Muslim mosques, maddrassahs, restaurants, etc. And when we heard their hate speech, we'd have to deport them anyway. I say just skip the whole drawn out messy extra step and just get on with the deportation. They've had more than half a decade since 9/11 to reform their religion and nothing has been done. Let them get out, go back to their Islamic countries, reform their religion, then talk to us about being allowed to return.

"I agree, Noah – it would take an integral, fundamental media, educational and legislative assault on our decadence, an outright revolution indeed. But as opposed to you I am not yet willing to simply give up and state, it's hopeless. This mountain can be sliced up and tackled from various sides."

The problem is, we do not have the time. I fear only a very ugly and bloody revolution can save America from ultimate decay, and even then we have very little time for such a revolution to be effective.

"I agree with you on the illegal immigration. Mexico being engaged in a subversive migratory attack is a conspiracy theory you can not prove."

I can indeed prove it. Mexico refuses to do anything about the illegal mass migration. The government of Mexico (and now our own government as well!) is complicit in this crime by actually aiding the illegals and giving them aid, advice, and assistance. The Mexican military is even helping! Illegal aliens and the money the send back to Mexico is their country's #1 source of income, topping even oil sales and tourism. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to put two and two together. Especially when you have Mexican politicians publicly stating that Mexico will take over the USA.

"That's just too simplistic. People turn to religion in a fanatic, militant manner, when they have nothing else to give their lives meaning and purpose."

It's not too simplistic. There are plenty of Christians living in abject poverty with no hope, yet we don't see them becoming international terrorists, do we? What about the Tibetan Buddhists? They don't engage in terrorism against the world in response to the crushing poverty and suppression imposed on them by China. Once again, the seed is Islam.

"Acknowledging distinctions and shades within the global Muslim community with distinctive conclusions and reaction from our side is imperative. Distilling the root causes down to ISLAM as a religion is not only naïve but outright dangerous."

Once again, Islam is the issue. If these so-called "moderate" Muslims want to be judged differently and independantly of the terrorists, then they need to dissociate from and denounce terrorism and Islamic fundamentalism. They need to force reform on their religion. Otherwise, they are just as much a part of the problem as the actual terrorists.

"The conflict, as we see it today , is a mess, we created, hence we have a moral obligation to help resolve it."

Wrong again. That mess was created because the Muslims were patholocially opposed to the Jews having their own homeland in a traditionally Jewish land. The arabs were greedy, racist, and intolerant. That is where and why the conflict started. Compare the amount of land Israel occupies to the amount of land that Transjordan (now Jordan), Saudi Arabia, and other Muslim countries got in that deal. The Muslims simply do not understand the concept of peaceful coexistence. Never have. Never will.

"How? – I am clueless, as that car sits so deeply in the sand, it would take a mammoth to pull it out."

I'll tell you how. By moving all the so-called Palestinians back to their original country, Jordan. By killing all the terrorists and terror supporters in Israel. By letting those Muslim countries know that any attack on Israel will result in a retaliatory genocide against the Muslim countries involved. As much as they worship death, they still fear non-existence.

"Once again you tell me, why it ain't gonna work and then stop there without a constructive idea."

I'll give you a constructive answer. We immediately stop all aid to Muslim countries (humanitarian aid, monetary aid, military aid, etc). Not a single penny, not a single bullet, not a single vial of medicine or even a Band-Aid goes to them. We back Israel fully and without apology. We inform the Muslims that they must reform their religion and become civilized if they want to ever have anything to do with the west. We deport all Muslim from our country and force them to go reform their own homelands along with their religion. We inform them that any major act of Islamic terror against the West will automtically result in the immediate, mandatory, and unhesistant annihilation of Islamic "holy sites" and population centers. Riyadh, Tehran, Amman, the Aswan Dam, etc. The only thing Muslims love is their religion, and if we take out their holy sites and their population centers, their religion becomes non-existent. That they fear.

"The Marshall plan and substantial rebuilding support after only a generation led to a populus we proudly called allies."

I'd hardly consider the Germans our "allies" considering how often they vote against us and undermine our efforts in the UN. They vote against us 45% of the time and have undermined our efforts in recent years by allying with Saddam in secret along with France and Russia. America has few true allies in the world.

