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The word islam and salam have nothing in common except a common root
Reader comment on item: "Islam" Does Not Mean "Peace"
in response to reader comment: Bernard Lewis says that Islam means peace

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Jul 5, 2007 at 06:34

Again the genius of the semitic languages grammar is the root system; and in this case we have the root SLM and yes the words Islam and salam belong to the same root SLM but each word belongs to a different stem and this is what makes all the difference. So we have: Yislam (he becomes Muslim), Islami (belongs to islam), Islam (deen al-Islam), and the other stem in this case is: Yusalim (he provides greetings), and salam or peace. We also have the stems: yistaslim (he surrenders in the secular sense), istislam or surrendering again in the secular sense. And then we have yastalim or he receives and Istilam or the receiving. And you would agree with me that receiving and surrendering and peace do not have the same meaning.

If so why would you believe that the word islam and salam have anything in common except a common root?

And like I say: kafr means village and a kafir means an infidel and I'm sure you agree with me that they both belong to the same stem KFR but a kafir is not a village and islam is not peace!


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Islam has never and will never mean peace. It means kill the other guy. [42 words]Ames TiedemanSep 13, 2007 16:14
in response to Ames Tiedman [61 words]LoopsOct 2, 2007 08:12
Hello Daniel [190 words]Abdul SalaamJun 23, 2008 13:58
To Mr. Ben Loops [76 words]Ames TiedemanJun 24, 2008 17:53
Mr. Salaam: [115 words]Ames TiedemanJun 24, 2008 17:59
Ref: Abdul Salaam [49 words]PAULJan 13, 2009 23:26
Hello Ames [542 words]Abdul SalaamJan 24, 2009 16:07
islam has not meant peace in terms of actions ie. 9/11 [112 words]Phil GreendAug 3, 2007 16:22
Response to Seamus [135 words]MikeJul 6, 2007 10:39
Bernard Lewis says that Islam means peace
[w/response] [68 words]
Amjad M. KhanJul 1, 2007 10:43
⇒ The word islam and salam have nothing in common except a common root [192 words]dhimmi no moreJul 5, 2007 06:34
Peace = Submission [10 words]DanJun 20, 2007 14:37
Peace through submission to Allah? [48 words]Linda HaslamJun 22, 2007 11:55
In response to Peace and Submission [151 words]the WoodMar 5, 2008 11:25
Unstoppable youth bulges and an increasingly Islamic Europe have the potential to cause massive conflicts and genocide. [3070 words]warren thomsonJun 17, 2007 18:14
For the readers of the thread: The words islam and salam revisited [146 words]dhimmi no moreJun 16, 2007 13:06
Islam = submission: PERIOD [48 words]YnnatchkahJun 16, 2007 23:51
Thank you Ynna but! [64 words]dhimmi no moreJun 17, 2007 20:52
My Dear Ynnatchka [450 words]Seamus MacNemiJun 18, 2007 00:00
But I like my screen name [72 words]dhimmi no moreJun 18, 2007 19:17
DHIMMI WILL YOU LISTEN FOR ONCE? [205 words]Seamus MacNemiJun 19, 2007 20:59
Mafish Maschara Seamus MacNemi [68 words]SophieJun 21, 2007 17:46
Our dear Seamus and logic [60 words]dhimmi no moreJun 21, 2007 20:08
You still did not answer my question [66 words]dhimmi no moreJun 21, 2007 20:12
My dear Sophie [266 words]Seamus MacNemiJun 22, 2007 04:14
Our dear seamus [74 words]dhimmi no moreJun 22, 2007 06:45
Whishful Thinking Khawaja Seamus [98 words]SophieJun 22, 2007 22:36
Dhimm The Torah Does Not Say Anything About Being "Created". The Word Is Made Manifest. [66 words]Seamus MacNemiJun 23, 2007 01:22
Islam means NOTHING to me and neither does ALLAH I do not speak Arabic I speak HEBREW [473 words]Saemus MacNemiJun 23, 2007 05:07
I'll try to explain it to you one more time [637 words]Seamus MacNemiJun 23, 2007 14:05
Sophia means Wisdom---NOT in this case [188 words]Seamus MacNemiJun 23, 2007 17:58
