They're asking, because Ellison is a Westerner, and Turkey will join the EU soon, Turks are European, Westerners already, so how can you say theTurkish President and Congressman Ellison are enemies of the West when they are westerners?

What would be your response to this?

Kind Regards

Aliya

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Daniel Pipes replies:

Hiitler was a Westerner too, and he arguably did more to destroy Western civilization than anyone else in history.

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Fear not for the US [111 words]	Andy R	Feb 16, 2010 21:43
i believe..muslims in west stop complaining about minarets [77 words]	syed mohammad ali	Jan 31, 2010 05:59
↔ Strike up the band our dear Syed agrees with no minaret thing and as if anyone cares [469 words]	dhimmi no more	Jan 31, 2010 16:22
↔ Alllllllllllrighty then..... [50 words]	Chris	Feb 1, 2010 04:14
US"ONE OF THE LARGEST MOSLEM COUNTRY IN THE WORLD" [184 words]	b soetoro	Jan 17, 2010 09:45
keith ellison [30 words]	bary soetoro	Jan 12, 2010 22:15
What can we do to stop Islamism 2.0? [125 words]	skyhigh555	Dec 20, 2009 21:16
↔ Islamism 1.0 the virus then Islamism 2.0 is the anti-virus [195 words]	Andy	Dec 30, 2009 01:54
it is the frog in the slowly rising temperature example. 2.0 will kill us ! [232 words]	Phil Greend	Dec 14, 2009 03:13
↔ It is the frog in the slowly rising temperature example by Phil Greend [108 words]	Ramjet	Dec 27, 2009 09:29
I disagree. Communism 2.0 was out and quite successful decades ago [183 words]	joeblough	Dec 13, 2009 18:28
Muslim Intellectuals and Non-Muslim Intellectuals saythe same thing - word for word. [49 words]	Joe Black	Dec 13, 2009 03:16
↔ Of course jihad's agents want us tolerant of Islam [112 words]	Amillennialist	Dec 13, 2009 14:38
↔ you've made no point [111 words]	the Grand Infidel of Kafiristan	Dec 13, 2009 17:26
↔ Do you realize you repeated the same phrase without addressing the inverse? [190 words]	The mirror has two faces	Dec 14, 2009 03:54
↔ My humble opinion [169 words]	pdm	Jan 4, 2010 12:20
↔ appearance of peace [183 words]	the Grand Infidel of Kafiristan	Jan 7, 2010 17:23
↔ Muslim Intellectuals would NEVER defend the Exremists in Islam. Islam is Pure & Simple. [213 words]	Mohammad, CPA	Jan 19, 2010 23:21
↔ My humble Opinion-- You are quite Right on in your humble opinion.... Response to pdm [155 words]	Anne- USA	May 17, 2010 07:59
It's not "Islamism," nor is it a new version . . . [82 words]	Amillennialist	Dec 12, 2009 13:16
Gulen as Islamist 2.0? [28 words]	Lazman	Dec 11, 2009 00:11
↔ he is a man with immense wealth and buys whoever he wants [126 words]	yasem	Dec 11, 2009 12:59
↔ Is Gulen that powerful ? [w/response] [128 words]	Lazman	Dec 12, 2009 13:00
↔ He is not subtle. He only uses Islam. And the non-İslam powers back him [472 words]	yasemin	Dec 16, 2009 13:18
↔ what? [121 words]	the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan	Dec 19, 2009 01:27
Assimilation by force is a crime and to say, "what would you do?" is not an argument. [248 words]	yasemin	Dec 10, 2009 18:31
↔ Refusing to assimilate is also a crime [320 words]	Istanbul_Chick	Dec 12, 2009 11:48
