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dhimmi no more

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in response to reader comment: Our dear KH Ahmed and the Arabic language

Submitted by K.H. Ahmed (United States), May 29, 2008 at 10:47

As I said an interesting post - an interesting comment - and you can tell the folks at al-azhar if you wish - but the fact remains there are many non-muslims with arabic/muslim names if you wish ranging from a to-t, it just is- if you wish to deny that - it's okay with me.

The grammatical debate has nothing to do with what Dr. Pipes and I were discussing - which is basically you cannot just use a name as a fact to draw a conclusion regarding ones religion.

If you wish to split hairs over the use of semitic languages or aramaic - that's okay too - this was a discussion of a point of view in presenting facts not my doctoral thesis.

I am not sure what possessed you to include "Heilgeschichte" in this comment - I doubt seriously most know or care about "salvation history" at least as it relates to what I was talking about sura's and their context, for me there is no relation, if you have one outside of philosophical I'd be curious as to what . If you had said perhaps there was no longer any room in Islam for Itijihad we would have had something to discuss, but the former, no slight intended but appears to be used just for the sake of saying "Heilgeschichte".

But dhimmi you confuse me- you appear well read, interested in things and yet you find it necessary to use all these little throw away lines, my dear, an assumption of knowing what another knows. It really doesn't become you.

Perhaps, we should look harder at that name "Dhimmi no more" - perhaps there is a bias, a prejudice hidden slightly under the covers there - perhaps - But regardless I will certainly print out your piece and hunt up the grammar because it is fascinating and something I am not that familiar with - so I do appreciate what you wrote. Please, please don't accuse me of be facetious because I am serious about not knowing the grammar as well as you do. It goes back a long way and as you must probably be aware a great deal of rote learning is involved as oppossed to grammatical study.

Oh as to religion as I have often said I leave that to those who are worried about it.

Let's see - the last paragraph - I don't know where you got all of that but I didn't write it - as to the Armenian Holocaust - the Turkish Government denies it - I would never deny it -

You state: "Islam is the religion and the imperialism of the arabs." If you wish to state the same is true of a segment of the Arab world I will agree with you. But the statement says no more than if I say "Capitalism is the religion and the imperialism of western civilization". I believe neither statement to be true in its entirety. Being closed minded to a people or an idea gets neither of us anywhere - you are obviously educated in the religion and its history - so you therefore no its positive aspects as well as its negative ones - You are of more use to the world trying to prop up the positive as opposed to pointing out the negative. But that's just a thought on my part - You must follow your own lights.

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