"Why not try that and follow through with Jordan or Turkey?"

We have also funneled BILLIONS of dollars into Egypt, and that has not changed their anti-American hatred one bit. Fully 88% of Jordanians last year said they support violence against civilians. Why associate with such monsters?

"Why not give it a chance to let Turkey integrate with the EU and start some form of positive domino theory?"

You're naive in the extreme to believe that Turkey deserves EU status. Turkey committed the Armenian genocide (1.5 - 2 MILLION dead) and that's why Turkey is now mainly Muslim. The best-selling books in Turkey are Mein Kampf and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. That tells us something! Turkey is an Islamic nightmare just waiting to explode.

"Could not agree more with you. I am afraid it will take several disasters like 9/11 or indeed an Iranian freak show to get them to see the necessity for solid defense forces again. The decadence, pacifism, sick liberalism and appeasement in Europe has so far progressed, that even I as eternal optimist ( and former European) do not see much hope anymore."

Sad, isn't it?

"I disagree. Israel can not and will not allow IRAN to obtain nuclear weaponry. It's a matter of sheer self-defense and survival. I expect a preventive potential nuclear (subsurface bunker busting tactical nuke) strike within the next 5 years, if diplomatic pressure does not yield any results. Israel is running out of options quickly and, if they have to make a choice between UN resolutions and worldwide condemnation and their survival as a country, you be the judge, as to what they will do. (Can't blame them, by the way)"

I've lost my faith in Israel. They seem to be doing everything in their power to destroy themselves. I fear they simply will not have the backbone to pull the trigger when it needs pulling.

"Saudi Arabia is as decadent as any western country. The regime could easily be toppled from within."

Yes, but the regime is all that stands between its current state and it becoming an open enemy to the USA. If the fat-cat rich Arabs running the place are removed, then the country will fall into openly radical hands and will become an even more virulent enemy than it already is. The Saudi royalty is the cap on the powderkeg.

" They could be pressured in many ways to perhaps reform to some sort of constitutional monarchy a la UK."

In ways such as what?

"As far as Syria, IRAN and the likes are concerned, military intervention may be the only way to achieve short term objectives. The fractured western world however will not let that happen, I am afraid."

We should give Syria a warning to stop interfering in Iraq, and when they don't we should nuke them off the map. They have no defenses and would make a nice, convenient, easy example to the rest of the Islamic world that we mean business. Still, it would be better to take out a major player like Iran or Saudi Arabia first.


