Reply to AS
Submitted by Syed Kasim (Canada), Dec 30, 2006 at 02:49
Reply to AS.
AS: dont club yourself with the east. islam is not east. it is middle east. though you have indonesia and malaysia under you. check the GDP nos of gulf nations. remove oil, yoy are at par with Africa. you wage war against ppl from the east too, and cunningly declare yourself a part of the east when faced against west.
Syed Kasim: Out of 1.5 billion muslims in the world, a good part of 1 billion are in the Asian continent which is the major part of the east. Only 20 percent of the 1 billion Muslims of Asia are from the Middle east. I think you also have the wrong idea that the Arabs are the only Muslims and Arabism is Islam. Islam dominated the world thru different world communities like African, Turkish, Mongol(Mughal) etc.. The biggest segment of World's muslims are from the Indian sub-continent(India-Pakistan-Bangladesh-Afghanisthan) which is more than one third of the world muslims. The economy of Muslims of Indian subcontinet along with that of Indonesia and Malaysia is way larger than the economy of the Middle east. The Indian subcontinent, Indonesia and Malaysia don't have oil. In the Middle Ages also the Middle east did not have oil, still they dominated the world. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_by_country
AS: Hitler also won elections. you know it, that your power is the liberal fart of the west. if that is defeated, you guys will be defeated the next day. i wish for Hitler like figures to rise in Europe.
Syed Kasim: I don't know what sort of liberal characteristic of the west you are talking about. Still Albania has been left the poorest country of Europe for the last 6-7 decades even while the people of the country accepted the irreligious your-so-called liberal ideologies (communism and liberal secularism) as ruling ideologies. At the same time, Australia which is 14000 kms away from Europe has been promoted as a developed country. The only disqualification found by the liberal west in Albania was its majority religious faith even while it is a white majority country and is in the European west community. So the liberal secularism knows/feels/discriminates based on religion. There are scores of Muslim majority countries outside the Europe having double the per capita income of Albania. It is real shamelessness for the West.
In the last 3 millenium the liberal west could not mingle with the east even when it colonised the east for more than a century. But the muslim east atleast tried successfully to some extent in the late Middle Ages to integrate the muslim east with the west.
AS: if legal rights are awarded to muslims in the west, then it can be rolled back. It just requries mass acceptance by ppl (which is a big task).
Syed kasim: You advocate for the west to have its own liberal Dhimmitude. Muslims living in the west are also the part and parcel of the west.I don't know what sort of mass acceptance you are talking about. One day will come in the near future in one or two decades - the west will be in desperate need of Turkey inside the European Union just to respond to the economic pressure from the east. Turkey is ready to integrate with other cultures but not the west yet.
AS: wait till China tramples you all one by one, just like Hulagu Khan did. ...they will take your oil, and wont be courteous enough like the west to pay for it.
Syed Kasim: You may think that China will dominate in each and every aspect of life in the Muslim world. It will only dominate in economy for a short period of time - may be 2-3 decades because it (China) does not have any of its own distinct universal political ideology to dominate the your-so-called Muslim east. Alexander won the 90 percent of the known world by his time. But his empire did not last even for few decades after his death. In the same way Mongols (Genghis Khan and Hulagu Khan) also conquered the 2/3rd of the known world thru destruction. But their empire did not last even for a century.
The same Mongol heritage was won by Islam thru Mughal empire and then they dominated the Indian subcontinent for 2-3 centuries thru Islamic ideology. Both Alexander and Hulagu Khan did not have their own distinctive universal political idelogies. That is why their empires did not last even for a century. The China is still the same. Sure there will be economy war between the west on one side and China, India and probably Russia on the other side. In that economy war, sure the Muslim east will tilt toward the China. So, mostly there is a good chance for the Muslim east to integrate with the East(China). So, how will China trample on the Muslim East when it is not identified by any viable universal political ideology so far?
Middle East Muslims are just 20 percent of the world population and more than 2/3rd population of the Muslim world are living under democratic governments. This is the truth.
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