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What does Victory mean?

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Submitted by linda rice-mandigo (United States), Apr 30, 2010 at 09:07

Dear Daniel,

This is the first time in a long time someone who is a great scholar of the Middle East has said this so clearly. I was beginning to wonder if anyone else thought the whole two state solution was just the Palestinians way of re-arming and trying to destroy Israel again. I just don't trust them. I think the occupation has been a terrible mistake when what needed to happen was to claim victory after the last war and before the Intifada ever began.

But what does Victory mean? It is so unfortunate that there are many good people who did want peace with Israel and co-operation, like my friend the Arab journalist whom Hamas murdered. The suicide bombers do not value life. You can't win a war with that kind of person.. The more Israel gives in, the less the Arabs respect them. It is a shame but it is a cultural thing. Negotiation and compromise is not respected in their world. This is a fundamentalist mentality that feeds an already brainwashed population.

Please tell me how Israel finds Victory and claims it. Jihad is like a cancer. It is so many different things now claiming so many lives in so many places. The US can't even get out of Afghanistan. Please write more Daniel. I am always listening.

linda rice-mandigo

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Daniel Pipes replies:

I addressed your point in my article: "although the Palestinians have built an awesome reputation for endurance, they can be beaten. If the Germans and Japanese could be forced to give up in 1945 and the Americans in 1975, how can Palestinians be exempt from defeat?"

More specifically, in reply to your question, "The suicide bombers do not value life. You can't win a war with that kind of person":

First, not all Palestinians are suicide bombers.

Second, the willingness to give up one's life for a cause requires one to think that the sacrifice has some utility; very few people will throw away their life for something they consider futile. Therefore, if the Israelis manage to convince the Palestinians that the goal of eliminating Israel is futile, the number of suicide bombers will surely decline dramataically.

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