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Submitted by the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan (Australia), Dec 19, 2009 at 03:17

Yasemin writes:

"..........First, I am not non-Mouslim, "

And yet you live in Turkey? I'm so very, very surprised.

"in contrary I prefer to be a Mouslim. "
'prefer' implies informed choice and lack of subtle let alone, overt coercion though. So you're in a little bit of a dilemma.

"But I'm also very happy living in a country that is secular. "
Yes - as truly secular as Turkey demonstrably is.

"....To be a Mouslim means to be innocent in every aspect. No lies, no killings, no theft, no explotation, not to be arrogant, instead share your wealth, your food, and if you are not good to people Allah does not accept any of yor prayers and worships. This is the essence."

And so it is with the ideals of all religions - yet muslims consider there particular brand to be superior.

"Islam is supposed to improve accordingly to the human development."
So what went wrong?

"Kuran says, Allah gave you mind, who does not use it is not a good Mouslem. "
Question - are the people using their knowledge of electronics to turn mobile phones into detonators for bombs and improvised explosive devices to be used in their imagined service to allah - good muslims?

'......Sheriat laws were meant to improve the social life, to improve the status of women (who were treated lower than animals in those days) to a better being, (now none can be acceptible ofcourse, it is really written in what circumstances can women be beaten-so that they would not be beaten to death as it was then etc.) the trade relations and so on - OF A COMMUNITY LIVING IN THOSE PLACES AT THOSE TIMES."

What you are implying then is that women are NOW treated fairly in Islamic communities? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2EFCYc2JhY&feature=related

Yet still we see muslims promulgating those same laws - because the Koran is 'perfect' and Muslims everywhere are still trying to emulate the life of the 'perfect man'. Better for you to tell this to those people affected by and living under this fundamental misunderstanding - rather than to try to make excuses for poor behaviour to bemused Westerners.

"Instead of the essence, taking nonimproving rules as the centre of your life is far away from using your mind."
yes - robots too perform rule-based behaviours.

"Belief is between you and God. In Islam one of the greatest revolution compared to all previous religions is that THERE IS NO RELIGIOUS PRIESTHOOD between the person and Allah."

You mean that sheiks, muftis , imams and ayatollahs don't really exist ? (as distinct from just being meaningless non-entities). Who are those people I see on TV wearing the funny costumes and hats then? Often exhorting thousands of people at mosques etc to shout in unison 'death to America', 'death to Denmark, 'death to Israel ' , death to 'etc

'You are always all alone with Allah in your heart.'
Of course you're always alone. You must have heard the saying 'We're all in this together, alone.'

'And dieties are strictly forbidden.'
Wasn't allah a deity? (Question - is Jenny Craig, the weight-loss goddess - a diety?)

"So much forbidden that it turned into prohibiting paintings and sculptures (again an exaggerated decision, far from the real objective)."
So you agree that Islam is not perfect - that a LOT needs to change?

"The religious personalities are allowed only to teach. That is all."
Like Sheik Chaudhary
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u38g2XhEuMw&feature=related

and Omar Bakri mohammed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRYARwdcB40&feature=related

presently jailed in the UK etc. Or the local clown, Sheik Hillaly here in Australia,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma5N63C88Gc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DKEOLDmuoo&NR=1

teaching amongst other absurdities that western women are uncovered meat and that it is all their fault when they get raped by muslims (who would never dreamm of raping a muslim girl).

Or other apopleptic figures such as

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj29Df-fy5M&feature=related

and the entities expounding their message of love, tolerance and enlightenment shown in clips such as

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocU5x_03MDM&feature=related

The point is - it is what they teach that counts.

" Other purposes are strictly forbidden. No one can represent you in front of Allah and ifever any one claims that he or she is the worldly representer of Allah's wishes he has done the worst sin according to Kuran."
So you mean when the imam exhorts 'death to the USA' , 'death to Israel' etc - this is NOT really what allah wants after all? And that these people have misunderstood the true meaning of the prevalent and venomously anti-semitic, anti-infidel passages in the Koran?

" A person should obey only and only to Allah."
And not a legalisticly follow a human created book http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUCiSGodWK0&feature=related and not the counterfeit voices in his/her head which masquerade as coming from a divine source - nor a stupid interpretation of a 7th century Bedouin belief system.