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dhimmi, READ YOUR OWN EVIDENCE FIRST [225 words]moderate MuslimMar 30, 2007 19:3088065
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The poor Arabic translation of Picktall another wannabe Arab! [446 words]dhimmi no moreApr 3, 2007 07:2688065
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noah [62 words]moderate MuslimApr 10, 2007 21:4888016
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Our dear M&M and cut and paste jobs Paki/Arabic and the bogus hadith! [522 words]dhimmi no moreMar 27, 2007 20:2387974
an addendum and my source for the hadith literary criticism [20 words]dhimmi no moreMar 28, 2007 07:0687974
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2Nothing's more fun than debunking "Muslim Logic" [2959 words]Noah WilkMar 23, 2007 21:1887720
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M&M and David Chappelle exposed [147 words]dhimmi no moreMar 25, 2007 09:1487720
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ok? [44 words]moderate Muslim-Mar 27, 2007 22:0087720
you just proved how ignorant islamphobes are [82 words]Islamophobic ignoranceMar 28, 2007 15:2687720
Precisely why we condemn you [380 words]Noah WilkMar 28, 2007 17:1887720
The little olive institute [32 words]dhimmi no moreMar 28, 2007 17:4587720
Our dear M&M and Yusuf Hamza's ancestry [25 words]dhimmi no moreMar 28, 2007 17:5187720
thanks.. [8 words]moderate MuslimMar 28, 2007 19:2087720
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we need ears to listen and eyes to see [252 words]Islamophobia no more...Mar 29, 2007 16:3887720
chechnya is sufi [20 words]susanApr 1, 2007 10:1487720
I dont think you get it (Ynna (tchkah) [129 words]moderate MuslimApr 2, 2007 19:2387720
and why? [41 words]moderate MuslimApr 2, 2007 19:2787720
Our dear Islamophobia no more and his little diatribes [48 words]dhimmi no moreApr 2, 2007 19:5487720
Congratulations for not going to work to CAIR [108 words]Ynna (tchkah)Apr 3, 2007 03:0287720
skewed perception of Islamophobes [138 words]Islamophobia no moreApr 3, 2007 03:0387720
africa's fault is african [146 words]susanApr 3, 2007 03:2287720
an Islamophobe [259 words]Islamophobia no moreApr 3, 2007 03:3287720
cair wants sharia [39 words]susanApr 3, 2007 03:3987720
More diatribes from our dear INM aka M&M [103 words]dhimmi no moreApr 3, 2007 18:4387720
YOU DON'T GET THE POINT [19 words]moderate MuslimApr 3, 2007 20:2787720
For our dear INM and what is an Islamophobe part deux [343 words]dhimmi no moreApr 4, 2007 07:5387720
no matter how you turn it [67 words]susanApr 4, 2007 14:5187720
nobody is irrationally vilifying islam [234 words]susanApr 4, 2007 15:0887720
sharia allows slavery [18 words]susanApr 4, 2007 17:3987720
Dropping names and Si, comprende mucho! [111 words]dhimmi no moreApr 4, 2007 17:4887720
fallacy of bias history-reading [108 words]Islamophobia no moreApr 5, 2007 01:5987720
islamophobia, the stupidest word ever invented [124 words]susanApr 5, 2007 16:3087720
Cair and other people [171 words]moderate MuslimApr 5, 2007 22:1587720
CAIR [374 words]Noah WilkApr 6, 2007 14:5587720
Why then do you support it? [290 words]Noah WilkApr 6, 2007 15:0387720
cair = sharia = stone age [70 words]susanApr 6, 2007 15:1987720
Noah [124 words]moderate MuslimApr 6, 2007 23:4087720
M&M CAIR (big time LOL) and his flawed logic! [344 words]dhimmi no moreApr 7, 2007 08:3787720
Yes, Moderate Muslim, you ARE responsible! [516 words]Noah WilkApr 7, 2007 16:4587720
ROTFL [44 words]dhimmi no moreApr 7, 2007 18:3787720
al-Shari3a [10 words]dhimmi no moreApr 7, 2007 18:3987720
CAIR and mockery [26 words]dhimmi no moreApr 8, 2007 11:4087720
i'll see [37 words]moderate MuslimApr 8, 2007 22:3487720
Why aren't moderate muslims standing up? [55 words]Bob SterlingAug 20, 2007 23:5187720