↔ don't be so astonished [125 words]	the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan	Dec 12, 2009 17:24
↔ a very big village full of puppets is the dream, and every single person should resist that [663 words]	yasemin	Dec 16, 2009 12:22
↔ we agree on some issues [1499 words]	the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan	Dec 19, 2009 03:17
↔ so you think you can dance with capitalism and imperialism happily forever [48 words]	yasemin	Dec 20, 2009 17:18
↔ (mis)leading statements [223 words]	the Grand Infidel of Kafiristan	Dec 21, 2009 22:13
↔ p.s. [423 words]	the Grand Infidel of Kafiristan	Dec 22, 2009 15:31
↔ Muslims, when you are in Rome, behave like Romans. That is the very Right way to live & work. [231 words]	Mohammad, CPA	Jan 20, 2010 00:01
Absolute life and death power rests in local Mullahs [357 words]	Freedom from Fear	Dec 9, 2009 07:58
Theoreticians undermine the opponent's foundations [257 words]	B.N.Gururaj	Dec 8, 2009 08:01
↔ to B N Gururaj on Daniel Pipes [247 words]	AS	Dec 8, 2009 23:55
↔ No time for India! [133 words]	B.N.Gururaj	Dec 26, 2009 21:58
A question for Daniel Pipes [w/response] [93 words]	Lazman	Dec 7, 2009 14:52
Tariq Ramadan repeats the same error that most Islamists do [134 words]	P C Mani	Dec 6, 2009 22:28
Example of Islamists' hypocrisy [510 words]	Lazman	Dec 6, 2009 19:11
↔ Islam is the Religion for the Honest & Dignified people only. [225 words]	Mohammad, CPA	Jan 19, 2010 22:58
↔ Mohammed CPA: You claim honesty, give an honest answer to what Koran 9:33, 48:28 and 61:9 are telling Muslims [247 words]	Plato	Jan 25, 2010 22:14
The formula is too simple [173 words]	Mehmet Bülent Uludağ	Dec 6, 2009 14:36
↔ I wonder? [113 words]	Deniz Candas	Dec 9, 2009 16:30
↔ Swiss get what they want and you complain? [308 words]	the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan	Dec 10, 2009 04:30
↔ Reply to Deniz [443 words]	Istanbul_chick	Dec 10, 2009 04:47
↔ : ) [195 words]	Deniz Candas	Dec 11, 2009 21:36
lions on the hunt [79 words]	miriam	Dec 6, 2009 13:58
↔ World Lions Hunt Now - But Truth Waits for the Lion of the Tribe of Judah [550 words]	M. Tovey	Dec 9, 2009 14:26
Islam 1.0-2.0 are No Match for Fully Completed Version of The Hebrew Holy Bible [504 words]	M. Tovey	Dec 3, 2009 16:36
↔ Islam 3.0? Iranian Islamism with a Nuclear Message [176 words]	M. Tovey	Dec 7, 2009 18:19
america and eu,canada,australia some oil rich arabs are number one terrorist countries, china ,india ,russia are secondoray terrorists, [349 words]	havas	Dec 1, 2009 01:58
↔ our dear havas [647 words]	dhimmi no more	Dec 3, 2009 19:10
↔ looking for a scapegoat in the wrong direction [971 words]	the Grand Infidel of Kafiristan	Dec 3, 2009 22:20
↔ Mr. Havas' gripe [94 words]	the Grand Infidel of Kafiristan	Dec 3, 2009 22:45
↔ Loved your diatribe, Havas [1181 words]	Jeff	Dec 4, 2009 22:38
↔ some more muslims diatribe [459 words]	havas	Dec 5, 2009 06:48
↔ "havas", I give you credit for a lot of good intentions, but ... [1072 words]	kman	Dec 6, 2009 23:52
↔ they don't just disallow spires [1195 words]	the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan	Dec 7, 2009 03:17
↔ it is culture [562 words]	havas	Dec 8, 2009 07:56
