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Submitted by true believer (India), Apr 21, 2006 at 06:19

Mohammed,

This was how islam spread itself, terrorising and crushing the will of the conquered people. It was the same ancient barbaric formula. Attack and subdue them, kill their men, rape their women and keep for yourself anything that is useful including women and children. It is high time for you to get "civilized" and understand that this ancient formula won't work in the modern world. You should stop dreaming about "destroying" Israel or you won't be left with any suicide bombers to blow themselves up. I will tell you some things from my own experiences. Muslims only seem understand this language of violence and hate.

I saw this ancient barbaric formula applied against the moslems in India in the recent past. In India there is a state called Gujarat. Some years back muslims in this state burnt a train containing hindus in a place called Godhra. Over a hundred people including women and children were burnt alive. No body knows the real reason why, but muslims were encouraged by their religious leaders to do so. The backlash that followed was really brutal. Villages after villages of moslems were wiped off. Moslem women , one even eight months pregnant were raped and killed. Moslem children were forced to drink gasolene and were burnt afterwards. Babies were dashed to death on stones.The muslim death toll went to thousands.It was a genocide and the local state government dominated by right wing Hindu Party, the BJP including the state police forces. We used to feel like vomiting on reading the gory details. Apart for a failed terrorist attack and a few crude bomb explosions the muslims did not dare to retaliate. Why ?, because they knew that the enemy spoke the same language , albeit in a much harsher tone. And most important, THEIR WILL WAS TOTALLY CRUSHED. Gujarat is incidentally the birth place of Mahatma Gandhi who is the apostle of peace and non-violence in India. This state also shares its border with Pakistan, the arch enemy of predominantly Hindu India. I am not exaggerating anything. These things did happen. Personally I don't endorse such tactics and that is why I call it ancient and barbaric, but this is just for your information that it is very much possible to crush the will of muslims also.After all you are only human even though you may like to believe that you are a race of super men

Contrast this with what happened in US after 9/11 or in UK after the Metro rail bombings . How many muslims were raped or killed or burnt alive. Did the government start behaving like the nazis ? Israel could have exterminated the palestinians a long time back but chose not to do so even after defeating all her Arab neighbours in one shot. You should respect this tolerance and patience in others even if they don't share your faith instead of saying "it can be true if the opponents are Christians". It is simply that the west has not exhausted its patience that you are allowed to do things in Europe which you won't dare to do in your own moslem countries. And as usual you mistake it to be a sign of Christian weakness or islamic strength and power and gloat instead of feeling embarassed at such uncivilized behavior. Just remember what happened on the Sydney beach last year when your lebanese brothers pushed local Australians beyond limits. If you don't change, it will happen everywhere.

-Francis
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