"But, what do we see now? We see people using Islam to control and exploit his community, with both roles; as the president and as the religious leader, in the non secular countries."
So Islam has left a gullible 'burak-believing' but perhaps well-intentioned majority (followers of the 'perfect man' - a 53 year old who slept with a nine year old girl) - pre-disposed to being totally deceived? I am totally shocked. How could this be?

"And, there is another truth now. Since the Western countries have imperialistic dreams and goals over the oppressed communities which many are ruled with Islam, when they oppose or contravene this hostility are only and wrongly regarded as religious opposition. And so it became true and the real resistants to imperialism are the Mouslim countries. The others try to zigzag around the problem."

If all the Islamic countries were somehow excised from the world - there would be no change to behaviour of the western countries. They do not seek to dominate or control the Islamic world. In fact - if you could just keep to yourselves - and let us keep to ourselves and don't try to impose your viewpoint or have your highly devoted but non-medicated devotees follow the mandate that your 'supreme religion' must cover the whole earth - then we would be quite happy

"If this goes on like that, İslam will be the only power which resist imperialism."
you forget Islamic imperialism - which it does follow,

" Then the community of those countries will have no opportunity tochange the sheriat laws, but instead will use all their power to resist the imperialistic savagery of the West. And some of the West loves to name it a religious war, to hide away their emperialist wishes and savagery. And... "
It's not a religious war at all - agnostics, atheists and religious people share a common perception. That they do not want their cultures affected by barbarism. If there was another cult or philosophy that was as insidious as Islam - it, too would be opposed. That has been demonstrated in the past. We're not picking on islam for islam's sake.

"and also, all the evil will look as doable to the Islamic communities since they are the ones who are killed by the bombs everyday in Afghanistan in Irak in Palastine and without any discrimination of innocent and children,"

They had 10 good long years in the 80's Iraq/Iran war to observe muslim on muslim bombs and other behaviour, remember. And currently still in Darfur, Pakistan , afghanistan etc

"The world has a new turning point; The effort of the powerfull countries and leaders to make all the people of the world as similar as carbon copies."

Greed knows no bounds and certainly that is the motivation behind globalism . It is supported by filthy rich arab sheiks as well as by western interests

" The same way of living, the same thoughts, the same beliefs, the same way of consuming, the same food, the same education, the same games, the same understandings about anything, the same children, maybe no children, controlled population, controlled behaviours, controlled entertainment, controlled reading, controlled talking, controlled internet, controlled art.... i.e a very big village full of puppets."

They are cunning enough to make it appear that we have choice - so you should just limit it to - the same media, and internet control. 'They' are corporations interested in generating more money for themselves - so are interested in only those situations which will allow this. So population control means less consumers - why would they want that?

If anything - we do have more choice in food, media, entertainment, literature and everything else - as the free production of goods and services generates income for corporations. If they come out with a good product - people will buy it . Making more choice available leads to a rise in the middle classes - populaces who tend to expect - and get - more choice in their lives - including to expect more from their 'leaders' . If they don't get that they quickly realise that their 'leaders' are a basically egotists and a sham.


