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Mayeed: It makes us laugh too when you say Islam and sharia are the solution. Part I

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Submitted by Plato (India), Aug 10, 2009 at 07:42

Mayeed, you write:

>>I have always noticed that the moment any article/topic is written on/against Islam it abruptly attracts the attention of the people of all religious backgrounds to express their views.<<

Articles are generally written for people to read. Those who have an opinion about what was written will comment on it. What is your problem? That comments about Islam tend not to be adulatory?

>>It is the most hated religion and most wrongly presented in media in all its forms.<<

Muslims also claim that Islam is the fastest growing religion. How can the most hated religion attract so many non-believers?

>>Every non muslim ,who i have got an opportunity to listen to, is filled with nothing but ignorance.They really have got no idea what they are talking about.<<

Every non-Muslim? You are also talking like Allah who says non-Muslims are deaf, dumb and without understanding (Koran 2:171, 8:22). You are lucky that they were filled with ignorance about Islam and Muslims otherwise they would not even be talking to you because Allah tells you that they are a cursed group with whom you should not make friends (Koran 2:159, 2:161, 3:28, 5:80)

>>one person told me that ...,yes muslims have been forbidden to have alchohol but they have been allowed in Quran to have heroine and other forms of dry intoxicants. I was really astonished how he could say that without any knowledge.It is not only alchohol but all forms of intoxicants which have been forbidden in Islam.<<

That one person was surely ignorant about what the Koran contains. What is forbidden in the Koran is not as astonishing as what is halal, allowed by Islam. The ignorant person who talked about heroine being haram would have been astonished that keeping, taking and trading in slaves are not haram according to the Merciful Allah. Nor is thrashing your own wife if you suspect she is likely to be disobedient (4:34). He would also have been astonished at sharia demanding death for apostasy and its eye for an eye punishment.

>>99.9% people who comment against Islam are the result of ignorance and prejudice against Islam.<<

What did you expect, Allah Himself thinks non-Muslims are as ignorant as the beasts He has created (Koran 8:22).

But I think you got it wrong. 99.9% of people who say Islam is peaceful are because of their ignorance of what Allah wants Muslims to do. He wants you to fight and subdue non-Muslims in 9:29. He guarantees you paradise for killing or getting killed in 9:111. He prescribes fighting for Muslims in 2:216. He wants you to kill apostates (4:89). He tells you to keep away from non-Muslims and being friends with them is an evil act (Koran 5:80).

>>People have been taught to hate Islam.<<

The Koran teaches Muslims to hate non-Muslims, even if they are their own near and dear relatives (9:23, 9:24). Allah tells Muslims that non-Muslims are a cursed group (2:159, 3:87 etc). Can you explain why Allah teaches Muslims to hate non-Muslims? Which religion, aside from Islam and some other monotheistic ones, teaches people of one religion to hate another? It is Muslims who have been taught to hate non-Muslims.

>>There a numerous religions who do not have to do anything with Jesus (pbuh)but still christians have got no problems with them but Islam being the only non christian faith which makes it obligatory for muslims and an artilce of the Islamic faith to believe,love ,respect Jesus Christ……..Imagine that is what Islam has to say for Jesus (pbuh) and his mother(peace be upon her).<< But still christians out of their ignorance do not miss even a trivial chance to abuse and demonize Islam(The religion of God and the way of life).<<

But you clean forget that the Koran blasphemes Christianity by claiming Jesus was not the Son of God which is the bedrock of the Christian belief. All your sweet words about Islam accepting Jesus as a prophet are just that, sweet nothings, when compared to the insult the Koran delivers to the Christians by saying they blaspheme God for saying Christ is the Son of God. Read:

005.017 YUSUFALI: In blasphemy indeed are those that say that Allah is Christ the son of Mary. Say: "Who then hath the least power against Allah, if His will were to destroy Christ the son of Mary, his mother, and all every - one that is on the earth? For to Allah belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between. He createth what He pleaseth. For Allah hath power over all things."

005.072 YUSUFALI: They do blaspheme who say: "Allah is Christ the son of Mary." But said Christ: "O Children of Israel! worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Whoever joins other gods with Allah,- Allah will forbid him the garden, and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong-doers be no one to help.

005.073 YUSUFALI: They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity: for there is no god except One Allah. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them.

>>But still christians out of their ignorance do not miss even a trivial chance to abuse and demonize Islam(The religion of God and the way of life).<<

Islam demonizes Christians as blasphemers. Were you ignorant of this fact? You should be enlightened to what your Allah thinks of Christains after you read the verses I have quoted above. Muslims have also been asked to fight Christians until they convert or pay the humiliation tax, jiziya (9:29).

>>Shariah is indeed bane for those who want to continue living like animals but a boon for those who realize the status of human values.<<

Sharia allows the keeping, taking and trading of slaves. Do you consider that as a boon for slaves? Sharia allows the thrashing of your wives if you even suspect they will be disobedient. Is 4:34 which allows this indignity on women a boon for them? Allah gives a woman's brother double the share in her father's property (Muslims lamely claim that this is because men have to provide for the family). Sharia allows the chopping of people's hands even for petty thefts. Read:

005.038 YUSUFALI: As to the thief, Male or female, cut off his or her hands: a punishment by way of example, from Allah, for their crime: and Allah is Exalted in power

Bukhari Volume 8, Book 81, Number 780: Narrated 'Aisha:

The Prophet said, "The hand should be cut off for stealing something that is worth a quarter of a Dinar or more."

