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More on Islam with Mr. Tovey

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Submitted by Debanjan Banerjee (India), Sep 16, 2009 at 14:20

Mr. Tovey ,
This can be observed from your posts so far that you put all your arguments giving emphasis very passionately on a single point. That is something called "Hebrew Holy Bible". Now according to Christian belief concepts called "Trinity"(Father-Son-Holy Spirit) is of the utmost interest. This concept along with the concept of "Original Sin" are the only truths as par as evangelists like you are concerned.
But as par my knowledge goes in the Hebrew Bible in the ten commandments there are no such concepts as "Trinity" or the "Original Sin". According to Historical documents these concepts were invented much later by Christian theologians like Augustus for their missionary purposes. There have been similar kind of concepts found in Egyptian pagan mythology prior to or at the time of Jesus. So it probably can be said that these two concepts which are the two main pillars of Christianity are actually without any support from your own Holy Hebrew Bible's ten commandments.

So kindly tell me Mr. Tovey whether these fundamental Christian "TRUTH"s like "Trinity" or "Original Sin" are against Hebrew Holy Bible's basic commandments ?

Another one of your observation that Islam tries to substitute Bible is not supported by historical Islamic tradition. Prophet Mohammad never claimed that he is substituting earlier divinely revealed scriptures. His point is that the Quran justifies and proves all the TRUTH that is present in both Old and New testament. Prophet Mohammad always presented himself as someone who is just following in footsteps of the previous Jewish prophets.
There has been historical proof that Christian and Jewish opposition to the question of the prophethood of Mohammad has nothing to do with theology. This rejection was based on the fact that Prophet Mohammad came from an Arabic background and Arabs have always been considerd as barbaric savages by the Jews and Christians over the centuries.

Kindly answer Mr . Tovie were the Jews and Christians right in rejecting the prophethood of Mohammad simply because he was an Arab ?

The only point is that Muslims believe that both these two pre-Mohammad scriptures have been corrupted and fabricated by Jews and Christians over the years and since they can not be considered as reliable sources for understanding divinely inspired truth. One of the proofs to justify the above point that there has been several bloody schisms between Christians themselves on the issue of Jesus. And I believe as the age goes on none of these divisions between Christians over the status of Jesus is showing any signs of healing in fact we can see more and more schisms coming among Christians on this question almost every day. Even the episcopal church is showing signs of division now a days.

Now Mr. Tovey kindly answer me that if Jesus is the only TRUTH then why those who accept him as their personal saviour are always bitterly divided among themselves on the very nature of their own saviour ?

Another question is if Jesus has saved all of mankind through his holy blood because of mercy then why a particular human being can be saved from hellfire only on the basis that he or she has to accept Jesus as his or her personal saviour ? If Jesus is kind to all if the mankind then why is he is biased in favour of those who are his followers ? Is this the behaviour of a true , merciful saviour ? Kindly answer.

As par as ypur points regarding Jesus's influence on US constitution is concerned I have to say that the US has been involved in past in terrible incidents like the extermiation of native indians , the Atlantic Slave trade , Hiroshima and Nagasaky , Mai Lai Massacre , Guantanamo Bay etc
Kindly answer Mr. Tovey if Jesus is according to you the person who is singly most respensible for US constitution then should Jesus or his teachings should also be held responsible for these terrible crimes committed by Americans on the name of Jesus ?

If the moderators allow me to publish this post then I request Mr. tovey to kindly answer my questions.

Debanjan

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