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1But islam is really the religion of the arabs only [261 words]dhimmi no moreMay 15, 2011 07:37185215
No universal spirituality can ignore the universal laws given by God to humanity, so how Islam as a spirituality is conform to this? [206 words]Karole du PontDec 26, 2012 10:49185215
5M s M's very first sentence is wrong! [52 words]PrashantMay 11, 2011 00:35185073
30Doomed virtueless ethos or believes cannot make a Heaven out of US. [149 words]m s MMay 12, 2011 04:01185073
2islamic drivel by our dear msm [224 words]dhimmi no moreMay 13, 2011 07:57185073
Fear not for the US [111 words]Andy RFeb 16, 2010 21:43169027
i believe..muslims in west stop complaining about minarets [77 words]syed mohammad aliJan 31, 2010 05:59168161
2Strike up the band our dear Syed agrees with no minaret thing and as if anyone cares [469 words]dhimmi no moreJan 31, 2010 16:22168161
1Alllllllllllrighty then..... [50 words]ChrisFeb 1, 2010 04:14168161
1US"ONE OF THE LARGEST MOSLEM COUNTRY IN THE WORLD" [184 words]b soetoroJan 17, 2010 09:45167439
keith ellison [30 words]bary soetoroJan 12, 2010 22:15167259
What can we do to stop Islamism 2.0? [125 words]skyhigh555Dec 20, 2009 21:16166077
1Islamism 1.0 the virus then Islamism 2.0 is the anti-virus [195 words]AndyDec 30, 2009 01:54166077
it is the frog in the slowly rising temperature example. 2.0 will kill us ! [232 words]Phil GreendDec 14, 2009 03:13165833
It is the frog in the slowly rising temperature example by Phil Greend [108 words]RamjetDec 27, 2009 09:29165833
I disagree. Communism 2.0 was out and quite successful decades ago [183 words]joebloughDec 13, 2009 18:28165816
Muslim Intellectuals and Non-Muslim Intellectuals saythe same thing - word for word. [49 words]Joe BlackDec 13, 2009 03:16165764
Of course jihad's agents want us tolerant of Islam [112 words]AmillennialistDec 13, 2009 14:38165764
you've made no point [111 words]the Grand Infidel of KafiristanDec 13, 2009 17:26165764
Do you realize you repeated the same phrase without addressing the inverse? [190 words]The mirror has two facesDec 14, 2009 03:54165764
My humble opinion [169 words]pdmJan 4, 2010 12:20165764
appearance of peace [183 words]the Grand Infidel of KafiristanJan 7, 2010 17:23165764
Muslim Intellectuals would NEVER defend the Exremists in Islam. Islam is Pure & Simple. [213 words]Mohammad, CPAJan 19, 2010 23:21165764
My humble Opinion-- You are quite Right on in your humble opinion.... Response to pdm [155 words]Anne- USAMay 17, 2010 07:59165764
It's not "Islamism," nor is it a new version . . . [82 words]AmillennialistDec 12, 2009 13:16165733
Gulen as Islamist 2.0? [28 words]LazmanDec 11, 2009 00:11165639
he is a man with immense wealth and buys whoever he wants [126 words]yasemDec 11, 2009 12:59165639
Is Gulen that powerful ? [128 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
LazmanDec 12, 2009 13:00165639
He is not subtle. He only uses Islam. And the non-İslam powers back him [472 words]yaseminDec 16, 2009 13:18165639
1what? [121 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanDec 19, 2009 01:27165639
Assimilation by force is a crime and to say, "what would you do?" is not an argument. [248 words]yaseminDec 10, 2009 18:31165625
1Refusing to assimilate is also a crime [320 words]Istanbul_ChickDec 12, 2009 11:48165625
don't be so astonished [125 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanDec 12, 2009 17:24165625
a very big village full of puppets is the dream, and every single person should resist that [663 words]yaseminDec 16, 2009 12:22165625
we agree on some issues [1499 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanDec 19, 2009 03:17165625
so you think you can dance with capitalism and imperialism happily forever [48 words]yaseminDec 20, 2009 17:18165625
1(mis)leading statements [223 words]the Grand Infidel of KafiristanDec 21, 2009 22:13165625
p.s. [423 words]the Grand Infidel of KafiristanDec 22, 2009 15:31165625
1Muslims, when you are in Rome, behave like Romans. That is the very Right way to live & work. [231 words]Mohammad, CPAJan 20, 2010 00:01165625
