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in response to reader comment: To Henrik: Quran is above all, then 6 books of Hadith and then remaning books of Hadith, and then history books

Submitted by Henrik Ræder Clausen (Denmark), Jul 2, 2007 at 16:53

"And how could you have a reference (and if there one it will contradict with other facts of history like Prophet Mohammad migrated to Madina, fought Battle of Badar with Qureish etc.)."

First, Muhammad accepted the offer. It is described in detail how he prostrated himself to the gods of the Kaaba (Allah, Al-Uzza, Al-Lat, Manat etc.,) and how all the Muslims followed his example, and the Quraysh talking happily of how Muhammad spoke with appreciation of their gods. It's all there, right in the scripture, the pages I referred you to.

Then later comes Gabriel (we must assume - we have only Muhammad's words for it), reprimanding Muhammad for bringing false relevation. This causes Muhammad to cancel the deal, which in turn leads to him being beaten out of Mecca (actually his adopted son - Muhammad knew it was coming and tricked his son into taking the beating), and he fled to Medina.

There he started a civil war with his clan over his status as a prophet. The war ran for eight years, after which the Quraysh were fought into submission. Battle of Badr, in all its gruesome details (gloating over the putrid corpses of his dead relatives? Yikes!), and the 70-something other battles Muhammad and the Muslims initiated. It's all history, and can be read in detail in Ibn Ishaq and al-Tabari, the original Islamic sources.

I can understand that you're not particular proud of what these books tell about Muhammad and will do what is possible to discredit them, but I think you're in trouble here. Ibn Ishaq was sponsored by caliph Mansour in Baghdad to compile his work, and since it was published with the Satanic verses and all the killing, these stories carry the best approval possible in the Islamic history, the approval of the successor to Muhammad himself.

Both, BTW, are collections of Hadith, complete with Isnads and all, and not contradicted in anything significant by the books of Bukhari, Muslim etc.

Let's just dip into Bukhari a bit: Jihad is incumbant on Muslims, like this:

Al-Jihâd (holy fighting) in Allâh's Cause (with full force of numbers and weaponry) is given the utmost importance in Islâm and is one of its pillars (on which it stands). By Jihâd Islâm is established, Allâh's Word is made superior, (His Word being Lâ ilaha illallâh which means none has the right to be worshipped but Allâh), and His religion (Islâm) is propagated. By abandoning Jihâd (may Allâh protect us from that) Islâm is destroyed and the Muslims fall into an inferior position; their honour is lost, their lands are stolen, their rule and authority vanish. Jihâd is an obligatory duty in Islâm on every Muslim, and he who tries to escape from this duty, or does not in his innermost heart wish to fulfil this duty, dies with one of the qualities of a hypocrite.

Violence, anyone? The scriptures sure got it.


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