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Reader comment on item: L'Institut d'Égypte – In Memoriam
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Submitted by BB King (United States), Jan 7, 2012 at 00:39

Ianus wrote:

<"Do you know what country was the first to diplomatically recognize Saudi Arabia? The USSR ! Islam has had in its history so many and so improbable defenders, apologists and fellow travelers that I am not surprised at all that an (alleged?) atheist like you moves boldly to the front row to whitewash and defend it.">

Ianus, it seems you suffer from convenient amnesia. To refresh your memory you were an apologist for the USSR and Stalin, even going as far as to absolve both of their crimes in the invasion of Poland alongside Hitler and the Katyn Massacre. Take a look for yourself:

http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/191347

So I am sure you can absolve the USSR of this tiny transgression as well. Everyone now knows you absolved them of other horrendous crimes.

<"I take back the possessive pronoun "your" but still I think that by your defensive action on behalf of Islam you have more to do with it than you realize. I am afraid though that Moslems will "reward" your spirited defense of it one day just as the Saudis rewarded the Soviet atheists for championing ibn Saud's kingdom internationally.">

I am afraid for Poles the truth is in reverse:

"In particular, the Muslim Tatar community of Poland has been recognised for producing Polish nationalist heroes since its arrival in the 14th century. Just in November, a monument to Poland's Tatar population was unveiled by President Bronislaw Komorowski. "Tatars shed their blood in all national independence uprisings," Mr Komorowski said. "Their blood seeped into the foundations of the reborn Polish Republic.""

http://ispu.org/GetArticles/48/1989/Publications.aspx

It seems like your government is rewarding Muslims, Ianus. Oh, Oh.

<"I wouldn't refer therefore to the webpage as "the source" because strictly speaking there are no sources there worth the name (i.e. original evidence, documents etc.), but a few arbitrarily collected books from which arbitrary quotes were made to prove a definite preconceived and politically correct point of view and which can't hold against Aristotle's law of non-contradiction.">

If you feel that way then you should have no problem refuting every sentence uttered in the site I gave you. Yet you didn't even refute one sentence.

<"It's a violent dogma spread and imposed by terror and kept alive by deceitful lies and propaganda">

So according to you Islam never ever in its history spread through missionary activities, is that what you're asserting?

<"Does your "source" - which looks like pasted verbatim from a CAIR or another Islamic website - address the issue? Of course,it doesn't as , ironically enough, Islamic sites don't either. So maybe your Islamizing atheists are waiting for the Moslems to invent a good lie to paste it unto their own site and to add it to the explanation that explains nothing">

This tells me you did not thoroughly browse the site. If you had you would've noticed that the site links to Faith Freedom, a site run by Ali Sina who is a Muslim apostate and fierce critic of Islam. Furthermore, here is an article on the same site criticizing Islam http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/islam1.html

And here: http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/islam2.html

So you see Ianus this site has no inspiration from CAIR.

Oh and thank you for citing (F. Gregrovius, History of the city of Athens in the Middle Ages, Dresden 1927 , p.556 ) something I have no immediate access to. Care to link us your proof?

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