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To Maqsood: Islamic beliefs dressed up to look like science.

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Submitted by Plato (India), Aug 2, 2007 at 09:55

Hello Maqsood,

>>Pigs are also Gods creation

It means you can eat any thing because everything is created by God?<<

You can eat anything edible. Millions eat pork without any great effect on their health. People who eat pork are among the most long-lived and healthy people on earth. The Europeans, Americans, Chinese…

Pork is not a poisonous substance that will kill you or damage your health.

>>The above verses of the Holy Qur'an are sufficient to satisfy a Muslim as to why pork is forbidden.<<

It may be enough reason for Muslims to not eat pork. But non-Muslims need more reason than Islamic scripture to avoid pork.

>>A similar prohibition is repeated in the Bible in the book of Isaiah chapter 65 verse 2-5.<<

The Christians did not see any merit in this taboo and so do the wise thing and eat pork which is a good source of proteins and energy.

>>…A common misconception about pork is that if it is cooked well, these ova die. In a research project undertaken in America, it was found that out of twenty-four people suffering from Trichura Tichurasis, twenty two had cooked the pork very well. This indicates that the ova present in the pork do not die under normal cooking temperature.<<<

Reading this comment of yours one would think that the Christians, Chinese, Koreans and others who eat pork would be disease ridden people and the Muslim world full people in spanking good health. That obviously is not the case.

Also have you ever bothered to read the pamphlet that comes with any medicine you buy? If you read it would you dare to consume any of it, even the life saving anti-biotics.

Maqsood pig organs are so close to human ones that they have been approved for transplant into humans. Apart from being good source of nourishment they will soon be saving human lives. What will you do if your doctor suggests such a transplant to save a dear one?

>>Pork has very little muscle building material and contains excess of fat. This fat gets deposited in the vessels and can cause hypertension and heart attack. It is not surprising that over 50% of Americans suffer from hypertension.<<

What kind of science are you talking. Not just animal fat, cereals, nuts and practically all edible material have fat building material. Pigs also have muscle and other tissues made of proteins all of which can build muscle. When you give figures like 50% of Americans suffering from hypertension please quote your source and also figures for Muslim countries for comparison.

Are you going to stop eating poultry because of bird flu. Are you going to stop eating beef because of mad cow disease both of which have high fatality. At least pigs despite their poor hygiene do not pass on such deadly diseases to humans.

>>The pig is one of the filthiest animals on earth. It lives and thrives on muck, faeces and dirt. It is the best scavenger that I know that God has produced. In the villages they don't have modern toilets and the villagers excrete in the open air. Very often excreta is cleared by pigs. Some may argue that in advanced countries like Australia, pigs are bred in very clean and hygienic conditions. Even in these hygienic conditions the pigs are kept together in sties. No matter how hard you try to keep them clean they are filthy by nature. They eat and enjoy their own as well as their neighbour's excreta.<<

If you are from Pakistan you must have seen chicken gobbling up human excreta. Why is chicken on the menu of Muslims? You state that even pigs bred in hygienic surroundings are unfit for human consumption. Where did you get your facts from. And what exactly is excreta? It is the same hygienic food you have consumed passing through your body with some of its nutrients removed and some chemicals added. It still has a lot of nutrients in it which is why it is a good fertilizer. Pigs (or chicken) eating excreta pass it through their digestive system and extract the remaining nutrients. When you eat pork it is not the original excreta you are eating. You know animal excreta is used extensively as food for plants which you consume. Are you eating animal excreta when you eat plants? Why don't you stop eating fruit, vegetables etc??

>>The pig is the most shameless animal on the face of the earth. It is the only animal that invites its friends to have sex with its mate. In America, most people consume pork. Many times after dance parties, they have swapping of wives; i.e. many say "you sleep with my wife and I will sleep with your wife." If you eat pigs then you behave like pigs.<<

Wonderful Islamic science! If you eat pigs you behave like pigs! If you eat chicken you behave like chicken. If you eat beef you behave like cows! I think we should develop a taste for lions and tigers and eagles to become brave and strong like them.