Listen we are both infidels, at least this is what Angela believes [310 words]dhimmi no moreJun 23, 2007 18:45
Armageddon Comimg Soon To A Theater Near You. [603 words]Seamus MacNemiJun 24, 2007 04:17
So is it creation or is it Zuhuur? That is the question! [166 words]dhimmi no moreJun 24, 2007 08:07
Peace and our dear Angela [190 words]dhimmi no moreJun 24, 2007 08:21
Thank you, Seamus [163 words]Angela ClassJun 24, 2007 12:51
Our dear Angela and more fantasy [131 words]dhimmi no moreJun 24, 2007 16:49
ROTFL Marvin Minsky and the Arabic language and our dear Angela [77 words]dhimmi no moreJun 24, 2007 17:16
Seamus and his drama [91 words]dhimmi no moreJun 24, 2007 17:28
A Child Sees With Childish Eyes [255 words]Seamus MacNemiJun 24, 2007 20:29
Exposed? Who is really exposed here? [101 words]Seamus MacNemiJun 24, 2007 20:49
Back To Lady Angela [229 words]Seamus MacNemiJun 24, 2007 21:19
But the word islam means [78 words]dhimmi no moreJun 25, 2007 06:43
Our dear Angela and pontificating about our dear Seamus' funny Arabic [201 words]dhimmi no moreJun 25, 2007 07:06
Our dear Seamus but our dear Angela regards you as an infidel and what are you going to do about it? [61 words]dhimmi no moreJun 25, 2007 18:13
I read this as: you have no answer [73 words]dihmmi no moreJun 25, 2007 18:34
How Many Muslims Really Understand Arabic? [445 words]Seamus MacNemiJun 25, 2007 20:11
Translation of Quais, Mafish Maskhara, Majnun [16 words]SophieJun 26, 2007 03:59
Our dear Seamus and his damsel in distress and the word Islam and the Hellenes [604 words]dhimmi no moreJun 26, 2007 07:39
Dhimmi god Demagogue [290 words]Seamus MacNemiJun 26, 2007 23:51
Quit beating your dead horse [127 words]Seamus MacNemiJun 27, 2007 00:28
Alright lets have a real go at this point by point [373 words]Seamus MacNemiJun 27, 2007 12:03
It's gotten awfully quiet around here [27 words]Seamus MacNemiJun 28, 2007 09:49
Do you really know what is a dhimmi? [6 words]dihmmi no moreJun 28, 2007 17:37
Hi Sophie [83 words]dhimmi no moreJun 28, 2007 18:03
And? So now it is about your ego! I see [48 words]dhimmi no moreJun 28, 2007 18:22
What is a "Dhimmi" [222 words]Seamus MacNemiJun 28, 2007 19:02
Hi Sophie and the word is Kuwayis and not Quais as our dear Seamus wrote [31 words]dhimmi no moreJun 28, 2007 20:01
I just thought of something [419 words]Saenus MacNemiJun 29, 2007 03:49
Our dear Seamus and beating a dead horse [316 words]dhimmi no moreJun 29, 2007 06:48
Quais-Kuais??? Hey, I don't read Arabic [101 words]Seamusn MacNemiJun 29, 2007 17:38
What else does Islam "NOT" mean?? [591 words]Seamus MacNemiJun 30, 2007 01:36
The word Dhimmi and our dear Seamus [63 words]dhimmi no moreJun 30, 2007 06:11
Well said but this is not what Islamists have in mind [145 words]dhimmi no moreJun 30, 2007 06:36
I SAID THAT I DO NOT KNOW THE PRECISE MEANING OF DHIMMI [120 words]Seamus MacNemiJun 30, 2007 19:33
YOU STILL HAVEN'T TOLD WHAT ELSE ISLAM DOES 'NOT' MEAN. [114 words]Seamus MacNemiJun 30, 2007 19:53
You mean the word islam? [69 words]dhimmi no moreJul 1, 2007 17:10
Is it really important what the Islamists have in mind? [431 words]Seamus MacNemiJul 2, 2007 02:13
Peace [35 words]sabermanJun 14, 2007 08:56
Hermeneutics and intepretation, something for those without in advanced studies? [59 words]MariaJun 13, 2007 12:20
Brava Maria! [22 words]Angela ClassJun 13, 2007 20:20
FYI-Re:Hermeneutics and Orientalism [318 words]Angela ClassJun 13, 2007 23:05
It is called a language that Angela does not know! [192 words]dhimmi no moreJun 14, 2007 07:27
ROTFL and big time falsafa our dear Angela and hermeneutics and orientalism and other sordid matters [67 words]dhimmi no moreJun 14, 2007 22:00
inquisition [14 words]bosFeb 18, 2008 16:32
Islam does equal peace [46 words]FundamentalistJun 12, 2007 23:36
People of the Book [813 words]Angela ClassJun 13, 2007 22:02
