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This is War, let us conduct as they would.
Reader comment on article: In Iraq, Stay the Course - but Change It

Submitted by D Williams (United States), Oct 24, 2006 at 20:48

Respectfully Mr. Pipes I do not think that will resolve the issue.

There is the possibility that only ruthlessness will prevail in Iraq. Firstly, all Iraqi people should be cataloged and finger printed. Borders should be sealed and closed. Anyone wishing to come into the country should require a sponsor. The sponsor is critical. Two things must happen for the sponsor to be allowed. First he cannot be on the suspected terrorist list, and second he must swear out a statement forfeiting his life and the life of his family should his sponsored applicant engage in terrorist activity.

When a terrorist attacks, and he has been sponsored, the entire family of the sponsor should be killed and the sponsor imprisoned in a slave camp. Explore that thought for a moment. Iran is, for the most part, a rather stable and dependable country. It rules its people with an iron and death. Saddam did this too and we called him a monster. I think Saddam did this because he understood the Arab mind. He understood that Arabs are by nature and breeding a vicious and dangerous people. When left in a peaceful situation without the threat of death hanging over their heads, they will rebel in violent and horrible ways.

Americans are so far removed from such incivility that they are appalled and the steps that Arabs and other third world people are willing to take in order to attain their goals. Bear in mind that the goal of Islam is to rule the world. Saddam understood that, but he was not Muslim. He used the Muslim against each other, and that was vile to all Islamic nations around him; especially Iran, the facilitator of Islam.

Iran has grown stronger while the US has been distracted by Iraq and Afghanistan. They have used minimal resources to train and send foreign insurgents into Iraq. This "civil" war is being instigated in Iraq because Iran understands the situation better than the Democratic leadership does. Islam is at war with the west. Iran spends a few million dollars a month to equip, train, and export "insurgents" into Iraq, while the US spends billions of dollars a month. You don't have to be an economics major to see the direction of this.

Since Iran is such a point of contention I propose that "insurgents" be sent into Iran to conduct the same sort of operations there, which they are operating in Iraq. There is a large enemy Muslim stronghold operating right next to Iraq. It is insane to leave it intact. It harkens back to the Vietnam conflict and leaving the communist strongholds intact in Laos and Cambodia. Will we never learn? At least put some of the 45 billion dollars a month into covert actions in Iran and start upsetting their operations. This would cause them to redirect some of their energies to securing their own country and allow operations in Iraq a chance to succeed.

Another area of aggravation is in my opinion that Iraq Muslims want the same thing as other Muslims, as dictated by their religion; they are to dominate the world. We got rid of Saddam, and he was an iron fisted obstacle to their goals, and now we stand in the way, with (in their opinion) our weak spineless approach to managing the situation. Americans are by their nature too refined, advanced, and modern to be able to deal with a people whose hearts and minds reside in the 8th century. The bottom line is that we are at war with Islam, and no side stepping the issue will change that. This is not a war that was declared by us it was declared by Mohammad 1400 years ago. Further this is a war we are going to fight sooner or later. The later it becomes the less chance we have of winning.

Returning Iraq to a Muslim people is tantamount to taking hills in Vietnam one day and then leaving them to the enemy the next.

Name me Islamic countries that are not working against our interest. Name an Islamic country that is not sponsoring terrorism. Now tell me exactly what we will achieve, or have achieved by removing Saddam?

This war is being waged NOW! Retreating to the desert will not change that. We leave the cities to the insurgents and Iran has achieved yet another victory. Consider this, as the killing fields of Bagdad rage, are our troops supposed to ignore it? As the people who supported the US and our troops are butchered and purged fro the world of Islam, how could we ever be taken seriously again? And when Iran controls the cities how are we going to get our troops out then?

Without striking into Iran we will never win this war.


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The Forgotten Question. [145 words]MelMOct 30, 2006 18:57
Retreat to the Nevada desert [288 words]Bader SOct 29, 2006 09:59
Retreat to Saudi Arabia before the Taliban take over.. [361 words]HarrakOct 29, 2006 21:21
Leave Iraq and make it Afghanistan Number 2 [177 words]American MuslimDec 10, 2006 23:17
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