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in response to reader comment: Please do not compare Islamic terrorists with Timothy McVeigh

Submitted by ahmadzafire (United States), Nov 25, 2009 at 18:24

1. McVeigh did not kill in the name of religion. He did not follow a doctrine in which his way was the only correct way and everyone's else was wrong. No one is denying that some people of all religions commit heinous crimes, we are just saying that Islamists are more prone to violence in the name of religion than others.

I can't agree or disagree with you on this one but what I will say is, that the media plays a big part in the perception of Islam. I hear many say people of the Muslim faith are trying to take over the world. Now knowing that Islam is the largest religion in the world. If that were true then the planet would be under Muslims rule. The majority of Muslims don't think like this people. The few that do terror acts are hurting the religion and If the moderate Muslims don't put our foot down harder. I'm afraid we will then found ourselves fighting two wars. Muslims against Muslim extremist and Muslims against over protective non-Muslims. Not hard to imagine.

2. For crying out loud, McVeigh killed nearly 15 years ago. Islamist kill that many people in a matter of weeks.

I understand your case, I really do but understand me. Every time a person kills,rape or beat etc. They're faith is not called out. No telling if they were true Muslims or people of the Muslim faith that are not faithful to it. The KKK a rascist group here in the US will kill any Jew , black or anyone that's not white with no problem. If you ask them why do they feel that way, They will show you the bible and say it's the word of God. not to mention that they will burn a cross on your lawn in the name of Jesus(pub).

3. McVeigh was an isolated incidence. Islamist's violence is becoming in a multi-national enterprise.

Are you sure? There was more before and after Mr. McVeigh.

Daniel Andreas San Diego, an alleged animal rights extremist from the western U.S. state of California has been added to the Federal Bureau of Investigation's Most Wanted list.

The klu Klux klan: From the end of the Civil War to the end of the Civil Rights Movement, the KKK remained one of the most active domestic terrorist organizations in the U.S.

Whether men: A radical-left organization active between 1969 and 1975, this group referred to itself as the "revolutionary organization of communist women and men." Their mission quite simply was to overthrow the U.S. government. They also sought to change U.S. policy in Vietnam. The Weathermen were responsible for several bombings, including the Pentagon. The group collapsed shortly after the end of the Vietnam War.

The Jewish defense league: Founded in 1969 by Rabbi Meir Kahane in New York City, its mission is to protect Jews from harassment and anti-Semitism. But the FBI reported that between 1980 and 1985, the JDL attempted 15 terrorist attacks inside the U.S.

The Symbioses liberation army: An American radical-left "urban guerrilla warfare group" that considered itself a revolutionary vanguard army. The SLA robbed banks, committed two murders and various other acts of violence between 1973 and 1975. Their most notorious act was kidnapping Patty Hearst.

Amy of God: A loose network of individual and groups tied together ideologically by their opposition to abortion. During the mid 1990s, when anti-abortion violence was increasing steadily, Eric Rudolph bombed two abortion clinics, a gay nightclub and the 1996 Olympics held in Atlanta. He said the bombings were done in the name of the Army of God.

Animal liberation front-Removes animals from laboratories and fur farms, and has sabotaged facilities where animal testing is done. It does not appear as if the ALF has ever endangered human life, but the U.S. Department of Homeland security list the ALF as a terrorist organization nonetheless.

Black liberation Amy: A splinter group made up of the more radical members of the Black Panther Party, the BLA was most active between 1970 and 1981, and its purpose was the overthrow of the U.S. government. Its members were largely African Americans. The police blames the BLA for the murders of 13 police officers. And the U.S. Justice Department claims the BLA committed more than 60 acts of violence.

Here are some notable acts of domestic terrorism:

1910 bombing at los Angeles times building by the McNamara brothers, two Irish-American brothers who wanted to unionize the paper.

1920 —The wall street bombing, where a horse-drawn carriage filled with 100 pounds of dynamite went off across the street from the J.P. Morgan Inc. bank in New York City. It killed 38 and injured 400. No one was convicted of this crime.

1927bath school bombing were committed by a school board member in Michigan who was upset about property taxes. This series of bombings killed 45 and injured 58 — most were children between the ages of 7 and 12.

1978 to 1995The Unabomber attack. A former math professor — Ted Kaczynski, known by the code name UNABOM — sent out numerous letter bombs to academics and other individuals associated with modern technology.

1995 oaklholma city was carried out by right-wing extremist Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols. It killed 168 people and remains the deadliest act of domestic terrorism in U.S. history.

1996Olympic park bombing was the first of four carried out by right-wing Christian and anti-abortion activist Eric Rudolph.

Just as good faithful Christians denounce McVeigh so do good Muslims denounce terrorist

4. No apology came forward to defend McVeigh. Criticism of violence even from most liberal sections of the Islamic world never goes beyond perfunctory lip-service.

Are you sure about this? Here are just a few..


(WASHINGTON, DC - 9/11/2001) - The American Muslim Political Coordination Council (AMPCC), today condemned the apparent terrorist attacks in New York and Washington and offered condolences to the families of those who were killed or injured.

The AMPCC statement read in part:

"American Muslims utterly condemn what are apparently vicious and cowardly acts of terrorism against innocent civilians. We join with all Americans in calling for the swift apprehension and punishment of the perpetrators. No political cause could ever be assisted by such immoral acts."