why should the west win anyways if it continues with its current programme of warmongering? [434 words]cocoMay 6, 2009 12:0187720
islam & terror [627 words]John EdwardsOct 27, 2009 15:1387720
so here are you answers more if you want em [29 words]moderate MuslimMar 20, 2007 19:3287302
Moderate Muslim fails again! [1415 words]Noah WilkMar 21, 2007 15:3287302
mauritania has got legal slavery, allowed in islam [15 words]susanMar 21, 2007 16:5787302
MM [230 words]JaladhiMar 21, 2007 18:0187302
handshake with Kuffar? "Muslim debate schemes" and other sordid matters! [599 words]dhimmi no moreMar 22, 2007 07:5187302
morocco 50% literacy rate [18 words]susanMar 22, 2007 10:0387302
"Muslim debate schemes"! part deux [452 words]dhimmi no moreMar 24, 2007 14:1087302
Dhimmi No More - defenders of the faith have left town!!! [40 words]JaladhiMar 26, 2007 16:5687302
Your answer Plato (which is a really bad name for you, because it dishonores someone who actually thought [169 words]Moderate MuslimMar 20, 2007 19:1887298
Was the post for me? [45 words]PlatoMar 21, 2007 08:3087298
Try paying attention, Moderate Muslim [570 words]Noah WilkMar 21, 2007 17:5587298
blatantly clear? LOL [178 words]dhimmi no moreMar 21, 2007 19:5087298
To MM: Would Mohammed be a good name for me? [130 words]PlatoMar 22, 2007 14:0087298
you guys hate the truth, dontcha [23 words]moderate MuslimMar 22, 2007 17:1087298
clarification [36 words]Moderate MuslimMar 22, 2007 17:1287298
No, Im not beyond help, although I dont need much [73 words]moderate MuslimMar 22, 2007 17:1587298
Free will in islam? LOL [379 words]dhimmi no moreMar 24, 2007 08:1587298
you like lies don'tcha? [148 words]susanMar 25, 2007 10:2187298
To Syed [17 words]moderate MuslimMar 16, 2007 19:3086570
LOL syed is asking for caliphate [8 words]susanMar 18, 2007 10:1686570
Syed? LOL He has no credibility! [172 words]dhimmi no moreMar 18, 2007 12:5086570
Syeds are not Iranians?? [83 words]JaladhiMar 19, 2007 17:1886570
What? [35 words]moderate MuslimMar 19, 2007 19:2486570
For our dear M&M and islam [73 words]dhimmi no moreMar 20, 2007 17:4886570
To Moderate Muslim: Spreading Islam by avoiding unpleasant facts [389 words]PlatoMar 22, 2007 13:3586570
Sure, Syed's the perfect choice [230 words]JeffMar 27, 2007 18:2386570
i wasnt..... [77 words]moderate MuslimMar 27, 2007 22:0286570
THE JOKE'S ON YOU (DHIMMI) [32 words]moderate MuslimMar 16, 2007 19:2786568
And your point is? [244 words]dhimmi no moreMar 18, 2007 12:4086568
You dont know me, you dont even care [110 words]moderate MuslimMar 19, 2007 19:3686568
avoiding the sex slaves matter [52 words]susanMar 20, 2007 16:1186568
Uno Questiono por legion of doom [36 words]moderate MuslimMar 16, 2007 19:2586566
To Moderate Muslim: Global warming a belief? [63 words]PlatoMar 17, 2007 23:1186566
The Official Stance of the Legion of Doom On Global Warming [59 words]Noah WilkMar 18, 2007 10:1786566
youre just not answering [43 words]moderate MuslimMar 19, 2007 19:2986566
heheh, thanks plato [25 words]moderate MuslimMar 19, 2007 19:3086566
You were indeed given an answer [209 words]Noah WilkMar 20, 2007 15:2986566
They're not scared [107 words]Noah WilkMar 20, 2007 15:3686566
sex slaves conspiracy [101 words]susanMar 20, 2007 16:1486566
?? [72 words]moderate MuslimMar 22, 2007 17:1986566
Yes, you are on trial [223 words]Noah WilkMar 23, 2007 18:5786566
islam is not on trial, it's already convicted [14 words]susanMar 25, 2007 10:2686566
heh please [45 words]moderate MuslimMar 26, 2007 19:1686566
Spain and Arabian imperialism and justifying the absurd [69 words]dhimmi no moreMar 27, 2007 20:4886566
spain? islam flourished? [2978 words]susanMar 28, 2007 02:5786566
Islam is peace [103 words]moderate MuslimMar 14, 2007 21:3686334
