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Ahmadzafire>Hassan is a fanatic sleeper

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Submitted by Lady (Indonesia), Nov 26, 2009 at 03:16

Mr Ahmadzafire, I do understand what you saying. That the system of US to detect who is fanatic and who Is not probably still weak. But I guess it is not weak because it can not detect fanatics indiviaduals to separate them from the moderate and tolerant muslims, but it is weak because the US law allow individuals to apply individual freedom in any case. There is no different to treat an individual treat and a group threat, also there is no different to treat a robbery killer and the fanatic muslim who has plan to plant a bomb somewhere in the city. They all have individual freedom and act base on individual punishment. The US system never dare to punish a group as a threat, I guess because too scare to be labeleed as racist and supressive. The US system never dare to say "War againts Fanatic MUSLIM", because it is a group which still in a grey area. Once the US givernment mention it, it means will also against the moderate muslims.

I guess it is a big chalange for US government to separate non fanatic and tolerant muslims from a big greay area, where their community still mix up in the same pot. I believe, moderate muslims with their separate community from fanatics, will have chance to embrace peace through doing critical thinking toward their fanatics fellow. In other words, this is the job of moderate muslims to separate themself, to make their own identity, separate from fanatic one. Then this moderate muslims must brave enough to change the interpretation of the Quran, different with the way of most clerics did. Particularly interpretation on "the spread islam religion and behavior toward non muslims". This moderate muslim must encourage their own community to be tolerant toward non muslim issue in the muslim world (Middle East, etc). Moderate muslim must brave enough to speak loudly, to identify themselves as a group of muslims who against those fanatic (This one we see very rare to happen). If what we called moderate and tolerant muslims can not do it, then soon or after they are no different with those fanatics.

The key problem here is, those fanatics hold on to the Quran words, which interprete bluntly by those clerical system. Clerics is human, they are not God to speak about what God wants. Quran is a book, which we can be manipulated by humans. Remember Quran or Bible or wedha or any other religions holy books is only a book with script in it. What the maning of HOLLINESS of a holy book, if it can destroy human being peace?

I am not a historian, but as far as I knew, in the past in christianity, there was a dark age, when on behalf of religion, the churches community gave orders to murder and burnt the intelectuals who has critical thinking toward the christian religion. It was like pandemic disease. But now, in 21 century, we can not find it anymore. If it still exist, it is like an incident disease, not even as endemic. The vast chrstian community will condem them and punish them. So the dark age will never happen again.

My question is, WHEN the moderate muslim community indentify themself to be a group to follow the christian past path? To chalange loudly the pandemic problems within their community? To stop the fanatics to believe that the non muslim must be conguered by violent? To chalange fanatic clerical system who ordered murder of non muslims including moderate muslim in much louder voice? When will it happen? If it happen, maybe the tension among muslims community itself (fanatic Shia, Sunny, Wahabi and non fanatics) will be easy, and in the end, the tension and hidden war between grey area of muslim community and non muslim will vanish.

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