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To Shakeel: Here is the full verse ...and Allah praying to himself?

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Submitted by Plato (United Arab Emirates), May 14, 2007 at 04:31

Shakeel, since you are shy of quoting the full verse, let me give it to the readers in full. Muslims are always screaming that verses have been torn out of context. But you have not only torn this verse out of context, but also only quoted only part of it to hide the fact that the verse is referring only to Jews and not any others.

Now when you read this verse in full, your claim that the verse is talking of Allah's disapproval of killing falls flat.

005: 32YUSUFALI:. On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our messengers with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land.

You have also given a link to Al Fatiha. What is the purpose? Here is a verse that does not begin with 'say', so it looks as though Allah is praying to himself! Hilarious does not begin to describe it. And if you want to say that it is Allah teaching you how to pray then plainly Allah is seen as being full of self-love. A god who wants all kinds of praise heaped on himself like any old tinpot dictator.

"In the name of Allah, The Merciful, The All-merciful Praise be to God, the Lord of the World, (1) the Merciful, the All-merciful, (2) the Master of the Day of Recompense. (3) Thee we serve, and to Thee we pray for help. (4) Guide us to the Straight Path, (5) the path of those whom Thou hast blessed,(6)not of those who incurred wrath, nor of the astray. (7)"

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