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Quraiza Affair, Response to Nabil Ahmed

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Submitted by Hisham A. (United States), Aug 14, 2006 at 13:27

Mr Ahmad: You have parotted the typical excuses given daily by modern day apologists to justify Mohammed's beheading of 900 adults in cold blood and raping their women for the so called treachery which never occured. Arguably, Mohammed's creulest venture in his violent and bloody 10 Madina years. Your apologetics may work with an ignorant westerner, but not with knowledgable ex-muslims..

In the Trench battle Quraish tried for cooperation of Quraiza tribe, their leader thought about it for few days but denied it later and actually never betrayed Mohammed. Thus there was no war and Quraish returned without fighting.

Here is from Sirat -e -Rasulullah by Ishaq, the first autobiography of Mohammed, the mother of islamic history:.

Ishaq Chap17

So the apostle and the Muslims held on and their enemies besieged them, but no battle took place.

Abu Sufyan continued, "This is not our home. Our cattle and camels have perished, the Banu Qurayza have abandoned us and their attitude is disquieting. We suffer from this violent gale; not a cooking‑pot is safe, nor a fire burning, nor a tent standing! Go, as I am going!" Then he went to his camel and mounted, and whipped it upright. In the morning, the Quraysh had vanished, and the Ghatafan, too. Then the apostle of Allah and his army left the Ditch and returned to Medina and put away their arms.

Mr. Ahmed what treachery are you talking about? Even if a treachery was committed because of the decision of one leader you dont behead the whole tribe, rape their women and take over their village. But that was the true nature of your perfect man, Mr Mohammed whom all apologists bend over backwards to defend. Of course just going and attacking without good reason has to be palatable so Mohammed always told his followers that it is Allah's decision. He justified his attack on Quraiza the same way: Read on:

BukhariVolume 5, Book 59, Number 443:

Narrated 'Aisha:

When the Prophet returned from Al-Khandaq (i.e. Trench) and laid down his arms and took a bath, Gabriel came and said (to the Prophet ), You have laid down your arms? By Allah, we angels have not laid them down yet. So set out for them." The Prophet said, "Where to go?" Gabriel said, "Towards this side," pointing towards Banu Quraiza. So the Prophet went out towards them.

Where did you read that Mohammed consulted old testament before punishing Quraiza Ahmed? Why was he consulting bible anyways since he called it a corrupted book ? Here is what really happenend. He tricked Bani aws to accept Sadh bin Muwad'd decision since they wanted to save Quraiza because of old ties. Mohammed knew Sad hated jews , was injured ,very bitter and dying , then he stamped his seal of approval by saying that that is exactly what Allah wants.

VBukhari: Volume 5, Book 59, Number 447:

Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:

Prophet said (to Sad)." These have agreed to accept your verdict." Sad said, "Kill their (men) warriors and take their offspring as captives, "On that the Prophet said, "You have judged according to Allah's Judgment," or said, "according to the King's judgment."

(I dont see the hadith or quran saying that Sad or Mohammed consulted Deurotonomy before making the decision)

That is exactly how Mohmmed robbed Nadir and banished them by telling his fool hardy followers that Allah told him that Nadir tried to kill him.

Well Mohammed can fool educated 21st century muslims then it must be a piece of cake to fool 7th century simpletons.


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