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To Maqsood: Freedom of speech is not 'haram' for us infidels

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in response to reader comment: Good Example?

Submitted by Plato (United Arab Emirates), Jul 7, 2007 at 01:34

Maqsood, what you wrote to Jorde is in inverted commas:

"---you said rushdie is a good example for your freedom of speech....

Would you explain what is freedom of speech?---"

If you have to ask that question,clearly you have no clue to what freedom of speech is. In Islam prohibtions and restrictions are what life is all about (haram and halal) not freedom. Your life revolves around it. Those who have freedom of speech can call into question and lampoon any dogma, ideology, philosophy or religion. The ones that can stand the purificatory fire of freedom of speech remain standing the others fall by the wayside. Muslims are afraid of freedom of speech because you know that Islam as a religion cannot stand up to close scrutiny. So suppressing freedom of thought is your desperate attempt to hide the truth of what your religion really preaches. For instance Allah gives out a contract to Muslims to go out and kill and be killed in his cause in verse 9:111. With freedom of speech how long can you go on claiming context and misinterpretation to hide such calls for violence.

"---to say some shameful words to anyone?---"

To whom did Rushdie say shameful words? To a long dead man? Long dead heroes of other people are also sometimes spoken of in disrepectul terms for their actions and words. Nobody riots and kills people going about their daily chores like Muslims do.

"---to hurt other people?---"

Calling ubelievers deaf, dumb and stupid is not hurful? Please read 2:18, 8:22, 17:97. Why should freedom of speech be a one way street? Bush who raids the Middle East for oil is criticised and abused everywhere. So is Muslims looting caravans, subduing tribes to take their wealth sacrosanct and cannot be criticised? Muslims consider them holy actions sanctioned by God Himself. The non-Muslim world considers them as no different than what you consider Bush is doing in the Middle East.

"---to abuse someone?---"

Is calling pagans 'najees' abuse? Is calling jews pigs and apes abuse? Read them in the koran.

"---Is there any limit on so called freedom of speech?---"

There should not be except abuse of the living. The persons living or dead who claim to be philosophers, prophets, ideologues, or politicians should not be given any protection from their words and actions being examined in the harshest manner possoble. Only those who can stand the acid test of public scrutiny of what they say and do have a right to respect.

"---and lastly , what will you do if some one abuse your mother, your father, or your sister in front of you in his speech of freedom. if that is acceptable to you?---"

It is not acceptable and that is why we in the civilised world will either sue them or if we are of an excitable nature mabye punch him in the nose and for which act we would end up in court. We will not murder them or gather friends and relative to start a riot.

By the way did Rushdie do any of that? Did he abuse your mother, father, or your sister in front of you in speech? Or are you one of those over the top people who considers your Prophet to be your father, mother and sister all rolled into one? If so, it easily explains this post of yours.

Regards

Plato

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