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Response to Nabil Ahmed

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Submitted by Hisham A. (United States), Aug 11, 2006 at 11:34

Nabil Ahmed wrote:

All I hear is "The Qur'an says this" and "the Hadith says this". But no one bothers to think deeply into the meaning of these great historical texts. Anyone can find justification for violence, chaos and mayhem in any book that's out there.

Well Nabil what other meanings can you get by deeply thinking about the following from Quran and hadiths except that Prophet Mohammed killed, looted, robbed, pillaged, enslaved, raped and womanized.


3.152 You slew them by His permission

33.26 Some you killed and some you captured and we made you owner of their property.

(Every male of Quraiza tribe approx 900, above the age of 13 were killed, others were made captives , their women were distributed and raped and their belongings were acquired by Mohammed)

008.017 : It is not ye who slew them; it was Allah:

Hadith and Sira:

Bukhari Volume 5, Book 59, Number 512:

Narrated Anas:

The Prophet offered the Fajr Prayer near Khaibar when it was still dark and then said, "Allahu-Akbar! Khaibar is destroyed, for whenever we approach a (hostile) nation (to fight), then evil will be the morning for those who have been warned." Then the inhabitants of Khaibar came out running on the roads. The Prophet had their warriors killed, their offspring and woman taken as captives. Safiya was amongst the captives, She first came in the share of Dahya Alkali but later on she belonged to the Prophet .

Bukhari vol 3,Book46, No. 717

"Narrated Ibn Aun:
Prophet had suddenly attacked Bani Mustaliq without warning while they were heedless and their cattle were being watered at the places of water. Their fighting men were killed and their women and children were taken as captives; the Prophet got Juwairiya on that day.

"Sirat e Rasulullah" by Ishaq, pge 464

After 800-900 male adults of Bani Quraiza were beheaded in batches, and thrown in trenches dug in Madina, the apostle divided their property, wives and children as booty. . He took Rayhana d. Amr b. Khunafa for himself.

Bukhari Volume 5, Book 59, Number 447:

Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:

Sad said, "Kill their men and take their women and children as captives, "On that the Prophet said, "You have judged according to Allah's Judgment,"

Prophet took Rehana as his share of the booty.

Page 711 (Ishaq)

Prophet's son Ibrahim was born to Mariyah the copt. Mariyah was the prophet's concubine. She was presented to the prophet by Muqauq in the


province of Ansina.

Nabil if you are looking for deep and hidden allegorical meaning of Quran then Quran in the following verse say people trying to find allegorical meanings are infidels: Read on:

YUSUFALI: He it is Who has sent down to thee the Book: In it are verses basic or fundamental (of established meaning); they are the foundation of the Book: others are allegorical. But those in whose hearts is perversity follow the part thereof that is allegorical, seeking discord, and searching for its hidden meanings, but no one knows its hidden meanings except Allah.

PICKTHAL: He it is Who hath revealed unto thee (Muhammad) the Scripture wherein are clear revelations - they are the substance of the Book - and others (which are) allegorical. But those in whose hearts is doubt pursue, forsooth, that which is allegorical seeking (to cause) dissension by seeking to explain it. None knoweth its explanation save Allah.


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