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Time to leave the past and focus on the future, Ianus

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Submitted by Stas (United States), Oct 26, 2012 at 17:04

Ianus wrote:

First, Turkey is merely an American proxy, a US client state or a useful thug trained and supplied with the latest US arms who will start no real brawl without explicit guarantees and guiding from Washington.

If you are correct that Turkey is a proxy of the US (which I vehemently disagree with), then you make the argument that I am making- that the fight becomes between the US and Russia/Iran.

Any weakening of Syria and Iran means politically and geostrategically just strengthening of sunnism and in particular of wahhabism or of the US-sunni axis ( Saudi and Qatari wahhabism+al-Qaeda+Moslem Brotherhood +the US overlord), the unholy coalition we know so well from Libya.

Yes, I agree with this, and what is the long term effect of weakening Shia and strengthening Sunni? It matters not what role the US plays in this aged fight between Shia and Sunni. I believe that the mutual hatred and resentment far outweighs any hope of unification against the West, a good thing for us. You seem to have the need to constantly point out US complicity in the creation of this problem, but whether that is completely true or not (of course there are elements of truth), I fail to see where you take it from there. It is time to move on Ianus, and not repeat the incessant diatribe against America. You share the concern about the future with Islamists and the political ramifications, so address that. It is more important than assigning blame to the past.

Really? You don't know who organized chaos (through al-Qaeda and the Moslem Brotherhood ) in Libya to kick out the Chinese oil companies and grab the Libyan oil and gold?

I am aware of some dealings with Amb Stevens and the jihadists with arms to Syria, but not of open cooperation between terror groups and US. Again I think you are exaggerating and not providing any proof. Even if it were true, so what?

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