disproved [331 words]susanMar 15, 2007 16:2486334
Islam and violence and silence [116 words]dhimmi no moreMar 18, 2007 17:3486334
uh NO [7 words]moderate MuslimMar 19, 2007 19:2586334
Our dear M&M has never been to a madrassa! [81 words]dhimmi no moreMar 24, 2007 14:2286334
ALARMING NEWS - POLYGAMOUS MUSLIM IMMIGRANTS ARE WELCOME IN US WITH UP TO FOUR WIVES [211 words]Sofa SogoodMar 14, 2007 14:4586290
A Peaceful Muslim Country (oh my) [259 words]moderate MuslimMar 11, 2007 21:2185929
...muslim [492 words]susanMar 12, 2007 18:3085929
very poor example [255 words]susanMar 12, 2007 18:4085929
Dave Chapelle? and who the heck is he? And why should we like him or hate him for this matter [235 words]dhimmi no moreMar 12, 2007 19:3985929
MALAYSIA A PEACEFUL MUSLIM COUNTRY???LOL [110 words]MOROUSMar 13, 2007 16:5385929
Malaysia is Saudi Arabia of East [142 words]JaladhiMar 13, 2007 19:1385929
Talking points, pillars, quibbles, quotes, examples, and some words of wisdom from the kennedys. [972 words]moderate MuslimMar 13, 2007 19:3285929
MY EMAILS? [13 words]muslimMar 13, 2007 21:2385929
Malaysia is Saudi Arabia of East - Pt. 2 [133 words]JaladhiMar 14, 2007 16:2785929
The good ole pillars of islam! [84 words]dhimmi no moreMar 14, 2007 16:4385929
kennedy quote? [659 words]susanMar 14, 2007 16:4485929
why does everyone not get it [32 words]moderate MuslimMar 14, 2007 19:4085929
huh?? [339 words]morousMar 15, 2007 12:2285929
Our dear M&M and you ain't Muqatil [61 words]dhimmi no moreMar 15, 2007 20:0485929
To Morous-Clarify a few things [291 words]moderate MuslimMar 15, 2007 21:2585929
your clarification Moderate [664 words]MorousMar 17, 2007 11:4685929
one clarification: malaysia has got sharia law [41 words]susanMar 18, 2007 10:1985929
literal interpretation [68 words]susanMar 18, 2007 10:2285929
Reply to Reply : morous [116 words]moderate MuslimMar 18, 2007 17:1585929
women as humans? [31 words]susanMar 20, 2007 04:5185929
It's Back in your court MODERATE [616 words]MorousMar 20, 2007 13:2585929
Malaysia? [171 words]surjApr 20, 2007 22:3485929
More Answers (Aisha) (ra) [2787 words]moderate MuslimMar 11, 2007 21:0685919
aisha the child [103 words]susanMar 12, 2007 18:3385919
To Moderate Muslim: Hiding the shame of Aisha's age and a Maulana abrogates 9:29 [989 words]PlatoMar 13, 2007 01:1385919
3A'isha and real history! and playing with dolls! [648 words]dhimmi no moreMar 13, 2007 07:2885919
Lies will not change historical age of Aisha at the time of her marriage [157 words]JaladhiMar 20, 2007 15:4385919
The Ultimate Post- No Hiding, No Crying, Just Answers [8353 words]moderate MuslimMar 8, 2007 22:1385330
I'm cherry picking Moderate Muslim's huge post [2178 words]Noah WilkMar 9, 2007 04:1485330
For our dear M&M and his bogus command of Islamic theology [454 words]dhimmi no moreMar 9, 2007 18:0085330
To Moderate Muslim: Ethical basis of Islam and the thrashing of women by men [2001 words]PlatoMar 10, 2007 07:3085330
For our dear Moderate Msulim and what is really a moderate Muslim?And other sordid matters [885 words]dhimmi no moreMar 10, 2007 07:4085330
More Answers-To Dhimmi [293 words]moderate MuslimMar 10, 2007 13:2085330
Our dear M&M and he is really a "bait"? and Jihad or holy war revisited part deux [653 words]dhimmi no moreMar 10, 2007 14:1585330
moderate [592 words]susanMar 10, 2007 15:0185330
For our dear M&M and Q2:216 ...part one! [832 words]dhimmi no moreMar 11, 2007 09:2885330
dhimmi ... [26 words]susanMar 11, 2007 10:3985330
For our dear M&M and Q9:4 part deux! [541 words]dhimmi no moreMar 11, 2007 14:4185330
moderate Muslim [61 words]moderate MuslimMar 11, 2007 17:4285330
Condemnable Offenses. Controlling Men [91 words]moderate MuslimMar 11, 2007 17:4585330
you have no idea what a race is again [13 words]susanMar 12, 2007 03:3885330
