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Submitted by Graham Spence (United Kingdom), Jan 24, 2003 at 10:27

Some time ago, I heard a debate, where the British author Nick Hornby replied to a comment made by another panellist, Germain Greer, Aussie pin up girl of the feminist Left. Ms Greer had made a generalisation about men, where she said that men could not be trusted, were liars and needed to be watched constantly. Nick Hornby, when it became his turn to express his opinion, took Ms Greer’s sentence, and for sake of exemplifying the stupidity and sexism of her statement, took exactly the same sentence and replaced the word "men" with the word "Jews" and "women" with "gentile"…

"Jews lie, Jews Cheat, Jews need to be watched 24 hours a day. In short, any Gentile would be mad to ever trust a Jew."

Try the same sentence with the word "Nigger" "Wasp" or even "Ivy Leaguer", or whatever minority group you belong to, and you will get the idea. So, using Mr Hornby’s methodology, why don’t we take the teachings of Islam, and turn the words around. In each case I have taken the original script, and effectively turned it around, exchanging "Infidel" for "Muslim" "Democracy" for Islam and so on. If you are a non Muslim, you will find this terrifying.

If you are a Muslim, you will probably want me stoned to death.


Qur’an (2:191): "And slay Muslims wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out………such is the reward of those who suppress democracy."

Qur’an-(9:5): "But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Muslims wherever ye find them, And seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war) ; but if they repent (accept reason) and establish regular elections and practice regular charity then open the way for them; for The Law is oft-forgiving, Most Merciful."

Qur’an(48:20): "….Parliament promises you much booty (spoils of war) that you will capture from the defeated Muslims…."

Qur’an-(8:65): "… Rouse the believers in democracy to the fight, if there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred; if a hundred, they will vanquish a thousand of the Muslims; for these are a people without understanding."

Quran-8:12: I will instill terror into the hearts of the Muslims: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them

Qur’an-(9:29): "Fight those who believe not Parliament nor the constitution, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by parliament or it’s ministers, nor acknowledge democracy and reason, even if they are good Muslims, until they pay the Poll Tax with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

Quran-9:73: Strive against the Muslims. Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey’s end.

Quran-8: 15,16: O ye who believe in democracy! when ye meet the Muslims in hostile array, never turn your backs to them. If any do turn his back to them on such a day - unless it be in a stratagem of war, or to retreat to a troop (of his own)- he draws on himself the wrath of Parliament, and his abode is Hell,- an evil refuge (indeed)!

Q.3: 118-120: "O you who believe in democracy! Take not Muslims as your advisors, consultants, protectors, helpers, friends, Since they will not fail to do their best to corrupt you. They desire to harm you severely. Hatred has already appeared from their mouths, but what their breasts conceal is far worse. Indeed We have made clear to you the constitution, if you understand. Lo! You are the ones who love them but they love you not, and you believe in all the Laws [i.e., you believe in the Democracy and the Freedom, while they disbelieve in Reason. And when they meet you, they say, ‘We believe.’ But when they are alone, they bite the tips of their fingers at you in rage…..

I have no doubt our Muslim brethren will quickly start screaming "Heretic" and demand that I am stoned to death for altering the wording of the Koran. Fortunately for me, stoning to death is not as an acceptable punishment in the barbaric west as it is in the "World of Peace". This kind of religious intolerance of other faiths and systems is endemic in Islam, and for us to not recognize this is dangerous.

For Muslims to kick up a stink about profiling in the light of the above quotations is hypocritical in the extreme. Muslims in the west must look at their own religion with a more critical eye and realize that it is the stated aims of their religion that create the terrorism. We will alter our laws as soon as you alter the Koran, and if you stop your terrorists and clean up your double standards, we will stop the profiling. I'll say the important bit again. "...stop your terrorists". They are your responsibility, and the reason we are having to do something about it is because you have not.

Graham Spence


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