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"havas", I give you credit for a lot of good intentions, but ...

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Submitted by kman (United States), Dec 6, 2009 at 23:52

Your "good intentions" don't face the reality of Islam wherever it gains control.

What you have to say about the wrongs of western civilization has a lot of truth in it. I won't quibble over one society's path towards self-enrichment over another's. My country and many other western countries have raped the planet of much of its resources while returning very little of any value, and turning its back on devastations of all kinds.

Immoralities take many different forms, but they all come down to the same thing - self enrichment at the cost of other's livelihoods. In the end, there is only one way to find justice. Man left to his own devices always corrupts everything he touches whether down the road or right at the beginning.

That only leaves one avenue of finding justice. One must look outside the human spectrum. We both realize what I'm talking about. I won't defend my country or any other for that matter. The United States, at one time, did a lot of good in this world, but has corrupted its initial guidance system.

So, what started the United States on the pathway of altruism and love for the rest of humanity? What was there at one time has been there in many different countries and civilizations since the inception of man. Man always has tried to take the reins into his own hands ultimately, and there begins the path towards corruption of God's intent for the human race.

Man has lead that alteration into many different directions of deceit, but the upshot is, again, corruption of God's intent. We're talking about what has been labeled "religion". One has only to trace the path of all religions throughout history to see what kind of value is inherent in the God of the religion. I won't even bother with any but Islam and Christianity.

Jesus Christ appeared on the scene about 2000 years ago and preached love first for God and then for one's neighbor – no limits on who is considered a "neighbor". He preached absolute adherence to God's principles of love, forgiveness, and truth. He displayed absolute power, but turned his back on it to accomplish God's intent of buying forgiveness for those who decided to obey and follow him.

God's perfection allows no sharing of the same territory between that which is perfect and that which isn't. Annihilation of the imperfect is inevitable. God had a solution. Man only had to accept it and the pathway towards his own perfection (unaccomplished is this lifetime) as taught by the prophesied Christ (Messiah). It's far more beautiful, broad, and deep than that.

A few hundred years after Christ's birth, death, and defeat of "death" (resurrection), a man named Muhammad entered into the territory and learned much of what Jesus taught. He started to teach the same, but then received all kinds of inner "leanings" that lead him on an alternate path. This man's life began to evidence the usual way of men who find themselves with a following, and made a 180 degree turn towards self-enrichment while still trying to preach Christ's teachings. He altered many of them to suit his own purposes. The Quran has a huge following because of Jesus elements in it. The big problem is that it is also hugely way off the whole intent of God.

A corruption of something beautiful is man's ultimate direction every time he takes his vision off God and onto himself. Muhammad's corruption of Jesus Christ's truths, love, and sacrifice have brought about an Islam that has wrought infinitely more horror, deceit, and wreckage amongst humanity than any other man or religion on earth. Find a truthful and factual rendering of history that isn't self-serving for any man (besides the Christ who was also, God), country, civilization, or race and the truth will literally jump out at you.

Stand by pride of race, nation, people, or any other human institution at the expense of the honest to goodness truth of the one God who loves the entire human race, and you will follow billions of other humans into the same damnation of hell. God provided the one and only way to gain eternal life in paradise. Note, I said "life in paradise". A "life" of sorts is eternal for every human, but the alternative to God's paradise leaves one in the absolute control of the angels (demons) that rebelled against God a long time ago. The head and most powerful of those demons is vastly powerful and hates God's highest form of creation – man. Damnation won't be pretty at all.

There is much of Islam that is good. "Good" isn't enough before God. A corrupted form of Jesus Christ's word is still badly short of the only route towards perfection that God has provided. A corrupted "truth" is still a lie.

You have many good intentions, but intent still leads in the wrong direction when the foundation, the basic premise is corrupted. Adhere to a prideful justification of "right" and "wrong" and your "good" intentions will end up sucking air in hell. If you choose an alternate to a perfect God's plan toward a perfect cleansing before Him, good intentions go nowhere. I don't say any of this out of any pride of myself, my country, or my race. Those are all irrelevant to the truth. Take your own honest look at the carnage of Islam throughout its history. No other religion holds a candle to the uncounted billions of deaths, rape, and torment wrought by Islam. There is nothing at all unusual about "good" humans buying into a lie. Good or not, the basic lie still leads to the same end.

Look for truth first. "Allah" does love you, but that isn't his name and the message attached to the wrong name falls far short of the perfect God who created all things and loved the highest level of that creation - you/me/us. Re-direct your goodness and ditch the pride of your geography for the sake of truth. Jesus Christ wasn't an American citizen or a white male (all of which I am). He was a brown skinned, brown or black eyed male born in the Middle East to a human female impregnated by God's Holy Spirit.

Give up any attempt to bring God down to our level or totally within the realm of human understanding. That makes Him less than God.

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