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Reader comment on item: Why I Stand with Geert Wilders
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Submitted by the Grand Infidel of Kafiristan (Australia), Jan 21, 2010 at 22:08

Mr Muhammed, from Mumbai writes:

" Now, you are aware that civilizations and culture is nothing static, it is ever-changing. Sometimes the changes are so fast and so uncontrollable, that you do feel insecure. "

You bring up some good points but fail to mention other obvious points . The first is that the changes you mention are in fact controllable. It would be entrirely possible to proscribe further Muslim immigartion to the EU and any other country where it deemed necessary. The second is that feeling insecure - and actually being insecure are two different things - but which may go together.

i.e. it is possible to feel insecure - but actually be in a secure situation. And it is possible to feel secure but be in an insecure situation - and possible to feel insecure and be in an insecure situation - and also of course - it is possible to feel secure and actually be in a secure situation. Some people have realised that the incompatibility with Islamic and western cultures and feel insecure in an insecure situation - while others - yet to be awakened still feel secure in an insecure situation. It is up to your muslim brother believers to yet again inflict some great tragedy on Western states (or Russia) to awaken them from their slumber.

"But basically there is nothing wrong with any civilization that essentially springs up to meet the challenges of time. "

And Geert Wilders is at the vanguard of that challenge.

"It is molded by time and space in which it grows up and gets mass approval or adoption. The clash of civilization that Bernard Lewis had observed to be the dominant preoccupation of the world pecking order, need not be violent, destructive and negative. "

Better to tell that to your Islamist friends really - and perhaps revise the Koran by taking out any passages that are anti-semitic , anti-infidel or that in any way justify the use of violence or any form of coercion whatsoever on non-muslims.

"It can be accommodative, cooperative, and positive."

Yes - the wished-for ideal and the reality.

Again - tell that to your Islamist friends. We see the results of accommodative, cooperative, and positive Islam daily in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, on the streets of Paris, in Holland, Denmark etc etc

" In that context, both yourself and Geert Wilders are rowing against the tide."
Mr. Wilders and others are just voicing the perceptions of what an increasing majority are aware of.

" I do not know how far you prescribe to the notion of 'perpetual war for perpetual peace',

That's similar to 'the price of freedom is eternal vigilance. We're being vigilant. You don't like that.

" but given human ingenuity, a new order can be imagine and promoted when use of force will become obsolete. "

To save lives - tell that to the mullahs and others who instruct suicide bombers.

".... to devote some time pondering about the feasibility and advantages of a world without war and struggle to dominate one another in a destructive manner"

Yes - a very nice little sentiment. But incongruous with other sentiments such as:

"
... The purpose of the Holy Prophet's appointment as a Prophet was not merely to preach this Religion, but to make it prevail over all others. In other words, he did not bring this Religion so that it might survive in a limited compartment of life which is allowed it by the dominant religion, while the rest of the spheres of life, by and large, should remain under the relentless control of some false religion. But he had brought it so that it should be the dominant Religion of life and any other religion should survive, if at all it survives, only within the limits in which it allows it to survive. (vol. 5, p. 66, note 51)

and those of certifiable but devoted Al Qeda's Suleiman Abu Gheith:

How can [the Muslim] possibly [accept humiliation and inferiority] when he knows that his nation was created to stand at the center of leadership, at the center of hegemony and rule, at the center of ability and sacrifice? How can [he] possibly [accept humiliation and inferiority] when he knows that the [divine] rule is that the entire earth must be subject to the religion of Allah - not to the East, not to the West - to no ideology and to no path except for the path of Allah? ..."

or 9:33 It is He Who has sent His Messenger (Muhammad) with guidance and the religion of truth, to make it superior over all religions, though the Mushrik├╗n (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah) hate (it).

9:29 Fight [q-t-l] against those who (1) believe not in Allah, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad), (4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

and for the nearly 2 billion Christians in the world sentiments such as - "9:30 ... [A]nd the Christians say: Messiah is the son of Allah. . . . Allah's Curse be on them, how they are deluded away from the truth! (Hilali and Khan)" are going to be hard to ignore.

So again, your scriptures need a rewrite.

Submitting....

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