Absolute life and death power rests in local Mullahs [357 words]Freedom from FearDec 9, 2009 07:58165531
Theoreticians undermine the opponent's foundations [257 words]B.N.GururajDec 8, 2009 08:01165495
to B N Gururaj on Daniel Pipes [247 words]ASDec 8, 2009 23:55165495
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A question for Daniel Pipes [93 words]
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LazmanDec 7, 2009 14:52165473
Tariq Ramadan repeats the same error that most Islamists do [134 words]P C ManiDec 6, 2009 22:28165442
Example of Islamists' hypocrisy [510 words]LazmanDec 6, 2009 19:11165438
Islam is the Religion for the Honest & Dignified people only. [225 words]Mohammad, CPAJan 19, 2010 22:58165438
1Mohammed CPA: You claim honesty, give an honest answer to what Koran 9:33, 48:28 and 61:9 are telling Muslims [247 words]PlatoJan 25, 2010 22:14165438
The formula is too simple [173 words]Mehmet Bülent UludağDec 6, 2009 14:36165430
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Swiss get what they want and you complain? [308 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanDec 10, 2009 04:30165430
Reply to Deniz [443 words]Istanbul_chickDec 10, 2009 04:47165430
: ) [195 words]Deniz CandasDec 11, 2009 21:36165430
lions on the hunt [79 words]miriamDec 6, 2009 13:58165427
World Lions Hunt Now - But Truth Waits for the Lion of the Tribe of Judah [550 words]M. ToveyDec 9, 2009 14:26165427
Islam 1.0-2.0 are No Match for Fully Completed Version of The Hebrew Holy Bible [504 words]M. ToveyDec 3, 2009 16:36165351
Islam 3.0? Iranian Islamism with a Nuclear Message [176 words]M. ToveyDec 7, 2009 18:19165351
america and eu,canada,australia some oil rich arabs are number one terrorist countries, china ,india ,russia are secondoray terrorists, [349 words]havasDec 1, 2009 01:58165242
our dear havas [647 words]dhimmi no moreDec 3, 2009 19:10165242
looking for a scapegoat in the wrong direction [971 words]the Grand Infidel of KafiristanDec 3, 2009 22:20165242
Mr. Havas' gripe [94 words]the Grand Infidel of KafiristanDec 3, 2009 22:45165242
Loved your diatribe, Havas [1181 words]JeffDec 4, 2009 22:38165242
some more muslims diatribe [459 words]havasDec 5, 2009 06:48165242
1"havas", I give you credit for a lot of good intentions, but ... [1072 words]kmanDec 6, 2009 23:52165242
they don't just disallow spires [1195 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanDec 7, 2009 03:17165242
it is culture [562 words]havasDec 8, 2009 07:56165242
1Sorry, but you promote compromise with no truth at all ... [743 words]kmanDec 8, 2009 23:17165242
2why does such a 'perfect' system create so many problems. [711 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanDec 9, 2009 02:36165242
1Still with us, Havas? [269 words]JeffDec 12, 2009 15:16165242
Versions of Islam [40 words]Delta Mike 67Nov 30, 2009 20:59165228
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It's in progress in Indonesia [59 words]El shaddaiNov 26, 2009 13:00165079
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word or sword or what [127 words]mythNov 28, 2009 03:58165077
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Answer: WHAT DIFFERENTIATES ISLAM FROM OTHER RELIGION [384 words]Mike BriggsNov 27, 2009 06:18165075
Correction for G Marcus [303 words]DillahNov 27, 2009 06:25165075
Judaism and Christianity have reformed but Islam has not [46 words]AliyaDec 8, 2009 11:21165075
Truth about Islam and American Policy towards Islam [184 words]AlbieJan 1, 2010 10:50165075
Spread of Islam - Reply to Marcus [209 words]Nozrul HussainJan 2, 2010 12:49165075
5th column hypocrites [713 words]the Grand Infidel of KafiristanJan 3, 2010 18:23165075
To: the Grand Infidel of Kafiristan (seems to know their role ... :) [740 words]Nozrul HussainJan 7, 2010 05:22165075
1a few small problems [1592 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanJan 8, 2010 07:39165075
Give The West CREDIT Where It Is Due [81 words]AnneMJan 13, 2010 07:50165075