M&M and more fantasy [262 words]dhimmi no moreMar 12, 2007 07:5285330
To Moderate Muslim: Fight to make your neighbours submit to Allah [179 words]PlatoMar 12, 2007 10:1585330
response to moderate muslim [555 words]morousMar 12, 2007 16:2585330
invented by modern people? [111 words]susanMar 12, 2007 18:3085330
yeah, so? [97 words]moderate MuslimMar 12, 2007 19:2485330
To Moderate Muslim: On rape and chopping off hands [583 words]PlatoMar 12, 2007 23:1885330
Uh no [17 words]moderate MuslimMar 13, 2007 19:3385330
the joke is on you morous [36 words]moderate MuslimMar 13, 2007 19:3685330
Hypocritical Muslim [56 words]Noah WilkMar 13, 2007 20:4385330
origins [183 words]dhimmi no moreMar 13, 2007 21:5885330
Racism! Really? [147 words]dhimmi no moreMar 14, 2007 12:3185330
i am 100% correct [57 words]susanMar 14, 2007 16:2285330
More evidence [47 words]dhimmi no moreMar 14, 2007 16:5685330
Hypocrisy - thy name is.... [46 words]JaladhiMar 14, 2007 17:3185330
Jesus is god? [26 words]moderate muslimMar 14, 2007 19:3185330
not quite making sense - at all [129 words]moderate MuslimMar 14, 2007 19:3785330
lies [30 words]moderate MuslimMar 14, 2007 19:3885330
His words? [226 words]dhimmi no moreMar 15, 2007 07:3985330
Muslims suppress free debate on anti Semitism at Leeds University, UK [163 words]DelboyMar 15, 2007 09:4985330
MM [135 words]susanMar 15, 2007 16:1485330
2My dear M&M and i'm glad that you asked and the Qur'an really says that Jesus is God! [93 words]dhimmi no moreMar 15, 2007 19:5985330
Uh what? [38 words]moderate MuslimMar 16, 2007 19:2185330
MM - Read Dhimmi No More's(who knows Arabic) posts to understand Q9:4 [92 words]JaladhiMar 19, 2007 17:4885330
Respond to what? [58 words]dhimmi no moreMar 19, 2007 20:1485330
For our dear M&M and the Qur'an really says that jesus is God and the bogus tawheed [140 words]dhimmi no moreMar 20, 2007 07:5185330
THAT'S NOT WHAT THE KORAN SAYS [22 words]MOROUSMar 20, 2007 14:0285330
The fundamentally faulty logic of the person called dhimmi no more [201 words]moderate MuslimMar 20, 2007 19:0185330
Astaghfirullah is M&M's lame answer [239 words]dhimmi no moreMar 23, 2007 07:2885330
Flat? Hardly [31 words]Moderate MuslimMar 25, 2007 21:5385330
ONCE AGAIN MODERATE, THE KORAN CONTRADICTS YOU [172 words]MOROUSMar 28, 2007 17:0885330
Hand Chopping and Adultery [74 words]Mukhtar Ahmed KashifJul 30, 2009 12:4785330
Why I am proud to be a member of the Legion of Doom! [354 words]Noah WilkMar 8, 2007 21:0985321
The wake up call [15 words]Moderate MuslimFeb 26, 2007 16:2579077
You're talking, but you're not saying anything, Moderate Muslim [499 words]Noah WilkFeb 26, 2007 20:3579077
PEACEFUL NATION? YEAH, COMPARED TO THE HUNS [53 words]Moderate MuslimFeb 28, 2007 07:3279077
homework for moderate muslim [155 words]susanFeb 28, 2007 15:3479077
MM, you very well described actions of Muslims [98 words]JaladhiFeb 28, 2007 17:4279077
mob muslim contradiction [97 words]susanFeb 28, 2007 18:1079077
to mod.muslim [145 words]AnnaFeb 28, 2007 19:3479077
Susan [507 words]Moderate MuslimFeb 28, 2007 20:3479077
For our dear M&M and more fantasy [371 words]dhimmi no moreMar 1, 2007 06:0279077
peace.. [125 words]donvanMar 1, 2007 09:1879077
YES [87 words]Moderate MuslimMar 1, 2007 19:5079077
Strive to forgive what? [15 words]dhimmi no moreMar 2, 2007 17:2279077
don't believe you [65 words]susanMar 3, 2007 12:4879077
Response to Susan [153 words]moderate MuslimMar 5, 2007 20:0779077
educated fanatics.. [14 words]donvanMar 6, 2007 15:0079077
Anti-Semitic propaganda from our "Moderate" Muslim [340 words]Noah WilkMar 7, 2007 12:5179077
so many mistakes again [263 words]susanMar 7, 2007 15:0279077
NOT ANTI-SEMITIC [177 words]moderate muslimMar 7, 2007 17:4279077

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