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Koran promoting terrorism - how could you possibly even think such a thing?

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Submitted by the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan (Australia), Jan 1, 2010 at 22:13

Skyhigh, writing from japan, where he has first hand experience of the divisive nature of islam due to having to deal with the large Islamic minority living there, writes:

"Is there any passage in the Koran that promotes terrorism"

That depends on which psychopath you ask. Some would say that killing infidels isn't terrorism - it is getting rid of people that allah doesn't like.

http://www.jtf.org/info/koran.quotes.htm

STRIKE THE HEADS AND EVERY FINGERTIP OF THE UNBELIEVERS

YUSUFALI: Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them."
PICKTHAL: When thy Lord inspired the angels, (saying): I am with you. So make those who believe stand firm. I will throw fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Then smite the necks and smite of them each finger.
SHAKIR: When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them. [http://www.hraicjk.org/quran/2.html [NOTE; This copy of the Koran offers three different translations]

8: 13. When thy Lord revealed to the angels, saying, 'I am with you; so make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Smite them above their necks, and smite off all finger-tips.'
8: 14. That is because they have opposed ALLAH and HIS Messenger. And whoso opposes ALLAH and HIS Messenger, Then ALLAH is surely Severe in retribution. [The Holy Quran, translated by Maulvi Sher Ali, "Bible Concordance".

47: 5. And when you meet in regular battle those who disbelieve, smite their necks; and, when you have overcome them, by causing great slaughter among them, bind fast the fetters - then afterwards either release them as a favour or by taking ransom - until the war lays down its burdens. That is the ordinance. And if ALLAH had so pleased, HE could have punished them Himself, but HE has willed that HE may try some of you by others. And those who are killed in the way of ALLAH - HE will never render their works vain.
[Ibid.]

KILL THEM WHEREVER YOU FIND THEM

YUSUFALI: And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith.
PICKTHAL: And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers.
SHAKIR: And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers. [http://www.hraicjk.org/quran/2.html [NOTE; This copy of the Koran offers three different translations]

CONVERSION BY THE SWORD - REPENT OR DIE

YUSUFALI: But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
PICKTHAL: Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
SHAKIR: So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. [Emphasis added] [http://www.hraicjk.org/quran/2.html [NOTE; This copy of the Koran offers three different translations]

WAR AGAINST CHRISTIANS

"Make war upon such of those to whom the Scriptures have been given as believe not in God, or in the last day, and who forbid not that which God and His Apostle have forbidden, and who profess not the profession of the truth, until they pay tribute out of hand, and they be humbled. The Jews say, 'Ezra (Ozair) is a son of God'; and the Christians say, 'The Messiah is a son of God'. Such the sayings in their mouths! They resemble the sayings of the Infidels of old! God do battle with them! How are they misguided!..He it is who hath sent His Apostle with the Guidance and a religion of the truth, that He may make it victorious over every other religion, albeit they who assign partners to God be averse from it." (Sura 9:29-33).

Also translated thusly: 9: 29. Fight those from among the people of the Book, who believe not in ALLAH, nor in the Last Day, nor hold as unlawful what ALLAH and HIS Messenger have declared to be unlawful, nor follow the true religion, until they pay the tax considering it a favour and acknowledge their subjection.
9: 30. And the Jews say, 'Ezra is the son of ALLAH,' and the Christians say, 'the Messiah is the son of ALLAH;' that is what they say with their mouths. They only imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before them. ALLAH's curse be on them ! How they are turned away. http://www.concordance.com/cgi-bin/1wrdr.pl]

"Believers! wage war against such of the infidels as are your neighbours, and let them find you rigorous: and know that God is with those who fear him." (Sura 9:124).

"O Prophet! make war on the infidels and hypocrites, and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their abode! and wretched the passage to it!" (Sura 66:9).

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"There are terrorists, and there are Islamites. And there may be a terrorist Islamite. "
Maybe? 'A', just one? How about hundreds of thousands plus who are either current or latent sociopaths hiding behind the guise of that particular 'religion'

"But that is nothing more than a coincidence. You should see the difference between a coincidence and a causal relation."
If it was just one - it could well be a coincidence. The fact that it is a figure much, much higher than that implies a causal relationship. So it is you who should do some work on statistics. How many Christians would there be in the world today for example? And how many plane bombings or suicide bombings in large crowds do you har of carried out by irate Bapists or Shinto practitioners?

The fact that suicide bombings occur in afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq and other countries on an almost daily basis doesn't get you at least suspecting that there may be a relationship between the fact that all of these suicide bombers (and other murderers ) follow the cult of Islam?

"These two are too often mistakenly regarded as the same thing."
It's all very well sitting back in our armchairs and pontificating about things - but there's nothing like experience to make the obvious, obvious. Maybe you should get out more . Take a trip to Afghanistan - and directly experience the hospitality of the folk there as part of an anthropological experiment. See how well you'd be treated - especially if you were Japanese - and perhaps even a Buddhist 'polytheist'.

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