the war & the new york times... [359 words]d levyNov 25, 2009 20:27165043
the worst enemy of Turkey [184 words]yaseminNov 25, 2009 17:14165032
Turkey's Best friends not enemies. [64 words]OliverNov 25, 2009 21:19165032
erdoğan [277 words]havasNov 26, 2009 11:31165032
Wher do you live Yasemin? [109 words]SuloNov 26, 2009 17:15165032
religigious politics and political religious is facism [594 words]yaseminNov 26, 2009 19:55165032
power is nothing artificially gained and power is not powering others [191 words]yaseminNov 29, 2009 09:16165032
Turkey's reducing of the Hadith's... [97 words]
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Dan HareNov 25, 2009 13:33165028
we are not the country to be used to change a religion [389 words]yaseminNov 26, 2009 00:54165028
Sharia [28 words]Dan HareNov 28, 2009 00:46165028
Knowing the enemy-1st rule of warfare [80 words]Steve BorkowskiNov 25, 2009 12:05165026
What is Islamism? [279 words]GerardoNov 25, 2009 11:25165025
relationship violence to lawfulness in radical islam almost no different [174 words]mythNov 26, 2009 05:47165025
christianity is far more violent than islam [160 words]havasNov 26, 2009 14:35165025
2Our dear Havas and the Qur'an a book that he cannot read in Arabic but that does not stop him from telling us that he knows what it really says! Go figure [439 words]dhimmi no moreNov 26, 2009 18:25165025
re:"christianity is far more violent than islam." Ok no problem with your claim. [449 words]klewNov 27, 2009 01:20165025
Your kidding.......Right !?!?!?!? [43 words]TimothyNov 27, 2009 15:08165025
Re Havas - is it the people ? [210 words]mythNov 28, 2009 04:15165025
It is not so. [14 words]TonNov 28, 2009 17:06165025
being a muslim [254 words]havasNov 29, 2009 12:25165025
havas: The Koran instigates Muslims to terrorise and commit crimes in verses 2:216, 4:74, 4:77 [752 words]PlatoNov 30, 2009 04:30165025
re havas - accusations maybe a misunderstanding [285 words]mythDec 1, 2009 05:52165025
turks are armenians. [152 words]havasDec 1, 2009 09:29165025
Truly Uninspiring [256 words]Sufi MuslimDec 1, 2009 18:50165025
1Our dear Havas who cares about North American Indians but not about his own ancestors the Armenians. [676 words]dhimmi no moreDec 2, 2009 09:07165025
1other people's grass always greener? [793 words]the Grand Infidel of KafiristanDec 2, 2009 15:41165025
wake up ,"havas".Tell us the truth. [260 words]surjDec 2, 2009 17:59165025
Sufi Muslim: More about cruel, abusive or plain ridiculous verses [1430 words]PlatoDec 3, 2009 05:18165025
Plato, why such animosity towards a book [243 words]Sufi MuslimDec 5, 2009 03:52165025
2Teaching one Sufi at a time [1552 words]dhimmi no moreDec 5, 2009 09:44165025
Plato - you know about Muslim hypocrisy!! [179 words]JaladhiDec 5, 2009 20:33165025
1no hatred involved. [875 words]the Grand Infidel of KafiristanDec 6, 2009 15:43165025
Teaching one Sufi at a time and Sunni Muslims regard Sufi Islam as no more than Hartaqa part deux [983 words]dhimmi no moreDec 6, 2009 16:13165025
Teaching one Sufi at a time and Sunni Muslims regard Sufi Islam as no more than Hartaqa part trois [804 words]dhimmi no moreDec 6, 2009 17:27165025
Sufi Muslim: Animosity is not towards just any book, but a book which spews animosity towards all non-Muslims [1350 words]PlatoDec 6, 2009 23:41165025
Dhimmi no more, why so angry [132 words]Sufi MuslimDec 7, 2009 11:35165025
1look within [128 words]the Grand Infidel of KafiristanDec 7, 2009 15:38165025
1Our dear Sufi and his bogus context [353 words]dhimmi no moreDec 7, 2009 18:40165025
Dhimmi no more, may you be satisfied [108 words]Sufi MuslimDec 8, 2009 12:08165025
1Our dear Sufi cannot refute the fact that the Qur'an a book that he cannot read in Arabic is: text with no context [426 words]dhimmi no moreDec 10, 2009 16:49165025
1Selecting for our dear sufi [333 words]dhimmi no moreDec 13, 2009 14:36165025
it just came in my mind [185 words]AhmadDec 18, 2009 09:00165025
1Yeah Ahmad/awliya [131 words]klewDec 26, 2009 00:41165025
Ahmad again [313 words]AhmadDec 31, 2009 02:11165025