Volume 8, Book 81, Number 781: Narrated 'Aisha:

The Prophet said, "The hand of a thief should be cut off for stealing a quarter of a Dinar."

Volume 8, Book 81, Number 782: Narrated 'Aisha:

The Prophet said, "The hand should be cut off for stealing a quarter of a Dinar."

004.093 YUSUFALI: If a man kills a believer intentionally, his recompense is Hell, to abide therein (For ever): And the wrath and the curse of Allah are upon him, and a dreadful penalty is prepared for him. [What if he kills a non-Muslims??]

The Koran and Sharia treat people especially slaves, women and non-Muslims like animals. It calls for inhumane punishments. It discriminates between a Muslim and non-Muslim crime. Is this the justice system you want humanity to live by?

>>we as human beings want peaceful society with no crime where no mother is raped,no sister is molested ,no brother dies out of hunger along with his wife and children,no father has to take bribe to get his children taught well in decent schools.no family whose daughter is going to get married has fear of money being stolen because if it happens they can not afford diabolical dowry.no unemployed youth has to commit suicide because of poverty.<<

Do Muslims who live under sharia not commit these crimes too and in ample measure at that? You are implying that such crimes happen because there is no sharia. People who lived under sharia during the time of the four caliphs also committed a great many crimes. The rulings of the four rightly-guided caliphs are proof of this. The sharia allows for wildly varying rulings. Modern day Muslims jurists might dispute some of the terribly unjust sharia rules laid down by classical jurists but when push comes to shove they seem to revert to the ancient jurisprudents.

In India in 2005 a mother was raped by her father-in-law and the Deobandi scholars ruled she was henceforth unlawful to her husband and lawful to the rapist!

In South Asia Muslim fathers allow the rape, disguised as marriage, of their underage daughters under sharia laws for a few rials from rich Arabs and other Muslims. The reverse dowry, called mehar, is according to classical interpretation of sharia a payment for making the girl's vulva (bud'uha) lawful. To quote Kecia Ali in Progressive Muslims and Islamic Jurisprudence, chapter VII of the book 'Progressive Muslims, on Justice, Gender and Pluralism, page178:" ..the Maliki jusrists…express quite a different role for the dower, stating free woman 'is due her dower, and her vulva [bud'uha] is not made lawful by anything else….Various discussions of the Umm illustrate that dower is 'a price for the vulva' [thaman al-bud] and that 'a woman's fair dower is the fair value of her vulva' [qima mithl al-bud'a mahr mithala]. The commercial aspects of the marriage contract are unremarkable for the jurists. For example, in discussing a situation where a slave was specified as the wife's dower, Al Shafi states that 'she sold him her vulva for the slave' [ba'athu bud'aha bi'abd." The references quoted for these are Mudawwana, K al-Nikah V, 'Fi ihlal', 2:292. Umm, K al sadaq, 'Fi'l sadaq bi aynihi yatl:afu qabala dafahu', , 5:92 and Al-Umm, K al-Nafaqat 'Ikhtilaf al rajul wa l-mar'a fi'l-khul, 5:30

This is the status the sharia gives to women as per the interpretation of some of the great jurists of Islam – just a piece of flesh, a vulva, to be traded for a price, the mehr. How many takers for sharia, even among Muslims, do you expect if sharia's true colour is revealed to all.

>>shariah is a solution to these evils along with all the other evils which are malliciously increasing in our world.<<

Let me cite an example of what happens in a sharia ruled country:

"Around the middle of March 2002, Saudi newspapers reported an incident that took place in Mecca, the Prophet Muhammad's birthplace, that should have caused a public outcry, investigations, and prosecutions. Instead nothing happened, and the incident is now all but forgotten. According to official count, at least fourteen young girls burned to death or were asphyxiated by smoke when an accidental fire engulfed their public school. Parent who arrived at the scene described the horrific scene in which the doors of the school were locked from the outside, and the Saudi religious police, known as the mutawwa'un, forcibly prevented girls from escaping the burning school and also prevented firemen from entering the school to save the girls……witnesses told Saudi newspapers that mutawwa'un yelled at the police and firemen to stay back, and beat several firemen, as they commanded the girls to go back into the burning building and retrieve their veils before being allowed to leave the school. Several parents saw at least three girls being beaten with sticks and kicked when they attempted to argue with they attempted to argue with the mutaww'un. Several girls did obey the mutawwa'un, and returned to the school to retrieve their veils, only to be found dead later." The footntes inform us that the Saudi government later put gag on the media. From Progressive Muslims, chapter I 'The Ugly Modern and the Modern Ugly… by Khaled Abou El Fadl, Published Oneworld, Oxford.

This was sheer evil perpetrated in the name of Sharia. You cannot combat evil with evil in society, you will only end up with an evil society as is the Saudi society.

Regards

Plato

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