↔ Sorry, but you promote compromise with no truth at all ... [743 words]	kman	Dec 8, 2009 23:17
↔ why does such a 'perfect' system create so many problems. [711 words]	the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan	Dec 9, 2009 02:36
↔ Still with us, Havas? [269 words]	Jeff	Dec 12, 2009 15:16
Versions of Islam [40 words]	Delta Mike 67	Nov 30, 2009 20:59
The good cop , bad cop routine [175 words]	Stuart Fagin	Nov 30, 2009 13:07
⇒ Widely circulated response on loonwatch.com to "Islamism 2" [w/response] [79 words]	Aliya	Nov 27, 2009 06:49
It's in progress in Indonesia [59 words]	El shaddai	Nov 26, 2009 13:00
↔ convert to islam [27 words]	bary soetoro	Nov 28, 2009 08:36
ISLAMISM 3.0 [231 words]	JACQUES HADIDA	Nov 26, 2009 12:41
↔ word or sword or what [127 words]	myth	Nov 28, 2009 03:58
WHAT DIFFERENTIATES ISLAM FROM OTHER RELIGIONS [146 words]	G Marcus	Nov 26, 2009 12:07
↔ Answer: WHAT DIFFERENTIATES ISLAM FROM OTHER RELIGION [384 words]	Mike Briggs	Nov 27, 2009 06:18
↔ Correction for G Marcus [303 words]	Dillah	Nov 27, 2009 06:25
↔ Judaism and Christianity have reformed but Islam has not [46 words]	Aliya	Dec 8, 2009 11:21
↔ Truth about Islam and American Policy towards Islam [184 words]	Albie	Jan 1, 2010 10:50
↔ Spread of Islam - Reply to Marcus [209 words]	Nozrul Hussain	Jan 2, 2010 12:49
↔ 5th column hypocrites [713 words]	the Grand Infidel of Kafiristan	Jan 3, 2010 18:23
↔ To: the Grand Infidel of Kafiristan (seems to know their role ... :) [740 words]	Nozrul Hussain	Jan 7, 2010 05:22
↔ a few small problems [1592 words]	the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan	Jan 8, 2010 07:39
↔ Give The West CREDIT Where It Is Due [81 words]	AnneM	Jan 13, 2010 07:50
the war & the new york times... [359 words]	d levy	Nov 25, 2009 20:27
the worst enemy of Turkey [184 words]	yasemin	Nov 25, 2009 17:14
↔ Turkey's Best friends not enemies. [64 words]	Oliver	Nov 25, 2009 21:19
↔ erdoğan [277 words]	havas	Nov 26, 2009 11:31
↔ Wher do you live Yasemin? [109 words]	Sulo	Nov 26, 2009 17:15
↔ religigious politics and political religious is facism [594 words]	yasemin	Nov 26, 2009 19:55
↔ power is nothing artificially gained and power is not powering others [191 words]	yasemin	Nov 29, 2009 09:16
Turkey's reducing of the Hadith's... [w/response] [97 words]	Dan Hare	Nov 25, 2009 13:33
↔ we are not the country to be used to change a religion [389 words]	yasemin	Nov 26, 2009 00:54
↔ Sharia [28 words]	Dan Hare	Nov 28, 2009 00:46
Knowing the enemy-1st rule of warfare [80 words]	Steve Borkowski	Nov 25, 2009 12:05
What is Islamism? [279 words]	Gerardo	Nov 25, 2009 11:25
↔ relationship violence to lawfulness in radical islam almost no different [174 words]	myth	Nov 26, 2009 05:47
↔ christianity is far more violent than islam [160 words]	havas	Nov 26, 2009 14:35
↔ Our dear Havas and the Qur'an a book that he cannot read in Arabic but that does not stop him from telling us that he knows what it really says! Go figure [439 words]	dhimmi no more	Nov 26, 2009 18:25
↔ re:"christianity is far more violent than islam." Ok no problem with your claim. [449 words]	klew	Nov 27, 2009 01:20
↔ Your kidding.......Right !?!?!?!? [43 words]	Timothy	Nov 27, 2009 15:08