Islam = War even among Muslims [34 words]Oscar NavarroJun 14, 2007 09:15
Islam [120 words]donvanJun 14, 2007 15:19
Our dear Anglea needs to get her money back from her madrassa [312 words]dhimmi no moreJun 14, 2007 20:34
NON SENSE.. [82 words]DONVANJun 15, 2007 11:55
what islam really means [7 words]hayaJun 12, 2007 20:55
Allah not God [41 words]Oscar NavarroJun 14, 2007 09:21
Not The Same God [57 words]AnneMJun 14, 2007 23:19
Trading one tyranny for another? [867 words]Angela ClassJun 12, 2007 18:30
Amen To You Ms. Angela Class [324 words]Seamus MacNemiJun 15, 2007 22:50
four wives ... [98 words]OliverJun 19, 2007 22:51
don't you dare say anything about muhammad [85 words]rehnaJan 22, 2008 19:28
respect [123 words]bosFeb 18, 2008 16:51
Yes, there are good and bad people in every group [393 words]Angela ClassJun 11, 2007 17:30
Jesus was not a prophet at least this is what the Qur'an really says [44 words]dihmmi no moreJun 11, 2007 20:42
Kindergarten knowledge and Muhammad came to teach us peace! Really? [80 words]dhimmi no moreJun 11, 2007 21:08
"The Qur'an does not teach that Jesus is God, but only a Prophet." [529 words]Angela ClassJun 12, 2007 19:34
Agree with you up to a point [101 words]Oscar NavarroJun 13, 2007 00:08
But the Qur'an really says that jesus is God [90 words]dhimmi no moreJun 13, 2007 19:45
Big Sufi Falsafa, celestial teas and our dear Angela [710 words]dhimmi no moreJun 14, 2007 07:01
Smell Test: Angela Class [100 words]MikeJun 15, 2007 03:06
where does it say so? [146 words]Lactantius Jr.Jun 18, 2007 07:23
The Qur'an really says that Jesus is God [27 words]dhimmi no moreJun 18, 2007 19:03
jesus is a prophet [33 words]rehnaJan 22, 2008 19:33
So Islam really means peace? really? [107 words]dhimmi no moreJun 10, 2007 14:03
You're so busy being silly, you still haven't refuted my argument [641 words]Angela ClassJun 10, 2007 20:43
Angela Class and Al Taqyia- TO Dhimmi no More [228 words]YnnatchkahJun 11, 2007 03:20
Hypocrisy and Deceit??? [111 words]JaladhiJun 11, 2007 14:41
No, bogus again [141 words]dihmmi no moreJun 11, 2007 18:34
Oh I forgot: Refute what? [200 words]dhimmi no moreJun 11, 2007 18:51
For Ynnatchkah and our dear Angela [82 words]dhimmi no moreJun 11, 2007 19:03
Muslim girls? Where does this come from? [583 words]Angela ClassJun 11, 2007 20:56
Now pay attention, Dhimmi, or don't keep bothering me [305 words]Angela ClassJun 11, 2007 22:17
Islam = Submission [220 words]Oscar NavarroJun 12, 2007 01:12
The word Islam revisited [301 words]dihmmi no moreJun 12, 2007 07:42
Islam means surrender [45 words]SophieJun 12, 2007 09:06
Fundamentalists of the World Unite! [269 words]Angela ClassJun 12, 2007 19:07
Rumi's Islam [180 words]Angela ClassJun 12, 2007 19:51
Our dear Angela: If you cannot stand the heat! oh well you know the rest [123 words]dhimmi no moreJun 12, 2007 20:27
One word Bogus [69 words]dhimmi no moreJun 12, 2007 20:37
I must disagree [258 words]dhimmi no moreJun 12, 2007 20:55
Angela does not get it [39 words]dhimmi no moreJun 13, 2007 06:55
Just amazing [340 words]dhimmi no moreJun 13, 2007 07:27
Absurd indeed [134 words]donvanJun 13, 2007 09:03
Now it is symbolism [55 words]dhimmi no moreJun 13, 2007 19:26
More bogus falsafa by no other [30 words]dhimmi no moreJun 13, 2007 19:28
And so is Christianity and so is Hinduism [42 words]dhimmi no moreJun 13, 2007 19:37
What I can't stand is the Hot Air [531 words]Angela ClassJun 13, 2007 20:17
Shalom having several meanings [137 words]RonanJun 13, 2007 22:50
TO Dhimmi No More: Follow up about Angela Class subject [228 words]YnnatchkahJun 14, 2007 12:44
I read this as! [54 words]dhimmi no moreJun 14, 2007 18:47
Shalom/Salam Ronan [111 words]dhimmi no moreJun 14, 2007 22:22
The word salam has other meanings? you must be kidding [32 words]dhimmi no moreJun 14, 2007 22:25
Good things come in small packages [212 words]SophieJun 15, 2007 01:13
