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Reader comment on item: Not Stealing Palestine but Purchasing Israel
Submitted by Abu Nudnik (Canada), Jun 21, 2011 at 12:03
...so the idea they are descended from the Jebusites is more like a lie than a fantasy.
btw... While I'm sure you didn't caption this, Dr. Pipes, it bears noting that the picture shows the Temple furnishings being removed from the Temple, not the Temple Mount. Titus destroyed the Temple in 70 AD: the Mount itself remains to this day.
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