Leaders of the American Muslim Political Coordination Council (AMPCC) held a meeting in Washington, DC, on Tuesday, September 11, 2001, to issue the following points related to the terrorist attacks:

1) We assert unequivocal condemnation based on our religious values and our identity as American Muslims;

2) We do not need to defend every maniacal incident emanating from the Muslim world or the Muslim community, just as other religious groups need not defend their extremists;

3) We offer compassion to the victims and solidarity with all Americans in the face of danger;

4) Notwithstanding the disbelief that anyone following the faith of Islam could commit such a heinous crime, we condemn the act regardless of the identity of the perpetrators;

5) We deplore the irresponsible reporting that twists the realities and complexities of the Muslim world in order to project only anti-American sentiment during this disturbing period when we are all attempting to move beyond the state of mourning for the national tragedy;

6) We warn against opportunists who will exploit the misery and hysteria of the public in order to promote a political agenda aimed at tarnishing the name of Islam and Muslims;

7) We should not diminish our resolve to be active in protecting the civil liberties of all Americans and struggling for justice both locally and globally;

8) We need to organize activities to help the victims medically, psychologically and in every other way we can.

American Muslim Alliance (AMA) Condemns Terrorist Attack

(Newark, California: 9/11/01) The American Muslim Alliance, a national civic education organization, condemned today's terrorist attacks in New York and Washington in the "strongest terms".

Dr. Agfa Saied, the national Chair of the American Muslim Alliance, Stated:

"These attacks are against both divine and human laws and we condemn them in the strongest terms. The Muslim Americans join the nation in calling for swift apprehension and stiff punishment of the perpetrators, and offer our sympathies to the victims and their families."

AMC Deplores The Attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon

(WASHINGTON, DC - 9/11/2001) The American Muslim Council (AMC) strongly condemns this morning's plane attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon and expresses deep sorrow for Americans that were injured and killed. AMC sends out its condolence to all victims of this cowardly terrorist attack. There is no cause that justifies this type of an immoral and inhumane act that has affected so many innocent American lives. AMC supports all efforts of the investigation in order to track down the people responsible for this tragic act of terrorism.

The American Muslim Political Coordination Council (AMPCC) issued a statement which reads:
"American Muslims utterly condemn what are apparently vicious and cowardly acts of terrorism against innocent civilians. We join with all Americans in calling for the swift apprehension and punishment of the perpetrators. No Political cause could ever be assisted by such immoral acts."

The AMPCC consists of AMC, Council on American-Islamic Relations, American Muslim Alliance and Muslim Public Affairs Council.

Donate Blood To Help The Innocent Victims

(WASHINGTON, DC - 9/11/2001) The American Muslim Council calls upon the members of the Muslim community to come together at this tragic time where so many of our fellow Americans have been killed and injured. This American tragedy affects all of us and we should do whatever we can do help save lives of the injured victims. AMC encourages Islamic Centers to start blood drive campaigns and encourages everyone to visit hospitals and medical centers in the capitol and New York City to donate much needed blood to those who are required to receive immediate medical assistance.

AMC Seeks Assistance From Law Enforcement Agencies To Protect All Americans

The American Muslim Council (AMC) is urging all Muslims to come together in this time of tragedy. AMC today condemned the cowardly terrorist attacks in New York City and Washington and expressed its condolences to the families of innocent people killed. This horrific violent incident disturbs American Muslims.

AMC wants all law enforcement officials to be cognizant of the fact that at times like these, there are some acts of violence perpetrated against Islamic Centers and Muslims of our communities. We are confident that authorities will protect all men, women and children. We hope to prevent the acts of violence directed towards Muslims and Islamic Centers. American Muslims experienced violent attacks and verbal harassment in the aftermath of the Oklahoma City Bombing when our fellow citizens rushed to judgment about the perpetrators of the crime. We urge our fellow Americans not to be quick to stereotype Muslims, who are also suffering at this traumatic time. We, like all Americans, want to feel secure and want to see the perpetrators brought to justice. Enough innocent lives have been killed today.

American Muslims for Jerusalem Condemns the Terrorist Attacks

Joining the Muslim community around the country, the Washington based American Muslims for Jerusalem (AMJ) is appalled and strongly condemns the terrorist attacks in New York, Washington, and other parts of the country. AMJ sends out its deepest condolences to the families of the victims of these cowardly attacks.

As Muslims we utterly deplore these heinous and barbaric acts and hope for the quick apprehension and swift applications of justice. We also urge the media to exercise restraint, act responsibly when reporting, and not rush to judgment. Until the perpetrators are identified and brought to justice, all media reports should be accurate, restraint, and sensitive.

AMJ calls on Muslims nationwide to offer every assistance they can to help the victims of today's terrorist attacks in New York and Washington, D.C. Muslims in local communities should take the following IMMEDIATE ACTIONS:

* Muslim medical professionals are asked to go to the scenes of the attacks to offer aid and comfort to the victims.
* Muslim relief agencies should contact their counterparts to offer support in the recovery efforts.
* Individual Muslims should donate blood by contacting the local office of the Red Cross. (Call 1-800-GIVE-LIFE.) They should also send donations to those relief agencies that are on the scene of the attacks.

My case is not to shy away from the fact that Islam do have a very big problem on our hands. It's going to take good Muslims along with other good people of the world to conquer this infection of terror that plagues Islam and the rest of the civilized world. My thoughts.


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