Response to "Divine"
Submitted by Abuhajira (South Africa), Nov 19, 2007 at 01:34
Kia ora Abuhajira.
What is that supposed to mean? :)
Yes - wouldn't it be divine if Islam became as peaceful as other religions have, we could all travel by bus, train or air, not be held up for ages at security checks at airports and go shopping to the local market with no fear. Not have to look twice at a collection of Imams trying to board the same plane as you, and wondering..........
Yes, indeed it would be wonderful if the imposition of superstitious threats from the western govt was lifted and actual face of the evil be shown. It would be so nice if the heartless govts who find pleasure in killing their own merely to gain an oppertunity to start a war with third world countries, simply to gain monetary benefits would just quit!
It is not the Imams that have threatened you my dear kiwi.. its the fox news! :D It not the threats of muslim travelers rather the orchestrated death lords who performed the symphony of 7/7 etc and their aftermath to take YOUR liberty not the muslims. You can feel safe in giving up your freedom to your own govts, hand over all your privacy to National Security and claim "I am free" .. A canary is free in his cage as long as it doesnt realizes the cage. You do not!Threats are not about Islam... Threats are not about religion.. they are about Govt, Policies, and money!!! Wasnt the media bigmouthing like this about communism not to long ago.. Why hasnt US sorted out Cuba as yet! Vietnam, etc etc.. history is so easily forgotten. read up.. all these wars were self inflicted.. not metaphorically.. literally. Hitler had done the same thing with poland what Bush has done with his own country to enter into a war.. Ever hear the slogan.. 9/11 was an inside job :).. just to get you started on reading up..
Freedom and trust is everything! And wouldn't it be wonderful if every religion worshipped as they wanted without fear of others who believe they are the only ones that are right and seek to impose their beliefs on others.
Just another example of your unfamiliarity with Islam. Any religion under Caliphate is fully allowed to worship as they please so long as they do not propagate it in open. No religion will be imposed on them. They may do as they please. Not only that, in time of conflict with outsiders the state will take the liability of taking care of them in lieu of the Jiziya tax that they had been paying.
And before you say anything, all the modern countries do the same.. When I am in canada and its tax payer (and not yet a canadian) they will give me security from invading countries and I will not be liable to fight for canada because I am not a canadian and I pay the taxes.
But you wouldnt know that because your reading material came from the twisted biased writings.
If Islam is so wonderful, why isn't the whole world a caliphate? - but then, I think you know the answer to that!
The same argument goes both ways my bro. If "Good" and "Peace" is so good, then why isnt the whole world a hippie stadium with peace! Good and Bad co exists. Dont focus on eradicating the evil, rather focus on spreading the good so much that it will over power the evil. with statment like "but then, I think you know the answer to that!" you have tried a lame attempt to say that
since the whole world is not a caliphate, it demands that caliphate be an incorrect policy to run the world.
So sorry to bust your bubble, but even after so much war and terror from the den of democracy, democracy is still not in the whole world. As I already mentioned communism is sleeping under the feet of US and still they havent done much about it. It is also not funny that many "commies" during the edgar hoover time were sentenced to death only because they said that US has facist policies... :D
Again... read up.
BTW, the freedom that you boast only goes as far as you dont say anything against your own govt. Freedom cannot exist without limits, because that is not freedom rather anarchy. In US if you say a small sentence against the govt, you can be thrown in jail without right to a lawyer and without any proof. thats National Security, which rules over and above your freedom of speech.
Ford of Ford Motors said once "We will build your cars in every color as long as they are black".. that my friend is your freedom. You are either with us or against us.. and guess what.. that is why they have freedom fries and not "French Fries" :D
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