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The Quranic disaster 20:63 and this time Ibn Kathir

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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Nov 23, 2013 at 09:55

Now let us read what Ibn Kathir tells us about the Quranic disaster Q20:63

قَالُوا إِنْ هَذَانِ لَسَاحِرَانِ " وَهَذِهِ لُغَة لِبَعْضِ الْعَرَب جَاءَتْ هَذِهِ الْقِرَاءَة عَلَى إِعْرَابهَا وَمِنْهُمْ مَنْ قَرَأَ إِنَّ هَذَيْنِ لَسَاحِرَانِ وَهَذِهِ اللُّغَة الْمَشْهُورَة وَقَدْ تَوَسَّعَ النُّحَاة فِي الْجَوَاب عَنْ الْقِرَاءَة الْأُولَى بِمَا لَيْسَ هَذَا مَوْضِعه وَالْغَرَض أَنَّ السَّحَرَة قَالُوا فِيمَا بَيْنهمْ : تَعْلَمُونَ أَنَّ هَذَا الرَّجُل وَأَخَاهُ - يَعْنُونَ مُوسَى وَهَارُون - سَاحِرَانِ عَالِمَانِ خَبِيرَانِ بِصِنَاعَةِ السِّحْر يُرِيدَانِ فِي هَذَا الْيَوْم أَنْ يَغْلِبَاكُمْ وَقَوْمكُمْ وَيَسْتَوْلِيَا عَلَى النَّاس وَتَتْبَعهُمَا الْعَامَّة وَيُقَاتِلَا فِرْعَوْن وَجُنُوده فَيُنْصَرَا عَلَيْهِ وَيُخْرِجَاكُمْ مِنْ أَرْضكُمْ وَقَوْله " وَيَذْهَبَا بِطَرِيقَتِكُمْ الْمُثْلَى " أَيْ وَيَسْتَبِدَّا بِهَذِهِ الطَّرِيقَة وَهِيَ السِّحْر فَإِنَّهُمْ كَانُوا مُعَظَّمِينَ بِسَبَبِهَا لَهُمْ أَمْوَال وَأَرْزَاق عَلَيْهَا يَقُولُونَ إِذَا غَلَبَ هَذَانِ أَهْلَكَاكُمْ وَأَخْرَجَاكُمْ مِنْ الْأَرْض وَتَفَرَّدَا بِذَلِكَ وَتَمَحَّضَتْ لَهُمَا الرِّيَاسَة بِهَا دُونكُمْ وَقَدْ تَقَدَّمَ فِي حَدِيث الْفُتُون أَنَّ اِبْن عَبَّاس قَالَ فِي قَوْله " وَيَذْهَبَا بِطَرِيقَتِكُمْ الْمُثْلَى " يَعْنِي مُلْكهمْ الَّذِي هُمْ فِيهِ وَالْعَيْش وَقَالَ اِبْن أَبِي حَاتِم حَدَّثَنَا أَبِي حَدَّثَنَا نُعَيْم بْن حَمَّاد حَدَّثَنَا هُشَيْم عَنْ عَبْد الرَّحْمَن بْن إِسْحَاق سَمِعَ الشَّعْبِيّ يُحَدِّث عَنْ عَلِيّ فِي قَوْله وَيَذْهَبَا بِطَرِيقَتِكُمْ الْمُثْلَى قَالَ يَصْرِفَانِ وُجُوه النَّاس إِلَيْهِمَا وَقَالَ مُجَاهِد وَيَذْهَبَا بِطَرِيقَتِكُمْ الْمُثْلَى قَالَ أُولُو الشَّرَف وَالْعَقْل وَالْأَسْنَان. وَقَالَ أَبُو صَالِح بِطَرِيقَتِكُمْ الْمُثْلَى أَشْرَافكُمْ وَسَرَوَاتكُمْ وَقَالَ عِكْرِمَة بِخَيْرِكُمْ وَقَالَ قَتَادَة وَطَرِيقَتهمْ الْمُثْلَى يَوْمئِذٍ بَنُو إِسْرَائِيل وَكَانُوا أَكْثَر الْقَوْم عَدَدًا وَأَمْوَالًا فَقَالَ عَدُوّ اللَّه يُرِيدَانِ أَنْ يَذْهَبَا بِهَا لِأَنْفُسِهِمَا وَقَالَ عَبْد الرَّحْمَن بْن زَيْد بِطَرِيقَتِكُمْ الْمُثْلَى بِاَلَّذِي أَنْتُمْ عَلَيْهِ .

This is his tafseer but let us read the first few lines where he really deals with this disater

قَالُوا إِنْ هَذَانِ لَسَاحِرَانِ " وَهَذِهِ لُغَة لِبَعْضِ الْعَرَب جَاءَتْ هَذِهِ الْقِرَاءَة عَلَى إِعْرَابهَا وَمِنْهُمْ مَنْ قَرَأَ إِنَّ هَذَيْنِ لَسَاحِرَانِ وَهَذِهِ اللُّغَة الْمَشْهُورَة وَقَدْ تَوَسَّعَ النُّحَاة فِي الْجَوَاب عَنْ الْقِرَاءَة الْأُولَى بِمَا لَيْسَ هَذَا مَوْضِعه

Or In Hadhani Lasahirani and this is the language of some Arabs and this is how this reading came about and some of them read it as inna hadhayni lasahirani and this is the famous reading and the grammarians expanded (the grammatical analysis) on it of the first reading and this is not an issue now

What a disaster he is really saying that

1. The language of the Qur'an in this case is the poor grammar of some Arabs which means that the Qur'an is not the words of Allah but the poor Arabic of some ignorant Arabs!

2. It also means that he is admitting that in hadhan lasahiran is a mistake and the correct grammar of inna hadhan lasahiran but Muslims sould write is as in hadhan lasahiran and vocalize it as inna hadhyni lasahirani! What a disaster he is asking Muslims to be liars and play pretend

3. But here is the ultimate disaster he is not even sure how to EDIT it and is the ان it is إِنْ on In or is it إِنَّ or Inna which means that we really do not know what the Qur'an is really saying it also means that the Quranic is an edited and corrupted book

It is your sources and in this case Ibn Kathir that is really exposing this Quranic disaster

Oh next? It will be al-Qurtibi

Submitting....

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