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Useless exercise to find moderate muslim

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Submitted by Milind (India), May 1, 2007 at 05:48

Islam and muslims are incompatible with any other community or form of governance. Any country with 3% more population of muslim has problems. You cant please them and win them to you. Political appeasement of muslims world wide was big failure. Muslims multiply faster than any other community. ... In India hindu population can match this to some extent but Europe will shrink and end up as being minorities in there own land in maybe 50 years. Then all will be forced to wear burkhas or grow beards. Islam will become the official religion of Europe.

When I was small, I was afraid of muslims. This people appeared so alien, they dressed like aliens , ate like aliens, talked like aliens. Muslim was a mystery creature for me. Whenever there was a riot, hindus would be cut to pieces by muslims, they would not spare even women or children. Many of them were butchers and had no problems in killing humans. I still remember fat muslim men on the streets with swords,sticks and choppers and we would be locked up and looking out through broken glass or holes in curtains ,curious and still afraid that they may see me and come up to kill me. My mother would pull us away from the windows fearing the worse.

I did not understand the logic. Sure we had great hindu leaders like Maharana Pratap and Prithviraj Chauhan and Shivaji Maharaj who had fought muslims and defeated them many times. Were they not hindus ? I wondered why this muslim people were so strong and powerful.Then . My grandmother used to tell me that all the meat and fish they ate gave them the strength. I believed her then. We would hear shouts and the screams of men and women burnt to death alive by muslims during riots.

Hindus were not at all organized at that time, each would go and shut himself in his house when trouble started but muslim came as armed groups and did what they pleased. Even police was afraid to come and help. They would block roads for theire namaaz prayers and no body could complain. All that changed with the emergence of Hindu right wing. This people are as bad as muslims if not worst, they are ready for kill burn and loot.

Eight years ago there was a riot started by muslims and hindus paid back in the same kind. The local police also sided with the hindus. The muslims were outnumbered and beaten badly Suddenly muslims became the victim, he was locked up in his house for days.He sobered up. He would not dare to look straight in your eye. You dont have to make way for him any more. The volume of the loud speaker in the mosque during the namaaz automatically came down. Roads were half open even during friday prayers. Our women are not scared of them any more. muslims dont celebrate anymore if Pakistan wins a cricket match against India. If they do, theire houses are stoned. If they stone us back, there houses are burnt. If one of us is stabbed at least 3 muslims get stabbed for revenge.

Hindus still buy mutton, fish, bangles and cloth from muslims. Our children share the same school. They buy from daily grocery from our stores. But there is peace because muslims have been "educated" by us. If there is any problem the elder muslims solve it before the situation worsens, because they have now realised that they will be paid back if they misbehave. For our area having 25% muslim and rest hindu, no big hindu - muslim fights for eight years is a miracle and welcome thing. They dare not touch us now.

I am from a family of hindu preists called brahmins, nobody in our community have ever used weapons. We dont even eat meat or fish. But today our boys are ready to take up arms and retaliate if attacked. Call it hate , call it necessity, call it living with honor, or doing the right thing or whatever you like. We dont like muslims but we wont harm them unless we are harmed by them. And when they live in our country they have to obey the same law that we all follow, we have make them obey.

For all muslims worldwide. the world is tired of your immaturity. You think that you can escape with anything you are wrong. If you do bad things , you will get back the worst. I am a simple guy who has not studied much, but understand it clearly. But great policy makers and statemens in USA and europe dont understand this simple truth. Or they do not have the guts to do the correct thing at the right time. Instead they waste their time trying to learn muslim language and culture. USA and Europe must have a strong and "working" right wing.

This is the only "workable" solution for the problem. You might have heard of Gujarat in India. If you did not search on google.com for godhra+gujarat. They followed a pattern of state run genocide of muslims in retaliation to burning of a railway train full of hindus. The hindu revenge was cruel, and ever since Gujarat has had no problem of terrorists even though it shares the border with pakistan that is the breeding ground of islamic terrorists world wide.

The solution to islamic terrorism is counter terrorism. You "educate" the muslim in such a way that he can be sure to be hit back if he misbehaves. Make clear to the muslims that if he harms one of your own, ten muslims will be harmed in return. That is language of Muhamed and Quran and mullas will understand it well. A mulla who cannot be loyal to his country of birth or nationality does not have a right to exist in that country. If possible a muslim should be sent back to the muslim country where he came from. Muslim should not be allowed to have more than one wife of more than 2 children. No new muslim should be allowed into a non muslim country as tourist and even for studying. Muslim should not be given jobs or high position in the army, government nor should they be allowed to become ministers or judges.

No building of new mosques or madrasas should be allowed. All foreign donations to any muslim organisations should come through the government of that country. Conversion to islam should be watched closely and restricted. A muslim should not be permitted to have more than one wife and a maximum of two children. This will make sure that muslim population will not grow out of bounds and displace the majority. Dont treat them as citizens if they dont do their duties.

Sure muslims will protest. Each time their protest becomes violent, demolish a mosque or madrasa. If it does not stop , demolish a house. Protests will automatically stop because muslim understands the language of the sword because it is the language of his faith. After all every muslim country rules its populations by the sword. Every nation should be like Israel, know your enemy well and treat him as such. I remember Nietzsche quoted that when you fight demons and dragons, you yourself is in danger of becoming a demon. Sometimes this risk is worth taking and necesary.

**If Kindness begets cruelty from a person cruelty will beget obedience from him**

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