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in response to reader comment: A More Complete Response to the 'Proofs from the Bible' - Look for the Truth in the Bible, Not for Excuses of Unbelief.

Submitted by sTs (United Arab Emirates), Jul 3, 2008 at 01:27

Tovey, I don't like to repeat what I said before, but I will make it very brief and to the point

  1. Genesis 16:3 And Sarai Abram's wife took Hagar her maid the Egyptian, after Abram had dwelt ten years in the land of Canaan, and gave her to her husband Abram to be his wife. IF you don't believe that Hagar is Abraham's wife then you don't believe in the bible.
  2. Genesis 16:15 And Hagar bare Abram a son: and Abram called his son's name, which Hagar bare, Ishmael. If you don't believe that Ishmael is the son of Abraham, then you don't believe in the bible.
  3. Genesis 17:20 And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation. If you don't believe that God promised Abraham that He will make out of Ishmael a great nation - (that is the nation of Islam), then you don't believe in the bible.
  4. Genesis 22:2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of. If you don't beleive that Ishmael is the son of Abraham and 14 years senior to Isaac, then you don't believe in the bible, if you believe the bible that your only son means Isaac, then you defy logic. Because Ishmael is the son of Abraham and he is 14 year Isaac senior , and Ishmael was the only son of Abraham before the birth fo Isaac.
  5. Moriah is not Gomorrah, Moriah is a name similar in pronounciation to Marwah (A high hill in Mecca). It the place where Ishmael was supposed to be sacrified on.
  6. You say "obedience to the Father" Who is his father, a question no one can answer
  7. Speaking to oneself???? Jesus is speaking to his self, by praying ?? to whom ??? Praying to himself???, you are not able to answer this one correctly.
  8. The fact that the bible is not wholy truely God's words, as you and others admit, the fact that the church admit there are mistakes in the bible, the fact that human hands tampered with the bible, the fact we see the proof of the human tampering shows that the bible is unreliable source of information, the fact that there are many versions, and different people believe their version is the right one, and no one is sure what is right and what is wrong, THEN, the bible is a not trustworthy reference to follow.
  9. Matthew 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. You did not answer how Jesus says I am not Good, only God is Good, then how do you believe he is son of god, or god, a son of god should be as good as god. don't you think, after all according to you he will be god.
  10. Historical records (according to Christian historians) it shows that Jesus was crucified Friday afternoon, and brought down from the cross in the evening before the sabbath started.
  11. What about this verse Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?. that Jesus Cried to his God, ELI (read in Arabic Elahi) meaning My God. his crying to his God. what do you say to that.

Conclusion - you don't believe in the bible and you cannot explain logically many of the critical verses , I am sure you are confused as most of the Christians are, even priest, when you ask them, they tell you don't ask these things, you take them as they are, they are belief, you should believe in them blindly.

It is always ambiguous explanation, that we cannot make anything of it.

Submitting....

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