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Shoebat's response to Moshe Katz

Reader comment on item: Walid Shoebat: "Palestinian turns from radical Muslim to true Zionist"
in response to reader comment: Walid Shoebat - hero or snakeoil salesman?

Submitted by Walid Shoebat (Mexico), Nov 8, 2005 at 15:12

Mr. Moshe Katz

I have read your "snake oil" comments about myself. Your first offense is that you broke one of the ten commandments - You shall not bear false witness. You did:

" In the end he is a former member of the Christian Phangist (Fascist) party who's making a living telling Jews what they want to hear."

I would LOVE to prove your lie. Will you be willing to have me prove you a liar? Mr. Katz, lets put your money where your mouth is. Send me a note to Walid@shoebat.com, we will set up a meeting and I will be glad to prove that I am not Lebanese, Phalangist... I would love to prove to you your doubts, but I doubt that you are even willing to examine the evidence.

Why would you say things you are not sure of? I am not sure that you are Moshe Katz as you claim, should I say that you are a Palestinian implant who just wants to cause division and doubt? Should I do what you do?

Your second offense is your statement "never trust a man who sells out his own people". In this case then "Hashem" had made the mistake of honoring Rachov who betrayed her own people and stood with Israel. I guess the Allmighty in your view would have been wrong? After all you would accuse the Allmighty of choosing prostitutes over others. Tradition even says that Joshua married her.

Your third offense is your sheer stupidity, a thing the Jewish people cannot afford for their survival. It was sheer stupidity that cost so many Jewish lives. Many Jews tend to trust the wrong people, but when the right people come along they doubt. Jews trusted in Oslo and were sold, Jews trusted in Germany and were killed, Jews trusted their Arab employees and where slaughtered....

When will Jews ever trust the right people? Better then this question is this - why should rightous gentiles stand with the Jewish people, risk everything to get stung by so many Jews who doubt them?

Finally you stated:

"[Walid is] making a living telling Jews what they want to hear"

If I want to tell Jews what they want to hear then I would be for a two state solution. In fact, this stand caused many Jews to reject my message. If I am interrested in money, wouldn't you think that I would bring a neutral message and please all?

Fact is, we the Arabs finally succeeded to put a wedge in Jewish unity by calling for a Palestinian state. This is the wedge that divided up Jews and is now the reason for Jewish death and self destruction.

Your statement that no one should trust anyone who betrayed their own people is wrong, the truth is Mr. Katz i- that no one should trust their enemy to make decesions for them.

You stated:
"G*D help us all if Jewish organizations keep buying snakeoil from charlatans"

If indeed I am a charlatan lying to everyone, why would I risk my life for a lie? Why wouldn't I simply carry the same message as Abuna Chacour, Naim Ateek, Emil Salayta, Mahmoud Abbas and the rest of the countless real charlatans Jews trust and you failed to mention? Why would I be "too right wing in his rhetoric"? Why not sit in the middle and "collect" from both sides.

"The wise in heart will receive commandments: but a prating fool shall fall. " (Proverbs 10:8)

I am ashamed of your slander Mr. Katz

Walid Shoebat

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Daniel Pipes replies:

May 18, 2006 response: Walid Shoebat took the time to visit me in my office today and to show me proofs that his life story is a true one. I accept that it is.

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