to Angela Class and loving arab religion [197 words]ASJun 16, 2007 02:39
Well said Sophie [19 words]dhimmi no moreJun 16, 2007 07:34
Another gem from none other than our dear Angela [121 words]dhimmi no moreJun 16, 2007 13:39
Slight correction [10 words]dhimmi no moreJun 17, 2007 18:12
You can't make a silk purse out of a ... [59 words]OliverJun 19, 2007 23:46
actions speak louder than words [175 words]Phil GreendJun 3, 2007 19:40
"Lost in Translation" [389 words]Angela ClassMay 29, 2007 21:29
Our dear Angela Class really lost in translation [140 words]dhimmi no moreJun 10, 2007 12:45
How about if we try sticking to the topic? [627 words]Angela ClassJun 10, 2007 19:28
"Submission" (to ISLAM) [97 words]DONVANJun 11, 2007 11:13
Our dear Angela Class really lost in translation again and again [38 words]dhimmi no moreJun 11, 2007 18:27
What topic? [103 words]dihmmi no moreJun 11, 2007 19:44
Submission to God, not some petty tyrants [195 words]Angela ClassJun 11, 2007 21:22
Yeah, I'm not surprised you have to ask that question... [191 words]Angela ClassJun 11, 2007 21:49
It matters little... [173 words]donvanJun 12, 2007 15:57
Bogus again [57 words]dhimmi no moreJun 12, 2007 20:19
SLM is called a root not a construction [144 words]dhimmi no moreJun 12, 2007 21:07
Our dear Angela Class really lost in translation part trois [494 words]dhimmi no moreJun 12, 2007 21:52
Dhimmi, I give up, I can't overpower your ignorance with logic and I won't try anymore. [161 words]Angela ClassJun 13, 2007 19:01
If it were about grammar then your English would disqualify you from speaking here.. [136 words]Angela ClassJun 13, 2007 20:44
Note for our ESL readers [47 words]Angela ClassJun 13, 2007 22:17
The issue is here the Arabic language madam [27 words]dhimmi no moreJun 14, 2007 18:43
Our dear Anglela lost in nahw wa qawa3id [88 words]dhimmi no moreJun 14, 2007 18:56
Too late: It is called the root and the stems from the root and not construction. Oh the ego thing again [95 words]dihmmi no moreJun 14, 2007 19:06
Our dear Anglela [143 words]dihmmi no moreJun 14, 2007 19:25
More evidence that our dear Anglela does not know any Arabic or logic and has a big ego [256 words]dhimmi no moreJun 14, 2007 19:55
Our dear Angela's original gems revisited [515 words]dhimmi no moreJun 15, 2007 07:10
To The Lady Angela Class [271 words]Seamus MacNemiJun 16, 2007 00:40
Note To Dhimmi No More [189 words]Seamus MacNemiJun 16, 2007 01:06
al-Imam al-ghayib aka our dear Angela [177 words]dhimmi no moreJun 16, 2007 13:57
Note to Seamus MacNemi [169 words]MikeJun 16, 2007 16:37
re: To The Lady Angela Class [380 words]MikeJun 16, 2007 20:57
Our dear Seamus and Mecca [102 words]dhimmi no moreJun 17, 2007 07:23
Again to Dhimmi no more- Language is what we make of it. [542 words]Seamus MacNemiJun 17, 2007 10:28
Our dear Seamus ... [40 words]dhimmi no moreJun 17, 2007 17:38
Well Mikey Boy [265 words]Seamus MacNemiJun 17, 2007 20:09
Back to Dhimmi No More [371 words]Seamus MacNemiJun 17, 2007 20:50
AGAIN TO SEAMUS !!!!!!!!!!!! [221 words]MikeJun 17, 2007 21:01
Back to Mr Mike. [327 words]Seamus MacNemiJun 17, 2007 21:30
Again to Mike and Dhimmi No More [258 words]Seamus MacNemiJun 18, 2007 00:59
The Serpents Subtle Tongue To Mike [292 words]Saemus MacNemiJun 18, 2007 18:39
Whatever [34 words]dhimmi no moreJun 18, 2007 19:08
Back to Dhimmi No More [381 words]Seamus MacNemiJun 19, 2007 20:10
Yes they are! [145 words]dihmmi no moreJun 20, 2007 07:51
Whatever again and again [16 words]dhimmi no moreJun 20, 2007 19:45
Ouch ... that hurts ... [245 words]OwenJun 20, 2007 21:42
Speaking of being a majnun and "understand what"? [144 words]dhimmi no moreJun 21, 2007 07:00
Dear Dhimmi [605 words]Seamus MacNemiJun 22, 2007 03:36
In Reply to Owen [65 words]Seamus MacNemiJun 22, 2007 04:23

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