1Ahmad's having a knee-jerk reaction without properly reading my post :D [567 words]klewJan 2, 2010 00:42165025
1sanctimonious claptrap [866 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanJan 2, 2010 06:20165025
Joining or fleeing? [161 words]UgriJan 4, 2010 02:54165025
Consfusion between belief and application [100 words]SisyphusJan 9, 2010 08:46165025
big mouth [35 words]bary soetoroJan 15, 2010 01:48165025
Whatever bary soetoro's smoking, I want some of that :D [54 words]klewJan 16, 2010 01:18165025
Our dear Bary and speaking of "big mouth" [202 words]dhimmi no moreJan 16, 2010 07:27165025
The rise of Islam [11 words]b soetoroJan 17, 2010 00:32165025
150000 moslems everyday [28 words]b soetoroJan 17, 2010 01:21165025
1Soetero: Some interesting statistics for you [363 words]PlatoJan 17, 2010 21:05165025
3Muslim math! Read and enjoy [319 words]dhimmi no moreJan 18, 2010 07:28165025
projection not to the past [60 words]b soetoroJan 18, 2010 21:58165025
Mr Soetoro please post the links! [42 words]klewJan 21, 2010 18:38165025
links [27 words]b soetoroJan 22, 2010 18:49165025
haahahahaha Mr soetoro, you're hilarious [214 words]klewJan 23, 2010 06:08165025
Our dear Bary says that 150000 human beings convert to the religion of the Arabs every day and his bogus sources! Read and laugh [277 words]dhimmi no moreJan 23, 2010 10:43165025
Our dear Bary and Muslim math read and enjoy [264 words]dhimmi no moreJan 23, 2010 11:05165025
Our dear Bary and more about Muslim math [247 words]dhimmi no moreJan 24, 2010 08:02165025
Our dear Bary and Muslim math read and enjoy part duex [191 words]dhimmi no moreJan 24, 2010 13:48165025
Christian sources also said Islam is the fastest [54 words]b soetoroJan 24, 2010 13:52165025
Our dear Bary and speaking of projections! For the readers read and laugh [224 words]dhimmi no moreJan 24, 2010 16:20165025
1If babies are born Muslim then 161,452 human beings abandon Islam every day! Thank God [194 words]dhimmi no moreJan 24, 2010 17:29165025
2Soetero: Allah has taught Muslims some strange math [368 words]PlatoJan 24, 2010 21:16165025
Oh Muslim math again! [88 words]dhimmi no moreJan 25, 2010 07:39165025
A sharp mathematical proof of the accuracy of inheritance versus in the Quran [48 words]The TruthMar 28, 2010 17:36165025
Our dear the truth and more islamic math [221 words]dhimmi no moreMar 31, 2010 07:21165025
Truth: Does it take a computer specialist to interpret the Koran on inheritance? [240 words]PlatoApr 2, 2010 04:50165025
Frighteningly simple [84 words]Rebecca MouldsNov 25, 2009 10:23165024
1Islam is self destructive ..... [153 words]Nuke09Nov 25, 2009 09:54165019
The West must observe and prevent Islamist envelopment, whatever the versions, 1.0, 2.0 or 1.5! [151 words]Isaac HaskiyaNov 25, 2009 09:26165012
MARCUS' LAWS OF ELECTORAL DEMOCRACY IN MUSLIM COUNTRIES [109 words]G MarcusNov 25, 2009 00:03164996
I don't like the word "Islamism" [110 words]sheik yer'mamiNov 24, 2009 20:56164990
Do you have a preference? [45 words]Tom DundeeFeb 27, 2010 20:06164990
1What of islamism 3 ? [99 words]G.VishvasNov 24, 2009 20:17164985
Any Guidance? [251 words]Soda JerkNov 24, 2009 20:13164984
re Soda Jerk - one solution [162 words]mythNov 26, 2009 05:59164984
Is islamism 2.0 a real problem ? [155 words]Lars NielsenNov 24, 2009 19:55164981
Small comment on the last paragraph [76 words]Leonid Kaplun, Russian engineerNov 24, 2009 17:55164974
benefits [124 words]yaseminNov 26, 2009 02:13164974
That's about it. [42 words]Tom DundeeFeb 27, 2010 20:10164974
A good article regarding your quote [1002 words]saraFeb 28, 2010 11:55164974
Thanks [36 words]Tom DundeeMar 2, 2010 10:07164974
No Islamism 1.0 or 2.0 - just pure Islam!!! [73 words]JaladhiNov 24, 2009 16:23164971
Jaladhi, you are absolutely right ! [46 words]Anne-Marie Delcambre de ChampvertNov 27, 2009 05:49164971
Obama is Islamism 2.0 [22 words]WilksDec 1, 2009 12:24164971
MUHAMMAD's LIVING MISERY ---- NO DOUBT [6 words]alex sabyDec 2, 2009 23:29164971

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