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Taqiyya Amin Strikes again

Reader comment on item: Arabist Snobs
in response to reader comment: More Fiction (Doctoring Figures)

Submitted by Peter Hall (Australia), Jan 4, 2012 at 19:45

Well Amin, Have you bothered to read the Article you have been commenting about?? ...

Also that the Top Arabic Author relied on a Government Job until his 60s and only had print runs of 10,000 copies.

Here is your clear lie:

Where am I lying Amin? I said print runs of 10,000, not print run! Do you not understand that an s at the end of a word makes it a plural? Do you know what a plural is? Some linguist your are Amin, talk about going off with your mouth frothing on a tangent. BTW did you mean "here you clearly lie!"? Yep your English is really great Amin, where a simple engineer has to fix your poor English. Do you have no shame? Or is this more Taqiyya?

You also said;

Even Anis Mansour sold 30,000+ copies on Existentialism

Now this may well be true, it sounds believable. However, I was wondering how many Western Authors have sold more than 30,000 copies of a book about a obscure subject, it is hardly anything to boast about. I am sure there are examples of Western housewives writing books on changing nappies that have sold 300,000 copies. I cannot see the point you are trying to make? Does 30,000 copies sold by an Arabic Author show Arabic is a strong language?

What point are you trying to make Taqiyya Amin? Please explain the significance? ..

Then you again deride my sources, yet you still have not provided the proof of your Arabic books "all of Europe has read" !!

The Newspaper I quoted as a source was an Arabic Newspaper, so you are saying Arabic sources are only reliable when they support what you believe? That sounds like Muslim Taqiyya that say haddiths are only reliable when they do not say something embarrassing about Mohammed.

Where are your great sources Amin? Where is the sources that are so much more reliable than wikkipedia, CIA factbook, The UN, Nationbuilder, and numerous other sources I have provided.

The only sources you have quoted provides either no figures, no facts, or cannot be read except by an Arabic reader.

You said

Really? You gave me a newspaper article as evidence. Without even knowing whose figures they were.

Well Amin, as I have stated many times, I have been looking for the facts and figures about Arabic printing, and Arabic literature, and I have not been able to find any, and I have asked you many times for facts.

Yet I have not been able to find any, and you have supplied NONE, so in the absence of any facts or figures, I have tried to use rumours based on the source. I view a newspaper from an Arabic country, that expresses a negative view on a Arab, to be more reliable than a Western newspaper expressing the same view, due to the fact that many Arabic journalists get murdered when they express a negative views so there is more risk for them to say such things. I also assume that a publishing house saying how good one of their writers are is nothing more than them trying to boost sales, not a reliable source.

You said

This is called stereotyping and racism. Prejudiced and hated filled mind at work - I said that from start. Relying on lies...

I find it funny that you have reverted to the old stereotyping, racism. prejudiced and hate line Amin, I find that people who use those terms are racist, prejudiced and hate filled, and they lie and distort the truth. Do you think you can get away with that because I am a white middle aged white male? Are you trying to play the minority card Amin? Well actually, I am the minority Amin, as there are over a billion Indians.

I think I will call you Taqiyya Amin from now on, it has an unusual ring to it, but is catchy.

I made a statement based on observation about Arabic, and how it has stagnated. All the evidence I have provide supports this. I have never claimed Arabic speaking peoples as inferior, only the language they use, when Arabic speakers learn English, and are educated, they do as well as everybody else. I have not expressed a racist view. If I say that the Australian Aborigines were a stone age culture before the arrival of White men, that is not racist, they had no metal tools only stone tools, it is a fact. In saying Arabic is weak I am describing the tool, not the individual or racial group. I am describing the weaknesses of the Arabic culture as a function of the language, and its weakness, not the people.

There is no definitive proof when it comes to debate over a language.

The facts are that India does have a higher literacy rate than the Arabic speaking world. 74.9% which is higher than the 70% rate you claimed for the Arabic speaking world. Well Taqiyya Amin, you seem to have trouble with facts don't you?

Also, literacy and being educated are different things Amin. Are you saying that literacy in Australia at 99% means we are only 29% better educated than the Arabic world due to the Arabic world having 70% literacy?

Now naive! Its is not a linear relationship Taqiyya Amin, it is more an exponential relationship. The degree of education and quality is estimated in a different way. The formula I used is just one of many.

Your using Qatar an an example shows that if a Arabic country has enough foreign workers it can seem educated. Also the money Qatar receives from oil allows it to fund education at a high level, but still only receive poor results for its native inhabitants.

The formula I used is from the UN, I did not make it up, check for yourself Taqiyya Amin, or is the UN not a reliable source?

There is a logic in the results too, it a country has enough infrastructure to teach virtually all their citizens to read that are capable (remember,Taqiyya Amin, that no country can achieve 100% literacy as some people suffer from mental disabilities and some people emigrate unable to read or write) then that society will progressively invest in more educational infrastructure. The reason that so few Arabic Educational institutions are of a world standard, is that there are few Arabic speaking countries that even approach western standards of literacy.

Again, the poor standards of the literacy and education clearly are symptomatic of a weak primary language.

The primary use of literature is as a source of entertainment and enjoyment. If peoples are not reading Arabic, then there is no need to print lots of books or have lots of Authors. Your failure to provide proof of the strength of Arabic literature by way of credible facts, shows there are few Arabic books printed, which show that there is no demand which shows Arabic speaking peoples do not enjoy reading Arabic literature.

I have also shown that non Arabic speakers have created no demand for Arabic literature, the source was a UN committee commenting about the low numbers of books translated into and out of Arabic, therefore again it fails on this benchmark.

I have provided evidence that academically Arabic is weak and not used in the sciences. I provided a source to confirm this, you cried how I could not provide a single source, well I did Taqiyya Amin,a Pakistani Professor who as a scholar, is a perfect source.. Now you seem to think that none of this matters? Well it clearly shows why I reached my conclusions. The Article we are commenting on clearly supports me in that it says you do not need to be an Arabic speaker to see the flaws in Arabic. Who is supporting you Taqiyya Amin?

My final proof is you Taqiyya Amin. Look at the numbers who agree with my comments and how many readers agree with you. I assume your votes are by yourself and your mate Slayhy. I do not delude myself that my comments are really great, or even remotely scholarly, but I think the number readers who agree with me, is more a function of how much they disagree with you!


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