Why don't you mention that chicken and cows also mate with their mothers, fathers and children? After eating them do we all develop incestuous feelings.

>> am sure you will be keen of drinking like many non believers.<<

I do enjoy a drink once in a while. I know plenty of unbelievers who never touch alcohol. And I know plenty of believers who drown themselves in alcohol. Go to Bahrain and UAE and you will see Saudis and other Arabs enjoying themselves at the bars. Smoking, drugs also cause havoc why has the Koran not foreseen them?

>>Alcohol inhibits the inhibitory centre<<

Not just alcohol, but mind altering drugs like lsd, marijuana, heroin also do the same. You can of course claim they are also intoxicants, but you seem to be bothered more about alcohol.

>>… According to statistics, 8% of Americans commit incest i.e. one in every twelve to thirteen persons in America is involved in incest. Almost all the cases of incest are due to intoxication of one or both the persons involved.<<

You have not quoted any source for claiming that most rapes were alcohol related or for your claim that 8% of Americans commit incest. Do you have any such statistic for incest in Islamic countries. I wouldn't be surprised if the figures are greater in them with women restricted to their homes and males only in contact with close female relatives.

>> …If alcohol is a disease, it is the only disease that: - Is sold in bottles…<<

Alcohol is not a disease, alcoholism is a disease. The roulette table is not a disease, the compulsion to gamble is a disease.

>> Allah (swt) in His Infinite Wisdom has warned us against this snare of Satan. Islam is called the "Deen-ul-Fitrah" or the natural religion of Man. All its injunctions are aimed at preserving the natural state of man. Alcohol is a deviation from this natural state, for the individual as well as for society. It degrades man to a level below that of the beasts he claims to be superior to. Hence the consumption of alcohol is prohibited in Islam.<<

Alcohol is the snare of Satan? Who created alcohol, Allah or Satan? Did Allah create it so that Satan could use it to snare man? In the first case Satan is also capable of creating things like Allah. In the second case Allah is culpable.

>>Ans:No, its not true as mentioned below in Quran Haram are not the animals over which Allah's name has not been mentioned but those has been invoked by the name other than Allah.

"Forbidden to you (for food) are: dead meat, blood, the flesh of swine, and that on which hath been invoked the name of other than Allah."<<

Does it mean that you can eat meat over which no name has been invoked? Will you consider eating meat sold in Western countries over which no name has been invoked?

>> The animal has to be slaughtered with a sharp object (knife) and in a fast way so that the pain of slaughter is minimised.<<

You say minimized. How do you minimize pain when you cut an animals throat? It is bound to last a few seconds. If you stun it, it will not feel any pain.

>>Blood is a good media of germs, bacteria, toxins, etc. Therefore the Muslim way of slaughtering is more hygienic as most of the blood ontaining germs, bacteria, toxins, etc. that are the cause of several diseases are eliminated.<<

Whatever germs or toxins are there in the blood will also be there in the muscles and other tissues and also in the blood vessels as not much blood drains out. The quantity of blood would be about 10% of body weight. Does a cow lose that much weight or even 5% of its weight when slaughtered the Islamic way. How long does it take for the heart to stop beating after the throat is cut? A few seconds, maybe, how much blood can drain out. You are just manufacturing unscientific reasons to justify inflicting pain on animals.

In Africa some tribes (Zulus?)consume blood directly from animals without even cooking and they seem to be very healthy.

>>Meat slaughtered by Islamic way remains fresh for a longer time due to deficiency of blood in the meat as compared to other methods of slaughtering.<<

Who has conducted any test about this claim? Another manufactured reason for justifying inflicting pain on dumb animals. You not only want to eat them but you also insist on inflicting pain on them.

>> The swift cutting of vessels of the neck disconnects the flow of blood to the nerve of the brain responsible for pain<<

Can you quote any scientific studies to prove this claim? There is no way you prevent pain and terror for a few seconds.

Regards

Plato

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