↔ Re Havas - is it the people ? [210 words]	myth	Nov 28, 2009 04:15
↔ It is not so. [14 words]	Ton	Nov 28, 2009 17:06
↔ being a muslim [254 words]	havas	Nov 29, 2009 12:25
↔ havas: The Koran instigates Muslims to terrorise and commit crimes in verses 2:216, 4:74, 4:77 [752 words]	Plato	Nov 30, 2009 04:30
↔ re havas - accusations maybe a misunderstanding [285 words]	myth	Dec 1, 2009 05:52
↔ turks are armenians. [152 words]	havas	Dec 1, 2009 09:29
↔ Truly Uninspiring [256 words]	Sufi Muslim	Dec 1, 2009 18:50
↔ Our dear Havas who cares about North American Indians but not about his own ancestors the Armenians. [676 words]	dhimmi no more	Dec 2, 2009 09:07
↔ other people's grass always greener? [793 words]	the Grand Infidel of Kafiristan	Dec 2, 2009 15:41
↔ wake up ,"havas".Tell us the truth. [260 words]	surj	Dec 2, 2009 17:59
↔ Sufi Muslim: More about cruel, abusive or plain ridiculous verses [1430 words]	Plato	Dec 3, 2009 05:18
↔ Plato, why such animosity towards a book [243 words]	Sufi Muslim	Dec 5, 2009 03:52
↔ Teaching one Sufi at a time [1552 words]	dhimmi no more	Dec 5, 2009 09:44
↔ Plato - you know about Muslim hypocrisy!! [179 words]	Jaladhi	Dec 5, 2009 20:33
↔ no hatred involved. [875 words]	the Grand Infidel of Kafiristan	Dec 6, 2009 15:43
↔ Teaching one Sufi at a time and Sunni Muslims regard Sufi Islam as no more than Hartaqa part deux [983 words]	dhimmi no more	Dec 6, 2009 16:13
↔ Teaching one Sufi at a time and Sunni Muslims regard Sufi Islam as no more than Hartaqa part trois [804 words]	dhimmi no more	Dec 6, 2009 17:27
↔ Sufi Muslim: Animosity is not towards just any book, but a book which spews animosity towards all non-Muslims [1350 words]	Plato	Dec 6, 2009 23:41
↔ Dhimmi no more, why so angry [132 words]	Sufi Muslim	Dec 7, 2009 11:35
↔ look within [128 words]	the Grand Infidel of Kafiristan	Dec 7, 2009 15:38
↔ Our dear Sufi and his bogus context [353 words]	dhimmi no more	Dec 7, 2009 18:40
↔ Dhimmi no more, may you be satisfied [108 words]	Sufi Muslim	Dec 8, 2009 12:08
↔ Our dear Sufi cannot refute the fact that the Qur'an a book that he cannot read in Arabic is: text with no context [426 words]	dhimmi no more	Dec 10, 2009 16:49
↔ Selecting for our dear sufi [333 words]	dhimmi no more	Dec 13, 2009 14:36
↔ it just came in my mind [185 words]	Ahmad	Dec 18, 2009 09:00
↔ Yeah Ahmad/awliya [131 words]	klew	Dec 26, 2009 00:41
↔ Ahmad again [313 words]	Ahmad	Dec 31, 2009 02:11
↔ Ahmad's having a knee-jerk reaction without properly reading my post :D [567 words]	klew	Jan 2, 2010 00:42
↔ sanctimonious claptrap [866 words]	the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan	Jan 2, 2010 06:20
↔ Joining or fleeing? [161 words]	Ugri	Jan 4, 2010 02:54
↔ Consfusion between belief and application [100 words]	Sisyphus	Jan 9, 2010 08:46
↔ big mouth [35 words]	bary soetoro	Jan 15, 2010 01:48
↔ Whatever bary soetoro's smoking, I want some of that :D [54 words]	klew	Jan 16, 2010 01:18
↔ Our dear Bary and speaking of "big mouth" [202 words]	dhimmi no more	Jan 16, 2010 07:27
↔ The rise of Islam [11 words]	b soetoro	Jan 17, 2010 00:32
↔ 150000 moslems everyday [28 words]	b soetoro	Jan 17, 2010 01:21
