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havas: The Koran instigates Muslims to terrorise and commit crimes in verses 2:216, 4:74, 4:77

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Submitted by Plato (India), Nov 30, 2009 at 04:30

>>ı dont believe that there can be even one single muslim who can do terrorizm.<<

Your belief does not matter. What matters is reality, and the reality is that more Muslims are involved in terrorism than anyone else. Calling Muslims who commit crimes against humanity non-Muslims is a trick that will no longer work. We saw Muslims all over the world celebrate the twin tower attack. We see Muslims baying for the blood of Salman Rushdie, of Ayman Hirsi, Taslima Nasrin and others. If they are not Muslims why is there not a single fatwa from a prominent Muslim scholar declaring them apostates?? Why do Muslim preachers wander around freely preaching hatred of non-Muslims. How many preachers have you heard of being prosecuted for giving hate speeches in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan or even in the West?

>>there is nothing like hating nonmuslims ,killing randomly in islam. killing is strictly forbidden.<<

Such statements from Muslims bring out hoots of laughter from us. Read these verses from the all-Merciful Allah:

002.216 YUSUFALI: Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not. [FIGHT EVEN IF YOU DISLIKE IT]

004.074 YUSUFALI: Let those fight in the cause of Allah Who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fighteth in the cause of Allah,- whether he is slain or gets victory - Soon shall We give him a reward of great (value).

In verse 4:74 Allah is encouraging Muslims to sell their lives for the pleasures of the hearafter. Can this be a merciful creator of the world speaking? If you die you get paradise. If you are victorious you get booty the form plunder including men, women and children who are made into slaves

009.041 YUSUFALI: Go ye forth, (whether equipped) lightly or heavily, and strive and struggle, with your goods and your persons, in the cause of Allah. That is best for you, if ye (but) knew.

Allah is teaching Muslims what is best for them, which is to fight with their wealth and their bodies in His cause.

009.088 YUSUFALI: But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper.

In 9:88 Allah reiterates what He tells Muslims in 9:41

004.077 YUSUFALI: Hast thou not turned Thy vision to those who were told to hold back their hands (from fight) but establish regular prayers and spend in regular charity? When (at length) the order for fighting was issued to them, behold! a section of them feared men as - or even more than - they should have feared Allah: They said: "Our Lord! Why hast Thou ordered us to fight? Wouldst Thou not Grant us respite to our (natural) term, near (enough)?" Say: "Short is the enjoyment of this world: the Hereafter is the best for those who do right: Never will ye be dealt with unjustly in the very least!

In verse 4:77 we read of people asking Allah (aka Muhammad) why they are being ordered to fight and to grant them respite so that they can die a natural death. Allah (Muhammad) replies brutally that the hearafter is best for them and that if they die they will be given a good deal (paradise).

>>This widely accepted opinion that muslims are terrorists and kuran is full of criminality is created by western politicians ,because they need enemies, they need war industry and they need caotic geography. energy is a big reason also. why were the muslims good boys when soviets were there.<<

You read the verses I have quoted above which show you clearly the Koran is indeed full of criminality. The Western politicians did not write those verses which urge Muslims to fight for the pleasures of paradise. These are the kinds of Koranic verses that generate terrorists from among the Muslim masses.

>> it is the people who make the religon good or bad.not the other way.<<

What you say about people making the religion good or bad is true of other religions. But with Muslims it is Islam which makes its followers bad. You read the verses I have quoted above 2:216, 4:74, 4:77. These verses are clearly instigating Muslims to create havoc in the world and many do.

Regards

Plato

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