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Victims of Islam and of Arabian imperialism

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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Aug 28, 2014 at 17:36

Our dear Moin whose Hindu ancestors were brutalized by the Muslim invaders of India and now he is no more than another follower of the religion whose followers killed and enslaved and raped millions of his ancestors! But does our dear Moin al-tablighee care? Not in the least

Muslim history is NOT Islam per se.

Really? so let me see you are saying that Ibn Ishaq and al-Waqidi and al-Tabari are all liars? Then you agree with us kuffar that all of early Islam is bogus and Muhammad did not exist thank you our dear Moin

Unlike Christianity or Hinduism, it is possible to be critical of Muslim history and behaviour from Islamic perspective.

And?

The epicentre of Christianity is Jesus -

So? and I can also say that the epicentre of the religion of the Arabs only is a man whose name is Quthm Ibn Abd Allat aka Abul Qasim aka Muhammad aka Ahmad after all even your Allah and his angels PRAY TO HIM as in Allah wa malaikatuhu yusaloon ala al-Nabi

What a disaster Allah prays to Muhammad

which (unfortunately) is a mysteria.

And you took the words out of my mouth this man so called prophet of Allah we do not know even if he existed right our dear Moin?

Oh you do not believe me? If he indeed existed then how come the extant literary sources from the 7th century are silent about Muhammad the Arabian warlord and caravan raider you tell us

On the other hand, the epicentre of Islam is Quran -

A book that is confused and confusing that does not make sense and a book that is violent and is full of mistakes in spelling of perfect Arabic words and poor grammar and many foreign words and still the author tells us it is a book written in Arabic so who is the liar here our dear Moin the lost tablighee? and what god in same mind would call himself Khayro al-Makereen or the best of those that deceive why would this Allah be a deceiver and why the lies and cheating and why would your Allah utter the vile verse the likes of ayat al-sayf or Q9:5 or the sword verse and this vile verse was responsible for the murder of millions of your Hindu ancestors by the Muslim invaders of India

You see our dear Moin I can go on and on but you tell me how come you did not seem to know what I just wrote? Could it be because you are and you must pardon me ignorant or could be because you knew and were hoping that we kuffar do not know so which one is it our dear Moin the lost tablighee?

which can equip us with guidelines to critically judge matters, including judging the Muslim history - even Muslim theological historical developments.

Really? then how can you explain the cochamamie doctrine of al-Naskh wa al-Mansukh? and why does al-Tabari tell us very often about wa ikhtalafa ahl al-Ta'weel which means that early Muslims could not even agree about what the Qur'an is saying and you who knows no Arabic think that you know what the Qur'an says. Do you see why you are making a fool of yourself?

Mind it, there are two separate adjectives available to us - Muslim and Islamic. But in Christianiy there is only one - Christian.

Says who?

The bottom line

What bottom line? Surprise me for a change

This is the answer: a powerful Islamic critique of Muslim history and behaviour is possible. Moderate, balanced and thinking Muslims must stand up to do this castigating crtitique. This is the only way to eliminate the bad elements and fanatics among us. No one is denying that bad things did not happen in Muslim history. But no sir, pointing finger at Islam because some Arabs go out elsewhere for sex tours is simply wrong.

The Arabs also regard your likes as no more than a maskeen men el-hind which is racist and not very nice. You see our dear Moin the Qur'an says that islam is the religion of the Hijazi Arabs only leave Islam and be free again

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