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Mysticism and Menace

Reader comment on item: The Mystical Menace of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
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Submitted by g mcme (Canada), Oct 30, 2006 at 02:27

Dear K.H. Ahmed

One has to feel a little sorry for those who cannot see the forest for all the trees. This dialogue on mysticism only obscures the objective if you are looking for a solution to the problem. You have to look to the source of the problem. And as I see it the problem lies at the heart of Islamic Religion - it is in the holy book your Imams preach from. It is an intolerant religion.

You say not from the studied perspective of an educated and intelligent human. How many of your arguments would not be understood by a great many Muslims let alone accepted? What can be done to change throughout Islam the teachings that lead to confrontation, intolerance and violence? How can you make it understood that Government and Religion really make for terrible matches. Its like trying to mate reason and logic to emotions. One belies the other and until you understand that politics and religion are just as incongruous you will continue to live in your own conundrum dealing with only pieces of the problem.

You can look as close as you want to what makes plants grow and what kills them. You ask a simple man what makes it grow and he will tell you - start with a seed, add dirt, water and warmth and it grows. Ask an agricultural specialist and you get a thousand page book that boils down to the same thing but the truth is hidden in the dialogue. Canadian eh!! I guess eh! Ahmed you didn't get it.

So Mr. Ahmed, assuming you are male for no particular reason, your intelligence is confusing you. You are saying 'wait while we take you over' and then we will change. You do not see that all of this dialogue of chaff is just to obscure the obvious. When the Jews went from Egypt to the Holy Land they wandered in the desert for 40 years. Then found this land - it does not say they conquered it - and settled there. It seems to me it was probably mostly uninhabited because there is no indication they invaded. The Jews were taken from the land and later allowed to return. So how is it that after the Jews made it a prosperous place that the Palistinians suddenly own it? Because they over-ran it and built a mosque? All Chaff!

The point is that if the Palistinians could have accepted a democratic society enough to live in it I doubt I would be writing this today. But the Sharia law of the Koran must be tearing the hearts out of its people who cannot come to terms with the rule of Law of Democratic Societies. The Koran does not teach that all human beings are created equal and have equal rights before the law. Do you stone guys who rape women? That's not democracy but it would be equality.

I could care less about what diety these people talk to as long as there is some semblance of reason in their actions when they get off their 'holy' phone. You Muslims need to reel in your 'holy' men and get them to stop preaching hatred - perhaps issue your own 'fatwa' to have them stoned right after services if they preach hatred against any one. Perhaps after a few stonings they will get the message that the rest of you are serious about living in peace without shit disturbers. What kind of a 'god' can one believe in that would condone such barbaric actions.

How long ago did the Crusades end? What progress has Islam made since then? And you claim to have a longer and greater heritage! Pity your religion has kept your peoples so barbaric that at the present day the rest of the world holds it's breath waiting for the next show of your generosity and kindness to peoples of other faiths in countries or territories where you hold sway. Face it - the face of Islam has not changed for millenia and you would have us think that all of a sudden it is going to become more benevolent without being forced to, from either within or without. What makes you think that the rest of the world can accept your willingness to live peaceably in democratic countries without an overhaul of the things you teach that lead to this type of uncertainty and unrest?

Where am I coming from? I want to see Islam have it's own reformation and this will only come if you are prepared to first of all remove the imams from positions of political power and turn their hearts instead to what is good in mankind. Then let the hearts of the people decide their government. But this is something that is going to have to start at the top and I think those at the top want the power rather than any promises from a diety. Show me an imam who lives and walks as the poorest of his country and I would be inclined to stop and listen to him.

The sword in your 'holy' book is being subverted for political power instead of winning the hearts and minds of your peoples. Seems your imams are catagorically a bunch of sociopaths or psychopaths who are bent on maintaining their position of power within their Shira circles. They are trying all kinds of stuff to try to get inroads into Western society in saying you need to accommodate us. We DO NOT need to accommodate anyone who wants to impose their practices and beliefs on us. If you cannot adapt to the Rule of Law then I suggest you need to make other arrangements for some place to live that is more ameniable. I am talking here generally about Muslims. People who know they cannot accept these standards should not come here in the first place. But the prospects of a good living can often silence a conscience till one feels well fed.

As for biting the hand that feed them you need only look to how much aid was poured into Muslim countries to help keep them afloat. And you say we are raping them of their oil. Perhaps if we were not giving away so much of what we produce we would not need all that extra oil. Seems to me it probably balances out. How destitute would these nations be if we did not need their oil?

Ahmed - you need to take a good hard look at your beliefs and see if there is a way that you could explain your reasons for believing as you do to some poor poppy farmer from Afganistan. Now there is a challenge for you to put your intelligence to work on and perhaps your education can finally be put to work for the good of the world.

g mcme

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