↔ Soetero: Some interesting statistics for you [363 words]	Plato	Jan 17, 2010 21:05
↔ Muslim math! Read and enjoy [319 words]	dhimmi no more	Jan 18, 2010 07:28
↔ projection not to the past [60 words]	b soetoro	Jan 18, 2010 21:58
↔ Mr Soetoro please post the links! [42 words]	klew	Jan 21, 2010 18:38
↔ links [27 words]	b soetoro	Jan 22, 2010 18:49
↔ haahahahaha Mr soetoro, you're hilarious [214 words]	klew	Jan 23, 2010 06:08
↔ Our dear Bary says that 150000 human beings convert to the religion of the Arabs every day and his bogus sources! Read and laugh [277 words]	dhimmi no more	Jan 23, 2010 10:43
↔ Our dear Bary and Muslim math read and enjoy [264 words]	dhimmi no more	Jan 23, 2010 11:05
↔ Our dear Bary and more about Muslim math [247 words]	dhimmi no more	Jan 24, 2010 08:02
↔ Our dear Bary and Muslim math read and enjoy part duex [191 words]	dhimmi no more	Jan 24, 2010 13:48
↔ Christian sources also said Islam is the fastest [54 words]	b soetoro	Jan 24, 2010 13:52
↔ Our dear Bary and speaking of projections! For the readers read and laugh [224 words]	dhimmi no more	Jan 24, 2010 16:20
↔ If babies are born Muslim then 161,452 human beings abandon Islam every day! Thank God [194 words]	dhimmi no more	Jan 24, 2010 17:29
↔ Soetero: Allah has taught Muslims some strange math [368 words]	Plato	Jan 24, 2010 21:16
↔ Oh Muslim math again! [88 words]	dhimmi no more	Jan 25, 2010 07:39
↔ A sharp mathematical proof of the accuracy of inheritance versus in the Quran [48 words]	The Truth	Mar 28, 2010 17:36
↔ Our dear the truth and more islamic math [221 words]	dhimmi no more	Mar 31, 2010 07:21
↔ Truth: Does it take a computer specialist to interpret the Koran on inheritance? [240 words]	Plato	Apr 2, 2010 04:50
Frighteningly simple [84 words]	Rebecca Moulds	Nov 25, 2009 10:23
Islam is self destructive ..... [153 words]	Nuke09	Nov 25, 2009 09:54
The West must observe and prevent Islamist envelopment, whatever the versions, 1.0, 2.0 or 1.5! [151 words]	Isaac Haskiya	Nov 25, 2009 09:26
MARCUS' LAWS OF ELECTORAL DEMOCRACY IN MUSLIM COUNTRIES [109 words]	G Marcus	Nov 25, 2009 00:03
I don't like the word "Islamism" [110 words]	sheik yer'mami	Nov 24, 2009 20:56
↔ Do you have a preference? [45 words]	Tom Dundee	Feb 27, 2010 20:06
What of islamism 3 ? [99 words]	G.Vishvas	Nov 24, 2009 20:17
Any Guidance? [251 words]	Soda Jerk	Nov 24, 2009 20:13
↔ re Soda Jerk - one solution [162 words]	myth	Nov 26, 2009 05:59
Is islamism 2.0 a real problem ? [155 words]	Lars Nielsen	Nov 24, 2009 19:55
Small comment on the last paragraph [76 words]	Leonid Kaplun, Russian engineer	Nov 24, 2009 17:55
↔ benefits [124 words]	yasemin	Nov 26, 2009 02:13
↔ That's about it. [42 words]	Tom Dundee	Feb 27, 2010 20:10
↔ A good article regarding your quote [1002 words]	sara	Feb 28, 2010 11:55
↔ Thanks [36 words]	Tom Dundee	Mar 2, 2010 10:07
No Islamism 1.0 or 2.0 - just pure Islam!!! [73 words]	Jaladhi	Nov 24, 2009 16:23
↔ Jaladhi, you are absolutely right ! [46 words]	Anne-Marie Delcambre de Champvert	Nov 27, 2009 05:49
↔ Obama is Islamism 2.0 [22 words]	Wilks	Dec 1, 2009 12:24
↔ MUHAMMAD's LIVING MISERY ---- NO DOUBT [6 words]	alex saby	Dec 2, 2009 23:29

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